What would the real cost of change run?

[noshame]

What would it cost to have a offense who controls the ball and gives the defense a rest? What would it cost to score enough points to allow blitzing and your front 4 to abandon the run and full on rush the passer? It's amazing what a low cost fix a good offense becomes.
May I say, if either team had a QB Sunday, they would have won, despite the defense.

 

[DallasDomination]

Denver? Seriously?



Pats and the Packers have average Olines, at best. Patriots line is a giant patch job. Please. Name more.

Destroyed Pittsburgh? Wrong. You didn't see the game. Go check out the final score.




Yah, I totally disrespected the defenses.

My post was 'IMO' and commenting on the nuances of the game. It's what I saw.

Living in CO I get the "Pleasure" of seeing all the Denver games.

The defense hadn't looked that good, against a mobile QB, all season.

Cam helped that.











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You said that those defenses were a semi anomaly because of the Qb play. Which I took as those defenses weren't as good as advertised which I disagree with. You can find kinks in the armor all day but when you sit back and look what both those teams did there really isn't much negative you can take away. By the way I live in Denver too I've watched every single game. That defense is not a semi- anomaly by any means.

 

[TX Cowboy]

Stephen as owner and the rest of his nosy family butting out then we can get a GM/real head coach
to start the process of getting back to glory

 

[perrykemp]

Pats and the Packers have average Olines, at best. Patriots line is a giant patch job. Please. Name more.

Destroyed Pittsburgh? Wrong. You didn't see the game. Go check out the final score.

Denver's defense held Aaron Rodgers to 77 yards passing -- the fewest in his entire career if you remove games he was injured from the equation.

Rodgers has done just fine for much of his career with sub-standard OLs.

I know it's only one datapoint, however, from a statistical perspective it's obvious that the then reigning NFL MVP ran into an absolute buzz-saw of a defense.

 

[CCBoy]

Stephen as owner and the rest of his nosy family butting out then we can get a GM/real head coach
to start the process of getting back to glory

On the contrary, the Jones family is very knowledgeable about the football side of things. They are formidable on NFL committees as well as running the business.

 

[Nightman]

Denver's defense held Aaron Rodgers to 77 yards passing -- the fewest in his entire career if you remove games he was injured from the equation.

Rodgers has done just fine for much of his career with sub-standard OLs.

I know it's only one datapoint, however, from a statistical perspective it's obvious that the then reigning NFL MVP ran into an absolute buzz-saw of a defense.

DEN can get consistent pressure from their Front 4. That is not a new secret scheme. Every team wants that. Wade is a great DC but having Von Miler, DWare, Wolfe and Jackson really helped. It makes the rest of the D that much easier to play.

*- I know they blitzed Cam more than usual but CAR max protects a lot. They still got the most pressure when they brought 4.

 

[gmoney112]

It's going to cost a lot of we want to bring this defense up to speed this year.

But, that's the price you pay if you want a top defense. Seattle is one of the few teams i can remember that had a dominant defense and didn't spend in FA, because they had a lot of high picks over several years and drafted well.

I'm not sure exactly how much cap room we'll have to work with, but allocating 25 mill towards defensive acquisitions and maybe picking up a Lamar Miller so we can concentrate on QB+defense in the draft, would go a long way.

Realistically, we need 4-5 guys that can come in and play. I think two rookies can be solid contributors. 3 talented guys in FA, 2 solid draft picks would be great, and reasonable.

 

[TX Cowboy]

On the contrary, the Jones family is very knowledgeable about the football side of things. They are formidable on NFL committees as well as running the business.

20 years absent from title contention tells me otherwise

 

[Bleu Star]

You asked for the "real cost of a change" and I gave you my opinion

Signing big salary FA is not going to bring "real change"

Don't ask a question you don't want answered

 

[CCBoy]

20 years absent from title contention tells me otherwise

One question, do you watch the Cowboys on T.V. or go to any of the live games?

 

[iceberg]

So all the Cowboys need is a cornerback like Josh Norman, linebackers like Luke Kuechly and Thomas Davis, pass-rushers like Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware and a combination pass-rusher/run-stopper like Derek Wolfe.

So, just talking contract costs. Just what would signing that group cost the Cowboys for this season?

How much could be acquired via a single draft as well? One or two draft picks worth?

i think we need to focus on what works and work to get the most out of our players abilities and we'd find such players. i think our coaching staff has a "system" and tries to make people play to a system vs. build a system to fit their players. in truth they likely blend the 2 but i don't think they do it well. garrett has never really shown to be good at adjustments from his plan whether it be in a game, season or career. he 'stays the course' and while good at times, it's not a very flexible system.

so bring in all the players you want and pay them all the money you want and lets say it happens. let's just dive so far into fantasy land there simply is no turning back and we must assume that contracts aside we get these players, some of them AGAIN, back into the fold.

then what? is that all we need? the right players we see succeed on OTHER teams so that means they would do the same on OUR team? was von miller ever *von miller* BEFORE the superbowl and that run? dunno to be honest. but i know to go look. now - again, would having all those players suddenly make our defense the denver defense of last year *only*? or would they be asked to play a system and the results...different? can't say better or worse cause you simply don't know til you try but my thoughts based on what i've seen would be more of the same.

