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JoeKing

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No, I'm not kidding you or anybody else. Romo is the best quarterback Dallas has ever had. You are apparently blinded by bling. Grow up. Staubach and Aikman were great because their teams, both offense and defense, were great, too. Landry and Johnson made sure of it, but Jones failed Romo, the better quarterback without a good enough supporting cast.
God bless you. You are welcome to your opinion. But don't tell me to "Grow up". I've been watching Cowboys games with invested interest since the days when Dandy Don was our QB. Of course your perspective is going to be different than mine and none of us are necessarily wrong. I honor your appreciation for Romo.
 

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God bless you. You are welcome to your opinion. But don't tell me to "Grow up". I've been watching Cowboys games with invested interest since the days when Dandy Don was our QB. Of course your perspective is going to be different than mine and none of us are necessarily wrong. I honor your appreciation for Romo.

If you started watching with Don, you're a late comer.
 

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No, I'm not kidding you or anybody else. Romo is the best quarterback Dallas has ever had. You are apparently blinded by bling. Grow up. Staubach and Aikman were great because their teams, both offense and defense, were great, too. Landry and Johnson made sure of it, but Jones failed Romo, the better quarterback without a good enough supporting cast.

You can kind of make this argument for Aikman because his regular season stats weren't outstanding, but Staubach was an absolutely DOMINANT passer for his era. Like, Peyton Manning tier dominant.

To put it in perspective, Romo was the league's highest rated passer ONCE. Staubach was the league's highest rated passer FOUR TIMES.

Romo was never #1 in the league in (lowest) interception %, adjusted yards per attempt, or adjusted net yards per attempt. Staubach was the best in the league in all those categories multiple times. He also led the league in touchdowns once, which Romo never did. Both led the league in yards per attempt twice. Romo's only regular season statistical trump is leading in completion % once. That's some pretty weak sauce to try to claim he's better than Staubach was in his era.

And as a cherry on top, Romo rushed for 620 yards at 2.6 yards per attempt. Staubach rushed for 2,264 yards at 5.5 yards per attempt. For reference, Cam Newton averages 5.2.
 

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If you started watching with Don, you're a late comer.
Now I know you are full of crap because Don is considered by some to be the original Dallas Cowboy because he had come to the team even before the franchise had adopted a nickname, hired a head coach or participated in either the 1960 NFL Expansion Draft or its first NFL Draft in 1961.
 

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Wow dude.....

My wife is a licensed clinical social worker. I'm going to call her to make an appt just for you. All you have to do is show up. I'll take care of the fees because I care about my fellow fans.
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It's a tangent, but this topic sucks so what the heck: Roger Staubach was an absolutely insane player compared to his peers, and the more you look into it the crazier it gets. People lose sight of it because it was a different era that was much more hostile towards throwing the ball for everyone, so the numbers weren't as gaudy as they are now. Until 1978 offensive linemen couldn't even pass block for the QB like they do now (!!!), and until 1977 you were allowed unlimited mugging of wide receivers all over the field. The kill-shots allowed on QBs were basically unlimited too.

In 1971 Staubach had a passer rating (104.8) that will probably still be elite in 2021. Now, passer rating is just a rough guideline, mostly because it can be easily inflated by throwing short and inflating your completion %. But Staubach led the league in yards per attempt and was averaging 14.9 yards per completion. For perspective, when Tom Brady was throwing unlimited rocketballs to Randy Moss in 2007, he averaged... 12.1. Staubach did that while having the LOWEST interception rate in the league that year. If you like more "advanced" stats he also crushed the rest of the league in AYA and ANYA.

And he averaged 8.4 yards per rushing attempt. Vick's career average was 7.0. So... yeah.

Basically his career as a whole was like peak Aaron Rodgers, if Rodgers had a couple more "literally #1 passer rating in the league" seasons (Staubach had 4, Rodgers has had 2.) And another Super Bowl title. And could survive 1970s murderball. You get the idea.
 

