2016 Oscars

Leo has grown into one of the best actors in the business today . I was glad to see him get an Oscar.

I think he does a good job as well so I don't get why people bag on him.

I will say this however...he sure does seem to do a lot of movies where his roles are almost always in the past.

I think the Wolves of Wallstreet might have been the last movie he has done that was even remotely close to modern date and that was set in the 80's.

Inception might have been the only movie I can recall where he did a future movie.

Not bagging on him for it...just seems kind of odd.

But I guess Johnny Depp is similar where he does so many movies where he is in heavy make up or costume.
 
Why does fame turn normal , but talented people into idiots? To make matters worse, they share their opinions as if the general public cares about their thoughts on politics and other subjects.

well they seem to. you kinda get an inflated sense of self-worth when doing what comes naturally to you pays millions.
 
I think he does a good job as well so I don't get why people bag on him.

I will say this however...he sure does seem to do a lot of movies where his roles are almost always in the past.

I think the Wolves of Wallstreet might have been the last movie he has done that was even remotely close to modern date and that was set in the 80's.

Inception might have been the only movie I can recall where he did a future movie.

Not bagging on him for it...just seems kind of odd.

But I guess Johnny Depp is similar where he does so many movies where he is in heavy make up or costume.

Ethan Hawke is the first name that comes to mind for me as a guy that does a lot of movies based in the future or alternate present, and the guy gets no love.

That said, Leo tends to work with the same sorts of directors and those guys love period pieces more than sci-fi. Sci-fi movies typically don't get a lot of love in general.
 
Man, Chris Rock will never stop playing the race card. I like to think that the lack of black nominees was because there was a lack of great performances by black actors this year.

What do I know though...

Let me just say. I like Chris Rock. A lot.
He seemed very confused and obligated to go on and on about race... Ending with black lives matter. He was like, "oops, I forgot"

I love me some James earl jones, Denzel, will smith, Don cheaply, etc movies. These guys just put on a show. Whether it's pure great acting or just "movie star" acting.... I LOVE IT.

With that said... I think this started last year when Selma didn't win. The actor in particular. Everyone was looking around like the referee just blew the call in the super bowl.


I think Will Smith should have been nominated. Maybe the weight of the topic made them shy away. I don't know.



Leo has grown into one of the best actors in the business today . I was glad to see him get an Oscar.

Leonardo should have several oscars.

Denzel should too
 
I am a fan of Chris Rock's stand-up and some of the movies he starred in. I didn't see concussion so I'm not sure how will smith performed in it, but to be fair the last few movies will smith has done have not been very good. This is coming from someone who is/was an avid will smith fan dating back to being a rapper and doing the fresh prince of bel air.

I agree with you about Denzel (training day, one of his greatest performances ever imo,) I'll pretty much any movie Denzel is in. I also like Terrance Howard, 50 cent (get rich or die trying) , and don Cheatle.

If you notice Denzel has not made a film since 2014 (I believe it was the equalizer?) and Howard is doing tv. Not sure about Cheatle, might be stuck playing war machine which is why he hasn't done anything else (traffic was awesome.)

Basically the top black actors that come to my mind are not or have not done film in a while, which is no surprise there were not any nominations although Michael b Jordan probably should have gotten one for creed. I also think MBJ will be great in the future.

Let me just say. I like Chris Rock. A lot.
He seemed very confused and obligated to go on and on about race... Ending with black lives matter. He was like, "oops, I forgot"

I love me some James earl jones, Denzel, will smith, Don cheaply, etc movies. These guys just put on a show. Whether it's pure great acting or just "movie star" acting.... I LOVE IT.

With that said... I think this started last year when Selma didn't win. The actor in particular. Everyone was looking around like the referee just blew the call in the super bowl.


I think Will Smith should have been nominated. Maybe the weight of the topic made them shy away. I don't know.





Leonardo should have several oscars.

Denzel should too
 
I am a fan of Chris Rock's stand-up and some of the movies he starred in. I didn't see concussion so I'm not sure how will smith performed in it, but to be fair the last few movies will smith has done have not been very good. This is coming from someone who is/was an avid will smith fan dating back to being a rapper and doing the fresh prince of bel air.

I agree with you about Denzel (training day, one of his greatest performances ever imo,) I'll pretty much any movie Denzel is in. I also like Terrance Howard, 50 cent (get rich or die trying) , and don Cheatle.

If you notice Denzel has not made a film since 2014 (I believe it was the equalizer?) and Howard is doing tv. Not sure about Cheatle, might be stuck playing war machine which is why he hasn't done anything else (traffic was awesome.)

