Cowboys losing Ground? For the Record . reinforces how 2016 was a missed opportunity ***MERGED***

[windward]

Might be more meaningful if you hadn't said the same last year. But alas.

It is amazing isn't it? How consistent every offseason sounds, that is.

I find it's better to be an agnostic regarding the upcoming NFL season. Much more fun than pretending I know the outcome.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

It is amazing isn't it? How consistent every offseason sounds, that is.

I find it's better to be an agnostic regarding the upcoming NFL season. Much more fun than pretending I know the outcome.

Personally, I am able to predict each game without rosters, injuries or schedules.

 

[windward]

Personally, I am able to predict each game without rosters, injuries or schedules.

Well I know that playcalls that work are good ones and the ones that don't are bad.

 

[aria]

all I am saying is you can't buy a championship. NY, Wash and Philly have tried it cost a lot of money and in the end they are no closer to the SB. I don't care if you bash them or not fact is a bunch of no names put up more sacks than the NY defense did a defense that has 2 high priced players on that D Line that is fact. I agree that our defense needs to be addressed but much like the OL I think much of it will be through the draft not through high priced FA.

I agree with most of what you said. More times than not, spending big in FA can be a waste of money but in the specific case of the Giants it happened to work out well for them unfortunately.

You can post sack numbers all you want but there were many other factors that were in play that helped the Cowboys defense look better then it was. The 2015 Giants had one of the worst, if not the worst, defense in the league and last year they became one of the best. Much of that same group will be back this year. It may nit have bought them a championship but it got them a lot closer and if it weren't for their horrendous offense it may have bought them a championship.

I really do get your point though, just a slight difference in opinion

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well for one, no one is saying that they should just spend crazily in free agency and try to land all the top players. That's a strawman argument that people keep bringing up every time we have this discussion. But they could spend a bit more than hitting the bargain bin to try to sure up a place without having to need the draft to deliver impact players almost immediately at 3-4 spots on defense.

I'm just saying we should not be paying the market rate in the first weeks of TC. And outside of Waldo and his desire for a $10m the rest of you are short of specifics.

But please tell us who you can get for Barry Church money.

 

[DandyDon52]

Two years ago they beat the Ravens specifically because of the hurry-up, declare the WR ineligible at the last moment rule play-calling.. before that Brady wasn't moving the ball and if it weren't for those play-calls, they would have lost..

That's the genius of their coaching...

and the way Bellichek coaches the DBs year in and year out, its a work to behold.. you see the
patriots play incredibly bad the first half and all of the sudden, after half-time it's a whole new ball game, cheating or not..

the genius of our coaching is getting caught with 12 men trying to substitute against rodgers, and then sending butler on
field then back off.
Then the spike at end which allowed GB to regroup.

 

[DandyDon52]

I agree with most of what you said. More times than not, spending big in FA can be a waste of money but in the specific case of the Giants it happened to work out well for them unfortunately.

You can post sack numbers all you want but there were many other factors that were in play that helped the Cowboys defense look better then it was. The 2015 Giants had one of the worst, if not the worst, defense in the league and last year they became one of the best. Much of that same group will be back this year. It may nit have bought them a championship but it got them a lot closer and if it weren't for their horrendous offense it may have bought them a championship.

I really do get your point though, just a slight difference in opinion

Mcadoo's offense is the problem, the giants offense went downhill when they lost the guy who was the SB oc.

 

[waldoputty]

the genius of our coaching is getting caught with 12 men trying to substitute against rodgers, and then sending butler on
field then back off.
Then the spike at end which allowed GB to regroup.

do not remind us!

 

[aria]

Mcadoo's offense is the problem, the giants offense went downhill when they lost the guy who was the SB oc.

It could be, my buddy is a big Giants fan and complained a lot about McAdoo this year. What's puzzling though is how he had a top 5-10 offense the year before with almost the exact same personnel. HC and OC jobs too much for him? Thats what my friend thinks. I dunno but I'm not complaining, lol. It would have been scary, like Super Bowl scary, if they had last years defense with their 2015 offense. Luckily they never got paired up.

 

[Blackspider214]

the genius of our coaching is getting caught with 12 men trying to substitute against rodgers, and then sending butler on
field then back off.
Then the spike at end which allowed GB to regroup.

I stand by the belief that we will never win anything at all with this staff, specifically Garrett as the head coach. He controls the whole thing. Our coaching staff will never put us in position to win. The divisional round game was pathetic on so many fronts coaching wise. We were not prepared at all. From playcalling to subbing to strategy. We leave ourselves with zero room for error so any little mistake magnifies itself in those instances.

 

[MileyDancer]

Might be more meaningful if you hadn't said the same last year. But alas.

I wasn't the only one that said that when Romo went down. Did you honestly think we'd win 13 games? Don't lie.

