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@khiladi , myself, @romothesavior (iirc), @erod and others....

We said one thing.

When we run into a high scoring offense, and our defense doesnt hold...

Can Dak outscore the other team?

We said NO and were called haters, romo lovers, more worried about romo than the team, and a whole host of other things.

We went about OBJECTIVELY looking at the team, its performance capabilities, etc.

We merely said one thing, No, Dak wont be able to keep up.

Its not that any of us WANTED to be right. We all wish we werent. But we refused to be blinded by a team record, passing "stats", etc.

We didnt "hate" dak, we didnt put romo over dak. We objectively looked at each QB's body of work, the strengths they needed to possess to overcome running into a high powered offense, and concluded, that Dak probably didnt have what it would take. He didnt. Hopefully he will grow and will be able to do such and didnt already hit his ceiling. Time will tell.
 

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Tell me how Dak failed early in the game when GB was going up 21-3. That wasn't Dak's fault. Several of those drives were going great until they got shut down by penalties that put them in 3rd and long, most notably the stupid call against Butler.
 

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Dak had more yards and touhcdowns than Romo ever did in a playoff game. The idea that Romo would magically overcome the defense taking the first half of the game off is deeply stupid. The idea that he never had a slow start in a game is pure mythology. The idea that he was some kind of postseason juggernaut runs straight into his 2-4 record.

He also didn't play a murder's row of playoff defenses, contrary to the spin you get from some folks around here. Most of them were around or below league average in either scoring defense or total defense.

The 2006 Seahawks were #19 in total defense, and Romo threw for 189 yards and 1 TD.
The 2007 Giants were #17 in scoring defense and Romo completed 50% of his passes for 201 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT.
The 2009 Eagles were #19 in scoring defense, and Romo still didn't hit 300 yards or 3 TDs.
The 2009 Vikings were #10 in scoring defense, and Romo completely crapped the bed, 198 yards 0 TD 1 INT.
The 2014 Lions were the only top 5 defense Romo ever played against, and he had 293 yards and 2 TDs.
The 2014 Packers were #15 in total defense, and Romo had 191 yards and 2 TDs.

People are talking up the 2016 Packers like they're historically bad on defense. They aren't. They allowed 24.3 points per game, and that was skewed by a couple of early season blowouts. They only gave up more than 27 points in the last 8 games to... the Cowboys.
 

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Dak had more yards and touhcdowns than Romo ever did in a playoff game. The idea that Romo would magically overcome the defense taking the first half of the game off is deeply stupid. The idea that he never had a slow start in a game is pure mythology. The idea that he was some kind of postseason juggernaut runs straight into his 2-4 record.

He also didn't play a murder's row of playoff defenses, contrary to the spin you get from some folks around here. Most of them were around or below league average in either scoring defense or total defense.

The 2006 Seahawks were #19 in total defense, and Romo threw for 189 yards and 1 TD.
The 2007 Giants were #17 in scoring defense and Romo completed 50% of his passes for 201 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT.
The 2009 Eagles were #19 in scoring defense, and Romo still didn't hit 300 yards or 3 TDs.
The 2009 Vikings were #10 in scoring defense, and Romo completely crapped the bed, 198 yards 0 TD 1 INT.
The 2014 Lions were the only top 5 defense Romo ever played against, and he had 293 yards and 2 TDs.
The 2014 Packers were #15 in total defense, and Romo had 191 yards and 2 TDs.

People are talking up the 2016 Packers like they're historically bad on defense. They aren't. They allowed 24.3 points per game, and that was skewed by a couple of early season blowouts. They only gave up more than 27 points in the last 8 games to... the Cowboys.


GBs defense was absolutely awful and their DB was injury-riddled and they were playing softer than Dallas. And Capers wasn't throwing that many zone blitzes, scared to death of Zeke..

Don't ever compare turn to the teams Romo has, particularly since we werare bottom of the league in play-action when Garrett was running the show, and totally incompetent at a running game, while Dallas passing attack this year with Dak alone was probably double in terms of usage than Romo's best year in terms of amount of usage and that was the first time Linehan called plays..
 

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Tell me how Dak failed early in the game when GB was going up 21-3. That wasn't Dak's fault. Several of those drives were going great until they got shut down by penalties that put them in 3rd and long, most notably the stupid call against Butler.

That was one, not several. There were also missed opportunities on that one drive as well. The team had 13 points going into the 4th quarter, that's not all because of one penalty.
 

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Dak had more yards and touhcdowns than Romo ever did in a playoff game. The idea that Romo would magically overcome the defense taking the first half of the game off is deeply stupid. The idea that he never had a slow start in a game is pure mythology. The idea that he was some kind of postseason juggernaut runs straight into his 2-4 record.

He also didn't play a murder's row of playoff defenses, contrary to the spin you get from some folks around here. Most of them were around or below league average in either scoring defense or total defense.

The 2006 Seahawks were #19 in total defense, and Romo threw for 189 yards and 1 TD.
The 2007 Giants were #17 in scoring defense and Romo completed 50% of his passes for 201 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT.
The 2009 Eagles were #19 in scoring defense, and Romo still didn't hit 300 yards or 3 TDs.
The 2009 Vikings were #10 in scoring defense, and Romo completely crapped the bed, 198 yards 0 TD 1 INT.
The 2014 Lions were the only top 5 defense Romo ever played against, and he had 293 yards and 2 TDs.
The 2014 Packers were #15 in total defense, and Romo had 191 yards and 2 TDs.

