We hate on JG, some more than others and some even clamored for Jon Gruden. Why?

[JoeKing]

The problem was they were hand-picked by Jerry. The only good coach was the Tuna.

Jimmy Johnson was the best head coach the Cowboys will ever have but the egos of Jimmy and Jerry could not coexist for long. I give credit to Jerry for hand picking Jimmy, that's not a problem. The problem was Jerry couldn't check his own ego enough to keep Jimmy around. The Tuna was entertaining but he was more snake oil salesman than coach.

 

[northerncowboynation]

Dayammm I had no idea this would be such a long thread. Nailed it. Yeah. I did

 

[Beast_from_East]

.... we hate on JG, some more than others. Some even clamored for Jon Gruden. Why? Gruden took a team built by Dungy and staff to 1 SB (the year of the inheritance) then nothing. In fact Gruden, in his career as a HC Gruden's teams were a combined 14 games over .500. Pretty much the same as JG coached teams with 12.

Fact, JG coached teams are 12 games over .500 over the past 8 years as a HC. 10 games over .500 if you throw out 2010. Only a handful of coaches and teams have had a better W/L record over the past seven years. Those teams are NE, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Seattle, Baltimore, Denver, New Orleans. There are 20 or so teams who have had fewer wins than the Cowboys over those 7 years.

I don't know about the majority of Cowboy fans but that tells me that HC changes rarely change a teams W/L record. If it did, 20 or so teams would have a better W/L record than JG coached teams over the past 7 seasons because most of them have had at least one HC'ing change.

Discuss among yourselves

The answer to your question is in my sig................."1 playoff win over 7 years and misses the playoffs 72% of the time."

 

[northerncowboynation]

The answer to your question is in my sig................."1 playoff win over 7 years and misses the playoffs 72% of the time."

I know how to keep a thread goin!! Show some love to JG

 

[Miller]

0-4 elimination games
19-21 Dec/Jan
1 playoff win in 7 seasons
Can’t manage games
No back to back playoff years
Every coach with his yrs tenured has won or made SB

Teams turn it around with new coaches yearly. Why keep one out of fear?

 

[Beast_from_East]

Yes, if your goal is to win championships, the majority of coaches aren't good enough. But that shouldn't be an excuse for never trying to find that coach or sticking with one that has shown over a long period he's incapable of winning one.

The trends don't lie. Of the 31 coaches who have won SBs, 27 of them won a SB within their first 5 years in that particular job. If Garrett were to win a SB at this point, he would be an anomaly.

Exactly................I asked a week or so ago for somebody to name me one head coach in the Superbowl era that won only a single playoff game his first seven years as head coach and then went on to win a SuperBowl WITH THE SAME TEAM.


CRICKETS................all I have heard

 

[khiladi]

Again a stupid A post, all Coaches have qbs doing the job for them, since the coach can't get on field. They went 13-3 last season with a orookie and no Romo to save him as you put it.

He didn’t do anything, because Jerry took away his play calling duties.

The only thing he did was probably had his father to convince Jerry that Dak was better for the team than Romo and that proved to show just how even more incompetent he was..

 

[Alexander]

0-4 elimination games
19-21 Dec/Jan
1 playoff win in 7 seasons
Can’t manage games
No back to back playoff years
Every coach with his yrs tenured has won or made SB

Teams turn it around with new coaches yearly. Why keep one out of fear?

It is not fear.

It is because they have invested a lot of time into training him. Jones has essentially come right out and admitted that.

 

[Sarek]

Dayammm I had no idea this would be such a long thread. Nailed it. Yeah. I did

You mean i did, if your thread never got moved it would of withered. Good news is you know what goes where now.

 

[Beast_from_East]

So it's Garretts fault for the catch ruling against GB?

We are talking about the full body of work bro, not a single game.

In the past seven years, the only head coaches still employed with their original team that have not appeared in a SB is Jason Garrett and Marvin Lewis. Every other coach that has not made it to the SB was fired.

So with Garrett's full body of work, the only two teams that consider that an acceptable result is Dallas and Cinci.......this is a fact, not opinion

 

[Beast_from_East]

Gruden talks a good game and that is what people see.

The only thing is that I don't remember Gruden personally botching two games a year due to his coaching mistakes, game management, ect....

I also never heard Gruden be called a "head coach in training".................in fact, I don't recall any other head coach in history basically described as wearing a diaper by the owner.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Garrett makes the same mistakes over and over, and does not make the sum of the parts better. A 56% win coach regular season, a 33% record post season, makes the playoffs 28% of the times, wins 25% against rookie coaches, and has a putrid record in elimination games. Doesnt this franchise deserve batter than this fraud?

 

[Mad_max]

It is not fear.

It is because they have invested a lot of time into training him. Jones has essentially come right out and admitted that.

Like dog training or training a monkey?

 

[Rockport]

We are talking about the full body of work bro, not a single game.

In the past seven years, the only head coaches still employed with their original team that have not appeared in a SB is Jason Garrett and Marvin Lewis. Every other coach that has not made it to the SB was fired.

So with Garrett's full body of work, the only two teams that consider that an acceptable result is Dallas and Cinci.......this is a fact, not opinion

I’m on board with giving him 1 more year. So are the Cowboys. We have to deal with it and move on. Constant *****ing and moaning about does no one any good except for the ones doing the *****ing and moaning.

 

[jjktkk]

In one of the interviews by Gruden, he specifically mentions one of the first things he wanted work on is to get a scheme to fit D. Carr's talents so he has best chance to succeed.

This is what JG should have done with Dak after 2016 season instead of still running the "Romo friendly" offense in 2017.
I just read Stephen Jones saying that they will try to get the offense to be more Dak friendly and move away from Romo's offense next year. Year too late.

This is crazy. You wanted to change the offense after a 13-3 season? Why? Tweak it yes, but over haul the offense completely? Easier to say now obviously.

 

[kskboys]

Like dog training or training a monkey?

Has he gotten past the not eating poopy part yet?

 

[Bleedblue1111]

I'd hire Jim Schwartz to be the head coach over Jason Garrett.

I know tha he would get the most out of this team's defense and I trust him to hire a capable offensive coordinator. As an added bonus, he already knows not to hire Scott Linehan again!

This would weaken a team in the division, and it would tick off a lot of Eagle fans. Swartz is a really decent candidate. If they did bring in a defensive head coach, yes it would be wise to bring in a really good OC and QB coach.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

Has he gotten past the not eating poopy part yet?

Lol

 

[CowboyRoy]

.... we hate on JG, some more than others. Some even clamored for Jon Gruden. Why? Gruden took a team built by Dungy and staff to 1 SB (the year of the inheritance) then nothing. In fact Gruden, in his career as a HC Gruden's teams were a combined 14 games over .500. Pretty much the same as JG coached teams with 12.

Fact, JG coached teams are 12 games over .500 over the past 8 years as a HC. 10 games over .500 if you throw out 2010. Only a handful of coaches and teams have had a better W/L record over the past seven years. Those teams are NE, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Seattle, Baltimore, Denver, New Orleans. There are 20 or so teams who have had fewer wins than the Cowboys over those 7 years.

I don't know about the majority of Cowboy fans but that tells me that HC changes rarely change a teams W/L record. If it did, 20 or so teams would have a better W/L record than JG coached teams over the past 7 seasons because most of them have had at least one HC'ing change.

Discuss among yourselves

Wow! just wow!

Is this the first time on this site?

 

[Mad_max]

Has he gotten past the not eating poopy part yet?

Lets hope. Heard that Jerry tells the coaches who to throw to and what plays to run. That is why Jerry likes Garrett.