NFL ratings continue to drop

I feel some penalties should be challenge-able.
Nothing worse than seeing a game changing big run or pass called back to a weak/bad holding call.
Of course some may say it could slow down the game even more, but coaches can challenge up to 2 to 3 times on other rulings.
 
So now we want the refs who over-officiate the game to determine what penalty had a negative influence on the play? Lets face it. Some of these penalties are blatant. The Seahawks and Pats have made a living off of mugging receivers and never really got flagged as much as I thought they should have. Also, if a primary receiver gets mugged on an important play and the QB decides to throw to his second option and it was a completed pass for a minimal gain, would that be a non-call?

@John813 had a good idea with being able to challenge a penalty. Some are so ticky tacky that they'd be overturned and it would keep the refs from deciding a game on a bad call.
 
Dodger12 said:
So now we want the refs who over-officiate the game to determine what penalty had a negative influence on the play? Lets face it. Some of these penalties are blatant. The Seahawks and Pats have made a living off of mugging receivers and never really got flagged as much as I thought they should have. Also, if a primary receiver gets mugged on an important play and the QB decides to throw to his second option and it was a completed pass for a minimal gain, would that be a non-call?

@John813 had a good idea with being able to challenge a penalty. Some are so ticky tacky that they'd be overturned and it would keep the refs from deciding a game on a bad call.
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It would extend the game too much.
 
This is one of the most overblown "stories" you'll ever see.
And it's all in how the media couches the argument.

Ratings are down across ALL TV.
This is a 8.5% Dip for NFL is actually LESS than the standard across ALL TV in 2017 which through 9 months was 12.3%.

People under 30 have Netflix and Hulu but generally not standard cable packages.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/weekly-ratings/cable-top-25-for-dec-11-17-2017/
Led by a five-week high for “Monday Night Football,” NFL programming dominated the cable rankings for the week of Dec. 11.

“MNF” led the week by wide margins in both adults 18-49 (3.8 rating) and total viewers (11.78 million). A pair of Saturday games on the NFL Network and pre- and post-game shows took up the next five spots in adults 18-49 and next four in viewers.

The top non-sports shows of the week in adults 18-49 were “The Real Housewives of Atlanta” and an hour of “Anderson Cooper 360” on Tuesday, covering the Senate election in Alabama. Both drew 1.0 ratings.
 
jterrell said:
This is one of the most overblown "stories" you'll ever see.
And it's all in how the media couches the argument.

Ratings are down across ALL TV.
This is a 8.5% Dip for NFL is actually LESS than the standard across ALL TV in 2017 which through 9 months was 12.3%.

People under 30 have Netflix and Hulu but generally not standard cable packages.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/weekly-ratings/cable-top-25-for-dec-11-17-2017/
Led by a five-week high for “Monday Night Football,” NFL programming dominated the cable rankings for the week of Dec. 11.

“MNF” led the week by wide margins in both adults 18-49 (3.8 rating) and total viewers (11.78 million). A pair of Saturday games on the NFL Network and pre- and post-game shows took up the next five spots in adults 18-49 and next four in viewers.

The top non-sports shows of the week in adults 18-49 were “The Real Housewives of Atlanta” and an hour of “Anderson Cooper 360” on Tuesday, covering the Senate election in Alabama. Both drew 1.0 ratings.
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yawn. Do you get paid to shill for the NFL or does it just give you a warm fuzzy?
 
diefree666 said:
yawn. Do you get paid to shill for the NFL or does it just give you a warm fuzzy?
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I am not shilling for anyone. This is simply the truth.
I like hearing the actual truth and looking at reality, not a pretty little lie wrapped up for you.

I truly despise Goodell and absolutely hate the catch rule and other nonsense in the game but the NFL is the most most watched show by 390% and the friggin terrible pre and post game are still higher than ANYTHING else and all we hear is OMG NFL is dying, ROFLMAO.

What's worse is people have so little common sense they'd see the lie in their own actions if they desired to but they love the lie. So they repeat it and believe it.
There's been over a thousand posts on this site along about NFL ratings.
People obviously pay attention and care; including you numbskull.
 
jterrell said:
I am not shilling for anyone. This is simply the truth.
I like hearing the actual truth and looking at reality, not a pretty little lie wrapped up for you.

I truly despise Goodell and absolutely hate the catch rule and other nonsense in the game but the NFL is the most most watched show by 390% and the friggin terrible pre and post game are still higher than ANYTHING else and all we hear is OMG NFL is dying, ROFLMAO.

