Myth of no open receivers

[Naruto]

Depends on down and distance.

This picture for example Butler really isn't open over the middle. Williams is still a bit early on the route. EE is open, but again...down and distance. Anticipation is still something that Dak needs work on, but I think we were too careful with him and if you're worried about blitzes and anticipation, then the play calling could be a little more creative to get guys more open.

YR

Tony Romo attempts this throw...and it gets picked off and has always gotten picked off throughout his career.

Some would rather have that then a 5 yard dunk and punt it seems like.

The real problem is it seems we ran that exact same set and plays a dozen times throughout the game. The Giants obviously have this schemed very well.

 

[LatinMind]

There were open receivers on virtually ever pass play. Some of them were painfully obvious. Some of them would have required tight windows. But this myth of no open receivers is nonsense. Honestly, I got tired of cutting and circling images.

throw to hot read as hesbout to be hit

clearly going to tw.

there is nobody open but the flat for minimal gain. u can see the under guys sitting on each route reading dak on the bottom routes. top guy it locked down

probably shouldve gone to witten here. but is throwing to top guy

dak throw that pass to witten thats a pick. defender looking right at the quarterback, hed jump that route

again flat open for minimal. would be nice to know the down

looks like a designed roll out, and looks like the play he went to beasley for the first.

witten is not open, surrounded. clear bad play by design. u have 3 wrs in the same area, but looks to be going to dez outside

lol this is the play u got owned with in that gif. clearly going to dez when jenkins comes back with witten beating his guy. knows he has safety help. dez stops not recognizing dak going to him. shouldve know when jenkins drops.

looks to be looking at open guy. safety clearly sees it

witten is open, but is this the final pass play? if it is wouldnt have made a difference.

lol this is clear evidence with all22 that some fans dont understand it. even by the photo u can see NY played single cover outside with the zone inside and a single high. if you paid for this theo u wasted money because u dont understand what ur seeing. or just posted these without listening to the commentary to try to prove a point which u clearly didnt.

 

[dfense]

It's hard to guage from photos without info like down and distance. I'm sure Dak missed some open guys, but for the most part Witten was doubled and Dez strugged to do much vs Jenkins. Plus open in photos isn't open on the field from ground level in real time

I'm sure those are doctored........bah ha ha

 

[Future]

He is NOT open for one very big reason ... he's not looking at the quarterback.

Quarterbacks throw the ball before a receiver is looking for it ALL THE TIME. If Dak throws to Dez and it hits him in the chest, then it's on Dez, but not looking for the ball yet doesn't mean a guy isn't open.

This argument keeps popping up in this thread, and it's a dumb one.

 

[dfense]

Tony Romo attempts this throw...and it gets picked off and has always gotten picked off throughout his career.

Some would rather have that then a 5 yard dunk and punt it seems like.

The real problem is it seems we ran that exact same set and plays a dozen times throughout the game. The Giants obviously have this schemed very well.

That is a dumb thing to say. The constant Romo throws picks argument doesn't statistically hold up, but the haters cling to. If you prefer the rookie, just say it. But bashing the veteran with completely incorrect statements makes you look foolish. Romo can anticipate and deliver. Dak waits to deliver to the open guy. I'm hoping Dak doesn't crap the bed this week. He's 2-24 on third down conversions last two games.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

Yeah, Theogt is really reaching. One play Vernon is in Dak's face as a free rusher and he has to get rid of the ball quick. Another play you circled, Dak made the read and threw to T-Will, but you don't mentione Williams running his route a yard short of the sticks, another play is on the final possession where Witten is open for only 5 yards, when we need to get the ball down the field. Dak played poorly, and has a lot to correct, but come on man. On the play Dez slipped, he has to win those slant routes, sure Witten was open, but that's a bang bang quick read play.

 

[NorthTexan95]

Quarterbacks throw the ball before a receiver is looking for it ALL THE TIME. If Dak throws to Dez and it hits him in the chest, then it's on Dez, but not looking for the ball yet doesn't mean a guy isn't open.

This argument keeps popping up in this thread, and it's a dumb one.