 

[MileyDancer]

I stand by the belief that we will never win anything at all with this staff, specifically Garrett as the head coach. He controls the whole thing. Our coaching staff will never put us in position to win. The divisional round game was pathetic on so many fronts coaching wise. We were not prepared at all. From playcalling to subbing to strategy. We leave ourselves with zero room for error so any little mistake magnifies itself in those instances.

I'm right there with you.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Ohhhhhhh the entire league now has the Prescott tape....sound the alarms!!!!

 

[Beast_from_East]

According to this graph, over the past three seasons as far as FA Spending = Wins goes, the Cowboys are right there with the best in the NFL

Basically what this graph is saying is that the Denver Broncos are the only team that has successfully "bought a SB trophy".

 

[Beast_from_East]

Do you not understand that our defense gave up the 5th least amount of points last season and was ranked #1 vs the run? Those are the facts, look them up yourself if you doubt them. Your hyperbole is ridiculous. We have work to do on defense, no doubt but the rebuilt job you are making up is ridiculous. "Our defensive line is a joke"?... no your rhetoric is a joke.

 

[irving]

Yes we have taken a step back. This will be a transition year as we clear salaries and players off the team. With a first place schedule, I would not expect more than 8-8. We simply do not have a playoff defense and the draft is not going to save it.

There is no way anyone can definitively say Dallas has taken a step back, you have to wait for the season to start, you then have to play several games before you can actually form any kind of opinion as to who has improved and who has not. Teams are different every year, you often hear coaches say that. The NFL has parity for the most part, there are no super teams everyone is beatable.

 

[DandyDon52]

There is no way anyone can definitively say Dallas has taken a step back, you have to wait for the season to start, you then have to play several games before you can actually form any kind of opinion as to who has improved and who has not. Teams are different every year, you often hear coaches say that. The NFL has parity for the most part, there are no super teams everyone is beatable.

anytime you lose 4 or more starters, and are drafting low like dallas is, and you dont do anything in FA, then yeah it is a step back.
last year everybody came back and they drafted high, and got 2 starters and 2-3 more that played, so last year was a good year.
They also got lucky in who they played and when.
So dont expect 11 in a row this year, or another 13-3

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

anytime you lose 4 or more starters, and are drafting low like dallas is, and you dont do anything in FA, then yeah it is a step back.
last year everybody came back and they drafted high, and got 2 starters and 2-3 more that played, so last year was a good year.
They also got lucky in who they played and when.
So dont expect 11 in a row this year, or another 13-3

Lol. No everyone did not come back. They've replaced two of the starters in free agency. Draft position doesn't really matter after round 1.

When they're good it's luck. When it's unknown it's going to be bad. Pretty good summary of your wonderful contributions here.

No one should expect anything and the guy you're quoting pointed that out. You're the one who thinks he can see the future. Sad thing is this post just shows how poorly you're able to interpret the past.

 

[waldoputty]

There is no way anyone can definitively say Dallas has taken a step back, you have to wait for the season to start, you then have to play several games before you can actually form any kind of opinion as to who has improved and who has not. Teams are different every year, you often hear coaches say that. The NFL has parity for the most part, there are no super teams everyone is beatable.

the cowboys will still be very very good.
it is just they did not take the opportunity to launch themselves into a clear favorite along with the Patriots.
the draft will be more about replacing pieces than improving.
and if the draft is not nearly as good as 2016, the defense will be missing pieces.
in comparison, have you seen what the Pats added this off-season?

please dont tell us they did not have the cap dollars.
they have used over $11mil of cap space, still have ~8mil current and could have open up another $13 mil or so.
that is plenty to bring in 3 top FAs and the top RT available if they wanted to.

the most clear example is signing someone like bouye or gilmore instead of the 3rd tier CB we brought in.
now CB is a need in the draft.
instead, they could have definitively addressed CB like the WR.
furthermore, they left RT wide open knowing that free would be retiring.
now part of dak's protection lacks a clear starter, unless you are counting on someone who was out 3/4 of the games in 2016 and a journeyman would appeared to play well in 1 game.
the draft could have focused on DE and also grabbed a SS.
instead, now there are multiple holes to plug while starting at #28 instead of #4.

 

[irving]

anytime you lose 4 or more starters, and are drafting low like dallas is, and you dont do anything in FA, then yeah it is a step back.
last year everybody came back and they drafted high, and got 2 starters and 2-3 more that played, so last year was a good year.
They also got lucky in who they played and when.
So dont expect 11 in a row this year, or another 13-3

Once again I will say you have to see how things play out. No one expects 11 in a row in any year. This is the NFL it's not supposed to be easy. Many times one team is projected to do much better based on their off season, and many times we see those projections are wrong. Did anyone project Dallas to win the division with a rookie backfield? The season has to play itself out, before anyone can say who has moved forward and who has stepped back. No disrespect meant to your opinion.