What's worse is people have so little common sense they'd see the lie in their own actions if they desired to but they love the lie. So they repeat it and believe it.
There's been over a thousand posts on this site along about NFL ratings.
People obviously pay attention and care; including you numbskull.
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The ratings are down 20% across the board for the NFL since 2015

Even if millennials are streaming it doesn't help the TV contracts ........ the numbers are still the numbers and the numbers are down big time
 
Nightman said:
The ratings are down 20% across the board for the NFL since 2015

Even if millennials are streaming it doesn't help the TV contracts ........ the numbers are still the numbers and the numbers are down big time
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It ain’t going anywhere. Just like Garrett :muttley:
 
Nightman said:
The ratings are down 20% across the board for the NFL since 2015

Even if millennials are streaming it doesn't help the TV contracts ........ the numbers are still the numbers and the numbers are down big time
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That's correct.
It's why Disney bought Fox heavily influenced by the possible Hulu majority shareholder stake.

When TV contracts renew the NFL will still be the biggest baddest content provider but the money will be spread more ways then just a couple major networks.

Whichever service gets the NFL will have an add on package that costs 20-30 per month.

The NFL is still the most desired content that exists in the US and to US advertisers.
EPL/Champions League the most desired world wide.

Advertisers are spending more and more money on social media.

This is all a well known, well studied trend and is not about the NFL dying, lol.
How many Cowboys games have you missed? I've seen them all.
 
When the NFL would have to worry is when some other content was stealing their ratings.
That hasn't happened.
And we consume more content than ever before.
It's just based largely on your smartphone or tablet.
 
jterrell said:
When the NFL would have to worry is when some other content was stealing their ratings.
That hasn't happened.
And we consume more content than ever before.
It's just based largely on your smartphone or tablet.
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But they did just let their fans know that they can survive without 24/7 saturation allegiance

A lot of fans walked away this year from Live games and TV games and will never come 100% back

They have seen behind the curtain and realized there is a big huge world out there

And never talk to message board members about their consumption...... we are the fanatics by definition
 
jterrell said:
This is one of the most overblown "stories" you'll ever see.
And it's all in how the media couches the argument.

Ratings are down across ALL TV.
This is a 8.5% Dip for NFL is actually LESS than the standard across ALL TV in 2017 which through 9 months was 12.3%.

People under 30 have Netflix and Hulu but generally not standard cable packages.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/weekly-ratings/cable-top-25-for-dec-11-17-2017/
Led by a five-week high for “Monday Night Football,” NFL programming dominated the cable rankings for the week of Dec. 11.

“MNF” led the week by wide margins in both adults 18-49 (3.8 rating) and total viewers (11.78 million). A pair of Saturday games on the NFL Network and pre- and post-game shows took up the next five spots in adults 18-49 and next four in viewers.

The top non-sports shows of the week in adults 18-49 were “The Real Housewives of Atlanta” and an hour of “Anderson Cooper 360” on Tuesday, covering the Senate election in Alabama. Both drew 1.0 ratings.
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The NBA is way up.....18-25%........ so that kind of blows up your theory

https://nypost.com/2017/12/21/nba-enjoys-ratings-renaissance-as-nfl-flounders/
 
haleyrules said:
It could improve if the league took those distracting and annoyingly over used little yellow flags away from the dimwits that try to ruin every game. That would be a great start!!
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They put the refs in place with vague rules written by lawyers on purpose. They control the flow of the game and keep it as close as possible so that you don't change the channel. Ad revenue is key.
 
Dodger12 said:
So now we want the refs who over-officiate the game to determine what penalty had a negative influence on the play? Lets face it. Some of these penalties are blatant. The Seahawks and Pats have made a living off of mugging receivers and never really got flagged as much as I thought they should have. Also, if a primary receiver gets mugged on an important play and the QB decides to throw to his second option and it was a completed pass for a minimal gain, would that be a non-call?

@John813 had a good idea with being able to challenge a penalty. Some are so ticky tacky that they'd be overturned and it would keep the refs from deciding a game on a bad call.
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But the refs are the 3rd opponent put in place to dictate outcomes. Do you think the NFL would leave billions of dollars to chance?
 
Don Corleone said:
They put the refs in place with vague rules written by lawyers on purpose. They control the flow of the game and keep it as close as possible so that you don't change the channel. Ad revenue is key.
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Tell you what...steering the games is getting out of control. The fan base is smarter than the owners think.
 
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