Jerry Jones: Cowboys Will Stand For The Flag Or “Your *** Will Be Off The Team” ***FAKE ARTICLE***

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nathanlt

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Standing for the national anthem is the one time that every political viewpoint, personal grudge, and deeply held convictions are paused while we pay respect to the freedom paid in the lives of men and women who sacrificed to secure and maintain that freedom. It's incredibly self-centered to elevate a personal grudge or perceived persecution above that moment of remembrance.

The national anthem IS about the military, it IS about our freedoms. It's not about allegiance to the President or any political figure, or any political statement.

As Cowboys fans, we get the bonus lesson by witnessing the strong friendship that Emmitt Smith and Daryl Johnston have, and realize that skin pigmentation does not predetermine good choices, hard work, and the willingness to respect another human being, whatever the differences.
 

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Standing for the national anthem is the one time that every political viewpoint, personal grudge, and deeply held convictions are paused while we pay respect to the freedom paid in the lives of men and women who sacrificed to secure and maintain that freedom. It's incredibly self-centered to elevate a personal grudge or perceived persecution above that moment of remembrance.

The national anthem IS about the military, it IS about our freedoms. It's not about allegiance to the President or any political figure, or any political statement.

As Cowboys fans, we get the bonus lesson by witnessing the strong friendship that Emmitt Smith and Daryl Johnston have, and realize that skin pigmentation does not predetermine good choices, hard work, and the willingness to respect another human being, whatever the differences.
Were you military?
 

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Guess what, buddy -- There's a lot of folks doing community service. My battle, Randal, heads Project Healing Waters. He's completely fine with Kaep's kneeling. My friend Becky is a counselor with VOA, she's fine with it, too. My battle Robby Rob is a police officer, and he's good with it, as well.

Different strokes for different folks.

Y'all put too much thought into nothing. What easy lives you've all had. And spare me the "you don't know what I've been through" crappola.

When one faces death, arguments like these can tick one off. Speaking for my battles (most of them) and myself.

Who cares what some dude does during the Anthem. Who. Cares.

Half the time I don't stand, too damned lazy and double fisting brews. Am I bad American?
Kinda missed my whole point. I said I don't have a problem with them sitting. I have a problem with people acting like they are doing something of substance or being some kind of heros for social justice. Most of them couldn't even be bothered to make this empty stand, until Trump called them out as a group.
 

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BS, I work extremely hard to make a change in my community. I have for years worked my *** off with the teenage homeless community and homeless lgbt teenage community here in Salt Lake City. I find it offensive to see a bunch of rich football players making a superficial gesture and we are supposed to act like they are fighting injustice. Not one person I have ever worked with has had a job doing the community service projects we do. Most go and work a 40 he week and volunteer in the evenings and weekends. And absolutely none have the income to make the kinda change NFL players do!
I don't have a real problem with them sitting for the anthem. I do have a problem when we are being told that they are fighters for social equality, when they are actually doing nothing.
Even if the only thing they are doing is getting people talking about why they are kneeling then you can’t say they are doing nothing. Maybe you feel they should do more...and maybe they are...
But when someone wants to speak for them instead of listening to them and acting like the protest is about dead soldiers then you should be outraged with the lack of actual support these same people are giving to living soldiers...22 vets commit suicide each day and millions more are homeless and no one even speaks about the fact that the bipartisan senate just approve another $700 billion dollars on more bombs to keep us in perpetual war which creates more future soldiers who could end up homeless, mentally ill or dead..

Where is the outrage over the fact that we have been in Afghanistan for 17years now and fighting, losing to an enemy that has attempted to surrender several times already. (Look it up..it’s true).
The military industrial complex has full control of our government and their business model only exist if they can keep us at non stop war..if you want to stick up for soldiers then do something about our government sending people into danger non stop to feed their war profiteering buddies. Creating more vets and dead soldiers when you do nothing to take care of the ones you already created.
 

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BS, I work extremely hard to make a change in my community. I have for years worked my *** off with the teenage homeless community and homeless lgbt teenage community here in Salt Lake City. I find it offensive to see a bunch of rich football players making a superficial gesture and we are supposed to act like they are fighting injustice. Not one person I have ever worked with has had a job doing the community service projects we do. Most go and work a 40 he week and volunteer in the evenings and weekends. And absolutely none have the income to make the kinda change NFL players do!
I don't have a real problem with them sitting for the anthem. I do have a problem when we are being told that they are fighters for social equality, when they are actually doing nothing.

Doing work in your community is something that affects you. You are helping the people that you live with.

Do you disagree with any of the following?
  • Police have extra rights granted to them by laws known as law enforcement bill of rights that grant them protections from investigations and prosecutions that citizens do not enjoy.
  • Police are protected by fear justifying use of force whether or not said fear was justified or if procedure had or had not been followed.
  • Police are able to seize assets through civil forfeiture thus depriving people of property without charges being brought much less a trial or conviction.
  • Racial profiling and stop and frisk policing has been shown to be ineffective in reducing crime yet are still utilized.
  • Broken windows policing where in poorer neighborhood's minor infractions are met with extreme punishment have been ineffective in reducing crime and erode trust in police yet still are utilized.
  • Police unions are the most powerful unions in the country.

Cause these are the things that are being protested. Kaepernick and Bennett who have been the most prominent voices of the protest have talked about these issues extensively. Whether or not they spend time or money on other community projects is besides the point. They do btw. Nonetheless bringing attention to the above issues is the opposite of "nothing."
 

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Kapernick has donated over 1 million dollars to various charities and programs directed at risk teenagers.
So he donated approximately 1/40th of his net worth. Hope eat can still afford to eat. Honestly though Kap isn't the real problem. He pretty much ended his football career to actually do something. His stand wasn't an empty one. He made an actual sacrifice for his cause. The rest of these NFL players...not so much.
 

