Dak tops in tight window throws

[G2]

As long as he doesn't get in trouble for throwing at windows.

 

[percyhoward]

It is a two way street. When a QB lacks anticipation, he is not throwing at the optimum point in the receivers break that creates the most separation, which also limits RAC. It follows that if you need to see the receiver open, the receiver has lost that edge and given the defensive back time to close. So even when you complete the pass, your throws appear to be “tight window”... when a pass thrown a split second earlier might have been wide open with a chance for a big RAC. There are many factors that go into receivers not getting separation.

A QB who was consistently late would simply have more tight-window attempts, he wouldn't lead the NFL in passer rating on these attempts.

Dak ranked 12th in tight-window attempts as a percentage of total attempts.

 

[blindzebra]

A QB who was consistently late would simply have more tight-window attempts, he wouldn't lead the NFL in passer rating on these attempts.

Dak ranked 12th in tight-window attempts as a percentage of total attempts.

No fair presenting facts, doesn't work any better on Dak haters then it does on Dez didn't catch it people.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

A QB who was consistently late would simply have more tight-window attempts, he wouldn't lead the NFL in passer rating on these attempts.

Dak ranked 12th in tight-window attempts as a percentage of total attempts.

Sure he would.... if he’s generating completions on easy throws that the average quarterback would complete early enough to not get the “tight window” classification... then he’s padding his rating in that category. Meanwhile the average quarterback likely has a much lower rating on true “tight window” throws because it doesn’t include the cheapies picked up by Dak (or whoever) and instead is actually hard throws.
Of course, I don’t see any reason to think that it is more or less impressive to complete a tight window throw in the first place, at least by the definition laid out by this stat. It seems better used as a way of examine a pass offense, not determine QB skill.

 

[Idgit]

Most of his dropoff was concentrated in four games.

with Smith/Martin (11 games)
212 of 338 (63%) 2464 yd (7.3 ypa) 21 td 6 int 98.0

without: (4 games)
79 of 122 (65%) 681 yd (5.6 ypa) 0 td 7 int 55.4

I think the passer rating is so high on his tight window throws because of TD:INT. Basically, many of his TD were thrown into tight windows, and not many of the INT were. His passer rating to Dez was actually higher on the tight window throws (88.2) than on all throws combined (71.4), I think for the same reason.

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Thanks. This makes sense.

 

[percyhoward]

Sure he would.... if he’s generating completions on easy throws that the average quarterback would complete early enough to not get the “tight window” classification... then he’s padding his rating in that category. Meanwhile the average quarterback likely has a much lower rating on true “tight window” throws because it doesn’t include the cheapies picked up by Dak (or whoever) and instead is actually hard throws.

How else can I put this? Every QB who is late with his throws doesn't lead the NFL in passer rating on tight-window throws.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

How else can I put this? Every QB who is late with his throws doesn't lead the NFL in passer rating on tight-window throws.

lol... how do you know exactly? We don’t even know if Dak is late with his throws. It’s just speculation.

 

[percyhoward]

lol... how do you know exactly? We don’t even know if Dak is late with his throws. It’s just speculation.

Well it's sure not logic.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Word KD....good point.

 

[LocimusPrime]

I feel ya Justin. Can't say nada or they will stone you

 

[LocimusPrime]

I think Dak is alright. This season will be a telling one, I pray he turns it around. Go cowboys!

 

[Beast_from_East]

Why is Dak's accuracy even an issue?

Did Dak himself tell Colin Cowherd that the number one thing he was going to work on in the offseason was his accuracy?

Now do you work on something that is already good or do you work on something you are having problems with?

Ergo, even Dak is admitting that he has some accuracy issues, so why are posters trying to argue he doesn't?

 

[Verdict]

Dak doesn't really have much of a choice. They insist he throw to Dez who is covered smooth *** up on literally every play.!

 

[Verdict]

I blame the route tree more than the receivers.

I blame Dez and Witten. I know that's quite a surprise.

 

[HungryLion]

Sure he would.... if he’s generating completions on easy throws that the average quarterback would complete early enough to not get the “tight window” classification... then he’s padding his rating in that category. Meanwhile the average quarterback likely has a much lower rating on true “tight window” throws because it doesn’t include the cheapies picked up by Dak (or whoever) and instead is actually hard throws.
Of course, I don’t see any reason to think that it is more or less impressive to complete a tight window throw in the first place, at least by the definition laid out by this stat. It seems better used as a way of examine a pass offense, not determine QB skill.

Of course, you have no proof or evidence that your hypothesis about Dak and tight window throws is correct. It’s just simply you throwing out whatever Bs you can to support your opinion.

 

[erod]

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I'm all about that geometry, you understand.

 

[erod]

Stats like this are silly because they tell such a small percentage of the story.

It's not just the about the throws a quarterback attempts. It's about the throws he doesn't try. It's about the throws he makes INSTEAD of the other throw that was there. It's about WHEN the throw was made. It's about the situation the throw was made or not made. It's about the options that existed when a throw was made or before a throw was made.

Quarterbacking can't be summarized with statistics. Try as they might, the pencil-pushers have never captured the intrinsic nature of the hardest position in professional sports.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Of course, you have no proof or evidence that your hypothesis about Dak and tight window throws is correct. It’s just simply you throwing out whatever Bs you can to support your opinion.

There isn’t any proof for the very concept of this entire thread, save some nerds trying to guesstimate a yard of separation from a TV screen. Sorry if the logic flies over your head, Gabe. I’ll try to dumb it down for you the best I can next time...

 

[percyhoward]

The league put a lot of $$$ into the chips they inserted into players' shoulder pads, (or helmets, brains, wherever they put them) in order to gather this data, and by golly they're gonna use it.

One of the more useful pieces of data the chips gave us this year:
Cole Beasley, average separation
2017 2.4 yards (99th)
2016 3.4 yards (10th)

 

[HungryLion]

There isn’t any proof for the very concept of this entire thread, save some nerds trying to guesstimate a yard of separation from a TV screen. Sorry if the logic flies over your head, Gabe. I’ll try to dumb it down for you the best I can next time...

Actually, the OP of this entire thread simply posted the statistical data. It didn’t state a hypothesis or concept beyond that. So maybe you’re the one that needs things dumbed down for you.

That statistical data didn’t mesh with your agenda, so you then made up some stupid BS to try and explain away the numbers, without actually posting any proof behind your assertion.

Again, the numbers are what they are, you then made a hypothesis trying to discredit the numbers without any proof to back it up. You were called out on it, and again provided no proof for your hypothesis.

You also call into question the methods use to create the statistics, without actually knowing anything about the techniques used to gather the data. Yet you try to preach to others about logic.