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I will always think highly of Tony Romo and all he gave to this franchise well after he has hung them up for good. However if last year proved anything it is the Cowboys can win even without him in the lineup. there is no need for anyone to take cheap shots at Romo but if Jerry has learned anything it is putting team before player loyalty and hanging on to players. Tony is on the down hill side with injury concerns and big money on the books. Dak has shown he can lead this team and help them win and as much as I hate to see Romo leave I think the time is now to move on.
 

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Now I know you are full of crap because Don is considered by some to be the original Dallas Cowboy because he had come to the team even before the franchise had adopted a nickname, hired a head coach or participated in either the 1960 NFL Expansion Draft or its first NFL Draft in 1961.

You read that somewhere. Eddie LeBaron was the original starting quarterback for the Cowboys in 1960. Meredith came that year as a rookie but didn't start at first. LeBaron started ten games in 1960, Meredith one, Heinrich one. The next year LeBaron again started ten games. Don Meredith started four games in 1961.
 

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That's cold blooded, Stash.

"Why are the cowboys snake bitten?! ... Why does the ball always bounce the other way?!"

KARMA.

I have been a fan since 05 and have always wondered why we ( Cowboys) have such bad luck... Now i get it.
When the majority of your fanbase treats legends such as Ware, Witten , and Romo like worthless bums, you don't deserve to see them as champions..
Ware already got his...Romo is next.
 

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My god... this forum really has gone downhill the last two years. It all started in 2015 when people were arguing about the Cowboys losing on purpose and the massive amount of annoying insults that were being passed around. Now we have all this garbage this year with Dak vs. Tony. It's just nauseating seeing everyone taking a side when we should all be supporting both guys. We're all Cowboys fans and we want to see them succeed. But this forum is divided and it's just sad to see to be honest. If there's one thing erod got right in his post, it's that we have one of the worst fanbases in sports.
 

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You read that somewhere. Eddie LeBaron was the original starting quarterback for the Cowboys in 1960. Meredith came that year as a rookie but didn't start at first. LeBaron started ten games in 1960, Meredith one, Heinrich one. The next year LeBaron again started ten games. Don Meredith started four games in 1961.
You are splitting hairs. I never said Meredith was the first starting Cowboys QB, only that that I've been watching the Cowboys play since then. It was 1960 Week 7 and the Cowboys played the Rams and Don Meredith was the starting QB.
 

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More deserving than Romo, hell yes!
:laugh::lmao::lmao2:So you take a QB that has been top 10 at his position once or twice in his career over a QB that has always been in the top 10 with multiple appearances in the top 5? And you're calling other people's thinking skewed?
 

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:laugh::lmao::lmao2:So you take a QB that has been top 10 at his position once or twice in his career over a QB that has always been in the top 10 with multiple appearances in the top 5? And you're calling other people's thinking skewed?
Championships is what it's all about, not regular season consistency. If you don't understand that you've lost site of the big picture to accommodate the postseason shortcomings of Romo.
 

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Championships is what it's all about, not regular season consistency. If you don't understand that you've lost site of the big picture to accommodate the postseason shortcomings of Romo.
Glad to know Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson > Marino. Playoff games aren't a QB competition with nobody else on the field. Your big picture = ringzz!!!11!!1!
 

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Championships is what it's all about, not regular season consistency. If you don't understand that you've lost site of the big picture to accommodate the postseason shortcomings of Romo.


Rex Grossman > Dak Prescott

Sanchez > Dak Prescott
 

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Glad to know Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson > Marino. Playoff games aren't a QB competition with nobody else on the field. Your big picture = ringzz!!!11!!1!
Why do they play the game? Championships!
 

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Why do they play the game? Championships!
I rest my case. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer > Marino and are equal to Aaron Rodgers. Peyton Manning's last year was obviously his greatest year except for 2006.
 
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