"better players" + "same results" = even more angry fans.

so cost aside - would it really change anything here if we found some way to make all those players come alive right here in dallas? or would our staff in place try to make it something it's not?

doesn't matter what pieces to the puzzle you have if you've not yet shown you know how to put it together.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

i think we need to focus on what works and work to get the most out of our players abilities and we'd find such players. i think our coaching staff has a "system" and tries to make people play to a system vs. build a system to fit their players. in truth they likely blend the 2 but i don't think they do it well. garrett has never really shown to be good at adjustments from his plan whether it be in a game, season or career. he 'stays the course' and while good at times, it's not a very flexible system.

so bring in all the players you want and pay them all the money you want and lets say it happens. let's just dive so far into fantasy land there simply is no turning back and we must assume that contracts aside we get these players, some of them AGAIN, back into the fold.

then what? is that all we need? the right players we see succeed on OTHER teams so that means they would do the same on OUR team? was von miller ever *von miller* BEFORE the superbowl and that run? dunno to be honest. but i know to go look. now - again, would having all those players suddenly make our defense the denver defense of last year *only*? or would they be asked to play a system and the results...different? can't say better or worse cause you simply don't know til you try but my thoughts based on what i've seen would be more of the same.

"better players" + "same results" = even more angry fans.

so cost aside - would it really change anything here if we found some way to make all those players come alive right here in dallas? or would our staff in place try to make it something it's not?

doesn't matter what pieces to the puzzle you have if you've not yet shown you know how to put it together.

This.

In summary, if all you have is square pegs, stop trying to fit them into round holes. Alter the freaking holes.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

So all the Cowboys need is a cornerback like Josh Norman, linebackers like Luke Kuechly and Thomas Davis, pass-rushers like Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware and a combination pass-rusher/run-stopper like Derek Wolfe.


So, just talking contract costs. Just what would signing that group cost the Cowboys for this season?

How much could be acquired via a single draft as well? One or two draft picks worth?

"The real cost of change" in Dallas would be 3 years minimum. It isn't the personnel IMO.

 

[CCBoy]

i think we need to focus on what works and work to get the most out of our players abilities and we'd find such players. i think our coaching staff has a "system" and tries to make people play to a system vs. build a system to fit their players. in truth they likely blend the 2 but i don't think they do it well. garrett has never really shown to be good at adjustments from his plan whether it be in a game, season or career. he 'stays the course' and while good at times, it's not a very flexible system.

so bring in all the players you want and pay them all the money you want and lets say it happens. let's just dive so far into fantasy land there simply is no turning back and we must assume that contracts aside we get these players, some of them AGAIN, back into the fold.

then what? is that all we need? the right players we see succeed on OTHER teams so that means they would do the same on OUR team? was von miller ever *von miller* BEFORE the superbowl and that run? dunno to be honest. but i know to go look. now - again, would having all those players suddenly make our defense the denver defense of last year *only*? or would they be asked to play a system and the results...different? can't say better or worse cause you simply don't know til you try but my thoughts based on what i've seen would be more of the same.

"better players" + "same results" = even more angry fans.

so cost aside - would it really change anything here if we found some way to make all those players come alive right here in dallas? or would our staff in place try to make it something it's not?

doesn't matter what pieces to the puzzle you have if you've not yet shown you know how to put it together.

Ice, I'm thinking that this year's Cowboys will be very solid. We shall start to see in about 3 weeks, just how tough they will be starting week 1 in the upcoming season.

 

[TX Cowboy]

One question, do you watch the Cowboys on T.V. or go to any of the live games?

I used to go to games but now I stay at home and watch why do you ask?

 

[CCBoy]

I used to go to games but now I stay at home and watch why do you ask?

Oh, you are still a Cowboys fan...just disappointed.

Just a reminder that in 2014, Dallas was 8-0 in away games.

This past season, injuries really was the culprit.

 

[TX Cowboy]

Oh, you are still a Cowboys fan...just disappointed.

20 years has been nothing but disappointment

Just a reminder that in 2014, Dallas was 8-0 in away games.

Just to remind you, not winning a title in 20 years tells me that 8-0 on the road means nothing

This past season, injuries really was the culprit.

NO the idiot who runs the team (Jerruh) is the culprit because we fail to address the real needs plaquing us