People are talking up the 2016 Packers like they're historically bad on defense. They aren't. They allowed 24.3 points per game, and that was skewed by a couple of early season blowouts. They only gave up more than 27 points in the last 8 games to... the Cowboys.

This is an embarrassing post of epic proportions.

I especially love the 2009 Eagles example. Romo had 200 yds and 2 TDs at halftime. It was a huge blowout and they ran out the clock the 2nd half.
 

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Dak had more yards and touhcdowns than Romo ever did in a playoff game. The idea that Romo would magically overcome the defense taking the first half of the game off is deeply stupid. The idea that he never had a slow start in a game is pure mythology. The idea that he was some kind of postseason juggernaut runs straight into his 2-4 record.

He also didn't play a murder's row of playoff defenses, contrary to the spin you get from some folks around here. Most of them were around or below league average in either scoring defense or total defense.

The 2006 Seahawks were #19 in total defense, and Romo threw for 189 yards and 1 TD.
The 2007 Giants were #17 in scoring defense and Romo completed 50% of his passes for 201 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT.
The 2009 Eagles were #19 in scoring defense, and Romo still didn't hit 300 yards or 3 TDs.
The 2009 Vikings were #10 in scoring defense, and Romo completely crapped the bed, 198 yards 0 TD 1 INT.
The 2014 Lions were the only top 5 defense Romo ever played against, and he had 293 yards and 2 TDs.
The 2014 Packers were #15 in total defense, and Romo had 191 yards and 2 TDs.

People are talking up the 2016 Packers like they're historically bad on defense. They aren't. They allowed 24.3 points per game, and that was skewed by a couple of early season blowouts. They only gave up more than 27 points in the last 8 games to... the Cowboys.

What was that 2007 Giants team's defensive rank through the playoffs and when they dismantled one of the best offenses in NFL history? Justin Tuck, Strahan, etc

How about 2009 whenever not 100% and old Columbo was reinserted into the lineup over Doug Free and then got beat like a drum by Ray Edwards of the Vikings(who were an untimely pick by Favre away from a super bowl)
 

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I literally just listed off facts. If you don't like dealing in facts... why should anyone give a damn what you have to say?
 

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@khiladi , myself, @romothesavior (iirc), @erod and others....

We said one thing.

When we run into a high scoring offense, and our defense doesnt hold...

Can Dak outscore the other team?

We said NO and were called haters, romo lovers, more worried about romo than the team, and a whole host of other things.

We went about OBJECTIVELY looking at the team, its performance capabilities, etc.

We merely said one thing, No, Dak wont be able to keep up.

Its not that any of us WANTED to be right. We all wish we werent. But we refused to be blinded by a team record, passing "stats", etc.

We didnt "hate" dak, we didnt put romo over dak. We objectively looked at each QB's body of work, the strengths they needed to possess to overcome running into a high powered offense, and concluded, that Dak probably didnt have what it would take. He didnt. Hopefully he will grow and will be able to do such and didnt already hit his ceiling. Time will tell.
I will say, Dak was a stud on Sunday. No complaints at all about his performance in this game or throughout the year, and I don't know that Romo would have done any better. (He might have, but that's a hard argument to make.)

My complaints are directed towards the coaching staff.
 

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Tell me how Dak failed early in the game when GB was going up 21-3. That wasn't Dak's fault. Several of those drives were going great until they got shut down by penalties that put them in 3rd and long, most notably the stupid call against Butler.
Prescott is the present and the future for the next 10 yrs. He will take the Cowboys, and the fans, back to the SB and glory. Count on it! I was hoping this years club would make the Conference game and build on that for next year. Too bad. The Cowboys need an upgrade at HC.
 

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Dak played beyond all expectations for a rookie QB in his first big time game. He had incredible poise and showed any remaining doubters, and I haven't personally seen any of those here, that he has what it takes.

But.

Romo's experience would likely have been the difference. Does Romo spike that ball or run a play? Does Romo throw that interception? Does Romo throw all those balls into the endzone?

It's only speculation at this point but my opinion is that Romo has the experience to make some decisions on his own that make the difference.

As good as Dak played he made some mistakes and doesn't seem to be getting any flack at all. Romo plays the exact same game that Dak did with the same result and many here are blaming him instead of the coaches and the defense and the officials.
 

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@khiladi , myself, @romothesavior (iirc), @erod and others....

We said one thing.

When we run into a high scoring offense, and our defense doesnt hold...

Can Dak outscore the other team?

We said NO and were called haters, romo lovers, more worried about romo than the team, and a whole host of other things.

We went about OBJECTIVELY looking at the team, its performance capabilities, etc.

We merely said one thing, No, Dak wont be able to keep up.

Its not that any of us WANTED to be right. We all wish we werent. But we refused to be blinded by a team record, passing "stats", etc.

We didnt "hate" dak, we didnt put romo over dak. We objectively looked at each QB's body of work, the strengths they needed to possess to overcome running into a high powered offense, and concluded, that Dak probably didnt have what it would take. He didnt. Hopefully he will grow and will be able to do such and didnt already hit his ceiling. Time will tell.

Admittedly I did not call you a hater, but why is it a forgone conclusion that Romo would have outscored Rogers, when he has never won in this round either? It's not like Romo has a proven playoff track record, so I don't get why the loss is on Dak and how we would have won with Romo.
 
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