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Kinda missed my whole point. I said I don't have a problem with them sitting. I have a problem with people acting like they are doing something of substance or being some kind of heros for social justice. Most of them couldn't even be bothered to make this empty stand, until Trump called them out as a group.
You use military as a pawn for your argument.

Were you military?
 

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So he donated approximately 1/40th of his net worth. Hope eat can still afford to eat. Honestly though Kap isn't the real problem. He pretty much ended his football career to actually do something. His stand wasn't an empty one. He made an actual sacrifice for his cause. The rest of these NFL players...not so much.
So you're in agreement with Kaep? Just not the others that don't donate actual money?
 

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Doing work in your community is something that affects you. You are helping the people that you live with.

Do you disagree with any of the following?
  • Police have extra rights granted to them by laws known as law enforcement bill of rights that grant them protections from investigations and prosecutions that citizens do not enjoy.
  • Police are protected by fear justifying use of force whether or not said fear was justified or if procedure had or had not been followed.
  • Police are able to seize assets through civil forfeiture thus depriving people of property without charges being brought much less a trial or conviction.
  • Racial profiling and stop and frisk policing has been shown to be ineffective in reducing crime yet are still utilized.
  • Broken windows policing where in poorer neighborhood's minor infractions are met with extreme punishment have been ineffective in reducing crime and erode trust in police yet still are utilized.
  • Police unions are the most powerful unions in the country.

Cause these are the things that are being protested. Kaepernick and Bennett who have been the most prominent voices of the protest have talked about these issues extensively. Whether or not they spend time or money on other community projects is besides the point. They do btw. Nonetheless bringing attention to the above issues is the opposite of "nothing."
Trust me I'm not fan of police corruption. I have been a victim of it myself and have an actual fear of police. I actually have anxiety issues because of it. All I'm saying is, these players have to do actual work towards a solution. Again they didn't care or didn't care to show it until they were attacked by Trump.
 

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So you're in agreement with Kaep? Just not the others that don't donate actual money?
For one I didn't bring up the military once, so you're talking to the wrong person. And no it isn't about money! It's about the fact that Kap actually did something. Again his career is likely over because of his stand.
 

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Trust me I'm not fan of police corruption. I have been a victim of it myself and have an actual fear of police. I actually have anxiety issues because of it. All I'm saying is, these players have to do actual work towards a solution. Again they didn't care or didn't care to show it until they were attacked by Trump.
A lot of players were demonstrating before the recent comments from our Commander in Chief
 

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For one I didn't bring up the military once, so you're talking to the wrong person. And no it isn't about money! It's about the fact that Kap actually did something. Again his career is likely over because of his stand.
****, you're right, I got you confused with Nathan. My bad man.
 

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Trust me I'm not fan of police corruption. I have been a victim of it myself and have an actual fear of police. I actually have anxiety issues because of it. All I'm saying is, these players have to do actual work towards a solution. Again they didn't care or didn't care to show it until they were attacked by Trump.

What are you talking about. Trump was precipitated by anthem protests in most NFL cities and a whole bunch of warrants served on his administration. The Cowboys were the outlier of the NFL. All POTUS did was galvanize the movement.

Kaepernick and Bennett have been discussing the issues I brought up for over a year. The problem is that most people exist in a media bubble where they don't hear or read alternative viewpoints.

The NFL and its owners have taken their stands. It's time to move on from whether or not they should and speaking for an armed services that refuses to condemn the protest and actually look at what they are saying on its merits. The only groups that are chirping are conservative pundits and politicians and police unions.

The police state needs to end.
 

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****, you're right, I got you confused with Nathan. My bad man.
No worries. Honestly I don't even like having this conversation. But yes it has to be had, because there are real injustices happening that need to be addressed. If real change is going to be made things have to be done more than just standing for the anthem.
 

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No worries. Honestly I don't even like having this conversation. But yes it has to be had, because there are real injustices happening that need to be addressed. If real change is going to be made things have to be done more than just standing for the anthem.
Well I certainly won't argue with you there, 75. Again, apologies for coming at you sideways.
 

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Standing for the national anthem is the one time that every political viewpoint, personal grudge, and deeply held convictions are paused while we pay respect to the freedom paid in the lives of men and women who sacrificed to secure and maintain that freedom. It's incredibly self-centered to elevate a personal grudge or perceived persecution above that moment of remembrance.

The national anthem IS about the military, it IS about our freedoms. It's not about allegiance to the President or any political figure, or any political statement.

As Cowboys fans, we get the bonus lesson by witnessing the strong friendship that Emmitt Smith and Daryl Johnston have, and realize that skin pigmentation does not predetermine good choices, hard work, and the willingness to respect another human being, whatever the differences.
Again, were you military?
 

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Standing for the national anthem is the one time that every political viewpoint, personal grudge, and deeply held convictions are paused while we pay respect to the freedom paid in the lives of men and women who sacrificed to secure and maintain that freedom. It's incredibly self-centered to elevate a personal grudge or perceived persecution above that moment of remembrance.

The national anthem IS about the military, it IS about our freedoms. It's not about allegiance to the President or any political figure, or any political statement.

As Cowboys fans, we get the bonus lesson by witnessing the strong friendship that Emmitt Smith and Daryl Johnston have, and realize that skin pigmentation does not predetermine good choices, hard work, and the willingness to respect another human being, whatever the differences.

lol wut. The armed services has not in anyway condemned the protests and you don't get to speak for "the military." The people that are taking issue are the police unions and it is precisely them that are being protested.

The national anthem is about our country and that includes everyone and not just who you want to speak for.

And the protest is about people who feel rights are being infringed. 14th amendment and all that.

Police unions are a blight.
 
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