Basically the top black actors that come to my mind are not or have not done film in a while, which is no surprise there were not any nominations although Michael b Jordan probably should have gotten one for creed. I also think MBJ will be great in the future.

Agreed. MBJ should have been nominated.

You have to watch 50 cents show called POWER... it's weird because it's not very good but it still has a hook.

Stallone, while he was not worthy of winning (over BOS actor) has been nominated twice for same role. First time ever?
I though his video clip should have been the locker room scene clip, Balboa: Everything I got has moved on and I’m here....

 
Ethan Hawke is the first name that comes to mind for me as a guy that does a lot of movies based in the future or alternate present, and the guy gets no love.

That said, Leo tends to work with the same sorts of directors and those guys love period pieces more than sci-fi. Sci-fi movies typically don't get a lot of love in general.

Speaking of which, have you seen Predestination? What a messed up movie.
 
http://www.pacificwarmuseum.org/your-visit/african-americans-in-wwii/
http://www.nationalww2museum.org/assets/pdfs/african-americans-in-world.pdf
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/aframerwar/
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/02/25/postal.battalion/

Force isn't necessary. There were more than enough World War II experiences, involving male and female African Americans, involved inside and outside actual combat. Film can relate history but only if it attempts to do so.

Maybe someone was listening to conversation, theres a new show called Underground that has the potential to be illuminating and highly entertaining, hope it delivers:

  • Underground centers on a group of slaves planning a daring 600-mile escape from a Georgia plantation. Along the way, they are aided by a secret abolitionist couple running a station on the Underground Railroad as they attempt to evade the people charged with bringing them back, dead or alive.
 
I don't watch the Oscars, or care about them, or the public response to the show itself... Its all promotional.......

When Films like this does not get a nod for best actor, or best picture... it justifies my feelings...

edit: and best director (carl fukunaga, shot and directed)

 
I don't watch the Oscars, or care about them, or the public response to the show itself... Its all promotional.......

When Films like this does not get a nod for best actor, or best picture... it justifies my feelings...

edit: and best director (carl fukunaga, shot and directed)



You mean because the director and production company that made a stupid decision and movie chains boycotted the theatrical release making it a VERY limited run in theaters? It became universally known as a Netflix film rather than theatrical.

I know what you're trying to point to, and since the "politics" is a no-no, I'll just say that's not the reason. Oscars are having issues in what they consider true qualifiers when it comes to Netflix movies, they have same with movies that go straight to demand: Remember Enemy a couple years ago?
 
You mean because the director and production company that made a stupid decision and movie chains boycotted the theatrical release making it a VERY limited run in theaters? It became universally known as a Netflix film rather than theatrical.

I know what you're trying to point to, and since the "politics" is a no-no, I'll just say that's not the reason. Oscars are having issues in what they consider true qualifiers when it comes to Netflix movies, they have same with movies that go straight to demand: Remember Enemy a couple years ago?

They didn't "boycott" the theaters... the limited run should not effect its ability to be nominated. Screeners are given out to those who vote for the Academy. The award show is not called the "amc/regal" awards. Whomever is on the committee to nominate films should have a responsibility to watch films that have limited runs, voting on the quality of the film, not the amount of audience it brings out. If that was the case "Room" would not have gotten nominated. "Room" was a film strengthen by word of mouth, receiving an increased theater run after... If anything the fact that "Beasts" was available through steaming simultaneously with its theater run should have opened it up to more eyes, not less.

You mention "true qualifiers", which is your definition, not the academy's, because the film qualified by every standard given.
If there is a bias towards films that Netflix funds, and sells to distributors that obtain limited theater access, that in itself is interesting because it means that there is a group to belong to amongst distributors to get recognized for such an achievements.

Again, my argument isn't with the Academy, because I don't care, nor do I give any power or credence to what they mark as high achievers. I was just saying my peace that they continue to justify MY reason for not caring year after year.

If you care, and think they make good decisions... so be it.....
 
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They didn't "boycott" the theaters... the limited run should not effect its ability to be nominated. Screeners are given out to those who vote for the Academy. The award show is not called the "amc/regal" awards. Whomever is on the committee to nominate films should have a responsibility to watch films that have limited runs, voting on the quality of the film, not the amount of audience it brings out. If that was the case "Room" would not have gotten nominated. "Room" was a film strengthen by word of mouth, receiving an increased theater run after... If anything the fact that "Beasts" was available through steaming simultaneously with its theater run should have opened it up to more eyes, not less.

You mention "true qualifiers", which is your definition, not the academy's, because the film qualified by every standard given.
If there is a bias towards films that Netflix funds, and sells to distributors that obtain limited theater access, that in itself is interesting because it means that there is a group to belong to amongst distributors to get recognized for such an achievements.