You have to look at the context of the play. Dak is immediately catching the snap and throwing because he has an unblocked blitzer in his face. Dak catches the snap, looks left, and throws to Williams who is the hot receiver. If he throws right and fires it to Dez it's gonna hit him in the back because his route isn't having him turn to catch until it's too late.

Context is key.

 

[Future]

You have to look at the context of the play. Dak is immediately catching the snap and throwing because he has an unblocked blitzer in his face. Dak catches the snap, looks left, and throws to Williams who is the hot receiver. If he throws right and fires it to Dez it's gonna hit him in the back because his route isn't having him turn to catch until it's too late.

Context is key.

Ok, then it's on Dez. The QB can't make decisions based on where a player is looking at the moment. If a guy is open, throw it.

No, context doesn't matter, because I'm not talking about one play in particular. I'm talking about the argument that a guy isn't open because he isn't looking for the football being LOL worthy.

 

[Zman5]

Nonsense. At the exact time Dunbar catches the ball, Beasley is already facing the QB. It would have taken longer for the ball to travel to Beasley.

Are you blind? Bease makes his cut about a second afrer ball is in the air.

 

[JS22]

Receivers are open when defenders are under them? I guess the board wanted a 5 int night from Prescott to make him even with Romo.

If your QB is unable to throw into tight windows you have a problem.

 

[theogt]

Are you blind? Bease makes his cut about a second afrer ball is in the air.

Just stop. Beasley was turned and looking before the ball even got to Dunbar. If you think a QB can't make a throw unless the WR is looking at him at the time the throw is released, I don't know what to tell you other than to just sit back and stop showing such blatant ignorance.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Its funny that all these Dak stans are defending him saying "b b but these screenshots dont show down and distance blah blah blah", but are ignoring how during the game, JG told Michele Tafoya that Dak "missed some easy ones"

 

[Clove]

If your QB is unable to throw into tight windows you have a problem.

If we are 2-11, I could get your point, but since we're the opposite, you have none.

 

[erod]

Tony Romo attempts this throw...and it gets picked off and has always gotten picked off throughout his career.

Some would rather have that then a 5 yard dunk and punt it seems like.

The real problem is it seems we ran that exact same set and plays a dozen times throughout the game. The Giants obviously have this schemed very well.

This is beyond pathetic. Learn some football and get back to us.

I wish folks had to pass a rudimentary football test before posting around here.

 

[Zman5]

Just stop. Beasley was turned and looking before the ball even got to Dunbar. If you think a QB can't make a throw unless the WR is looking at him at the time the throw is released, I don't know what to tell you other than to just sit back and stop showing such blatant ignorance.

LOl. Are you this clueless? Your pic proves my point that the ball has already left Daks hand way before Bease even starts to look back.

 

[erod]

If we are 2-11, I could get your point, but since we're the opposite, you have none.

Rex Grossman played in a Super Bowl. So did Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, David Woodley, Chris Chandler, and other stiffs.

The "what's our record" argument is shallow. If you insist on that, Romo is 16-5, so there's really no advantage to it.

 

[erod]

LOl. Are you this clueless? Your pic proves my point that the ball has already left Daks hand before Bease starts to look back.

Which is what happens on 80 percent of the passes thrown in the NFL.

 

[Zman5]

Which is what happens on 80 percent of the passes thrown in the NFL.

If you watch the video the ball would have hit Beasley in the back had Dak thrown the ball when he had to.

These BS still pics by theogt don't tell you the whole truth

 

[erod]

If you watch the video the ball would have hit Beasley in the back had Dak thrown the ball when he had to.

These BS still pics by theogt don't tell you the whole truth

One step is WIDE OPEN in the NFL. That's the biggest adjustment for college quarterbacks. That, and the disguised zone coverages that don't exist in college.

He's holding the ball for an eternity. He's lost. Defensive coordinators will figure you out, and they have with Dak. He'll have to adjust this offseason and moving forward, just like everybody else has to.

 

[theebs]

I finally got to take a look at the all 22 this morning. I have to say I can not blame the wr for this game, The giants had some excellent coverage sunday.