Again, my argument isn't with the Academy, because I don't care, nor do I give any power or credence to what they mark as high achievers. I was just saying my peace that they continue to justify MY reason for not caring year after year.

If you care, and think they make good decisions... so be it.....

They didn't "boycott" the theaters... the limited run should not effect its ability to be nominated

I didn't say THEY boycotted the theaters, I said major movie theater chains boycotted the film.

Screeners are given out to those who vote for the Academy

You don't know anything about the Academy, yet you are still attempting to comment on it. Educate yourself before spewing garbage, there is enough of that on this board lately.

http://netflixlife.com/2015/09/11/will-netflixs-beasts-of-no-nation-be-eligible-for-academy-awards/

http://www.tubefilter.com/2016/01/14/netflix-oscars-academy-awards-beasts-of-no-nation/

The boycott from major movie chains hurt it's chances. This makes your entire post irrelevant.
 
I didn't say THEY boycotted the theaters, I said major movie theater chains boycotted the film.



You don't know anything about the Academy, yet you are still attempting to comment on it. Educate yourself before spewing garbage, there is enough of that on this board lately.

http://netflixlife.com/2015/09/11/will-netflixs-beasts-of-no-nation-be-eligible-for-academy-awards/

http://www.tubefilter.com/2016/01/14/netflix-oscars-academy-awards-beasts-of-no-nation/

The boycott from major movie chains hurt it's chances. This makes your entire post irrelevant.

First, why so aggressive because I don't agree with the academy...(or you for that matter)?
Also I may be more familiar with the standards of the Academy than you think.
The reason I did mention AMC/Regal is because I was aware of this dispute.

(from the article you quoted):
Netflix picked up Beasts of No Nation in March. Almost immediately, several theater chains, including AMC and Regal, announced a boycott of the film, citing the fact that Netflix planned to release it online the same day as its arrival in theaters. The chains wanted Netflix to wait 90 days before making Beasts of No Nation available for its subscribers, as had been the general protocol with other films, but the streaming video platform ignored that request and opted to forge a new distribution model for its first feature film.

As I mentioned? Why Should this matter? Netflix obviously have a financial blueprint that is threatening to the normal blueprint of large chain theaters.... but should that affect voters?

Second, from the first article you quoted:

According to a report from Variety, Netflix will launch Beasts of No Nation in 29 movie theaters around the country on the same day that it will launch on Netflix, October 16, 2015.

How does that work for the Oscar nomination?

Well, it’s pretty simple. There is an exception in the Academy Awards rules that allows Beasts of No Nation to premiere in theaters on the same day it’s released on Netflix, according to Oscars.org:



"So, it appears that, yes, Netflix is taking all the proper steps and precautions to ensure Beasts of No Nation will be available for an Academy Award. Now, there is a harder question to answer: Will Beasts of No Nation be nominated for an Oscar?"

Again my opinion is my opinion...
No anger or distress.... I just think that "Beasts" deserved credit in a credible system... and if you don't, for whatever reason, that's fine.
 
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I didn't say THEY boycotted the theaters, I said major movie theater chains boycotted the film..

Btw, I didn't say you said this...

I said "Beasts" did not "Boycott" theaters.... meaning, they did not make this decision...
I'm familiar with the art houses in NY & Philadelphia and it played at both the Landmark in NY, & The Ritz in Philadelphia.
 
And For Your Edification:

Cary Fukunaga’sBeasts of No Nation will open theatrically in 19 markets served by Landmark Theatres on Oct. 16, the same day that it debuts on Netflix, which will make the film, starring Idris Elba, eligible for Oscar consideration.

Landmark Theatres operates 261 screens in 53 theatres across 26 markets, and Beasts, it was announced, will bow in 19 of those markets: New York, Los Angeles, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington DC, Atlanta, Indianapolis, Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Houston, Dallas, Denver, Seattle, San Francisco and San Diego.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/netflix-beasts-no-nation-play-812096
 
I didn't say THEY boycotted the theaters, I said major movie theater chains boycotted the film.



You don't know anything about the Academy, yet you are still attempting to comment on it. Educate yourself before spewing garbage, there is enough of that on this board lately.

http://netflixlife.com/2015/09/11/will-netflixs-beasts-of-no-nation-be-eligible-for-academy-awards/

http://www.tubefilter.com/2016/01/14/netflix-oscars-academy-awards-beasts-of-no-nation/

The boycott from major movie chains hurt it's chances. This makes your entire post irrelevant.

Soooo, bc it wasn't released as "mainstream" it isn't up for consideration? Glad we got that settled:rolleyes:
 

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