Mocking the WRs--post combine

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3/11/18 2pm CST
Updated, out of the 43 so far, here is the tally:

43--Calvin Ridley___(100%)
25--Courtland Sutton___(58%)
19--Christian Kirk___(44%)
10--DJ Moore___(23%)
4--DJ Chark___(9%)
4--James Washington___(9%)
1--Marcell Ateman___(2%)
0--Anthony Miller___(0%)
0--E. St Brown___(0%)



Some mocks were updated and one dropped Miller. So both he and St Brown currently are at zero but have made appearances in the 1st round at one point after the combine...so I'll keep them listed.

A bunch of guys still haven't come out with their first post combine mock.
Some of the notable absences to be coming out soon are : Kiper, Casserly, Davis, and many more higher profile mocks.

In any case, there's still a couple of months to go, so plenty of tweaking to come.
 

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Ateman and Chark have no right to be in the first... those people are reactionary to combine results. I have no problem with the other ones being in the first... but I think there are only 3 that will go in the first. Ridley, Sutton, Moore.
Kirk, Washington, Miller and Chark are round 2 at best.

I like Kirk a lot, he could sneak in to the 1st if NE or Philly wants him. But i think the depth of this class hurts their chances of that
 

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Ateman and Chark have no right to be in the first... those people are reactionary to combine results. I have no problem with the other ones being in the first... but I think there are only 3 that will go in the first. Ridley, Sutton, Moore.
Kirk, Washington, Miller and Chark are round 2 at best.

I like Kirk a lot, he could sneak in to the 1st if NE or Philly wants him. But i think the depth of this class hurts their chances of that
Yeah, just one guy out of 43 had Ateman. probably a pet cat.
I even saw Pettis in the first in a couple of pre-combine mocks. Haven't seen him in the past week though, so he's not on the list with even a 0.

Have to say, Chark is intriguing. Certainly not at 19 though..
 

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Roy Williams was a very good physical talent who had a couple of good years than mailed it in after getting paid.
Roy Wi11iams was a bum that was butt hurt over Fitzgerald being taken before him, then he didn't come close to being worth his draft spot so the lions took Calvin Johnson and fleeced Jerry for more picks that he couldn't live up to. Sutton is just a guy in the mold top WR. He'll be lucky to break 1,000 yards once in his career.
 

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Roy Wi11iams was a bum that was butt hurt over Fitzgerald being taken before him, then he didn't come close to being worth his draft spot so the lions took Calvin Johnson and fleeced Jerry for more picks that he couldn't live up to. Sutton is just a guy in the mold top WR. He'll be lucky to break 1,000 yards once in his career.
that sounds about as rational as most of the Romo haters. Roy Williams had several good years and one great year so he was never a bum.
 

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that sounds about as rational as most of the Romo haters. Roy Williams had several good years and one great year so he was never a bum.
You and I have very different definitions of good and great years; especially as it relates to draft choices.
 

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that sounds about as rational as most of the Romo haters. Roy Williams had several good years and one great year so he was never a bum.
Roy WR Williams? None of them with the Cowboys.

That guy was a loser. I'm remember seeing him just constantly goofing off in training camp.

His stats suck with only one year over 1000 yards and only 2 with over 60 catches.
 

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3/12/18 1:45pm CST
Updated, out of the 45 so far, and some have been further updated recently.
Here is the tally:

45--Calvin Ridley___(100%)
23--Courtland Sutton___(51%)
20--Christian Kirk___(44%)
10--DJ Moore___(22%)
6--DJ Chark___(13%)
5--James Washington___(11%)
1--Marcell Ateman___(2%)
1--Anthony Miller___(20%)
0--E. St Brown___(0%)



The updates are starting to come in on some of these mocks, so 2nd mock post-combine. So while the total number of mocks hasn't changed much, there are additions and subtractions due to updates. Ex. Sutton was dropped from the 1st round by a couple of analysts. Chark and Washington added 1 or 2. Moore lost one and added one.
Ridley still at 100%
 

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3/17/18 7pm CST
Updated, out of the 55 so far, and some have been further updated recently.
Here is the tally:

54--Calvin Ridley___(98%)
30--Courtland Sutton___(55%)
26--Christian Kirk___(47%)
15--DJ Moore___(27%)
5--DJ Chark___(9%)
5--James Washington___(9%)
2-Michael Gallup___(4%)
0--Marcell Ateman___(0%)
0--Anthony Miller___(0%)
0--E. St Brown___(0%)



Ridlyy finally was in a mock where he didn't make the first round. So 54 of 55
Gallup is starting show up some.
DJ Moore (a fav for some in the CowboyZone) is now in the first round in 15 of 55 mocks...so improving some.
 

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I would not be surprised if Sutton is the first WR taken and goes to Chicago at 8th overall. He has more #1 WR traits then the other receivers and he showed he wasn't just some big and slow red zone target. He could be an Alshon Jeffery Clone.
I hope he does. I like DJ Moore
 
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Mocking Chark would be crazy, how? The guy only averaged close to 22 yards per catch last season on a run-first offense with a very average QB, is 6-3, 200, 4.34 40, 40" vert., etc. Blew up the Senior Bowl & followed that up by blowing up the Combine. If the Boys pass him up, I hope a division foe doesn't grab him. He will make them pay twice a year for a long time.
 

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Ridley's game is based on great routes and great play speed. He confirmed the play speed and lateral agility in his 3 cone. He's a guy that's going to win by running great routes and playing fast. To me the combine confirmed what we see in tape and how he wins.

Ridleys size worries me a bit and I'm also not a fan of his age either.

I agree with this on all points. I rank Ridley the #1 WR by a wide margin just because I view him as the safest, seemingly “surest” safe pick. I could see all the rest of the Wrs busting for different reasons but there’s really nothing Ridley doesn’t do very well. That said, I like a lot of the other Wrs like Sutton and Moore but not at 19.
 

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I agree with this on all points. I rank Ridley the #1 WR by a wide margin just because I view him as the safest, seemingly “surest” safe pick. I could see all the rest of the Wrs busting for different reasons but there’s really nothing Ridley doesn’t do very well. That said, I like a lot of the other Wrs like Sutton and Moore but not at 19.
I like your sig draft board
 

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Mocking Chark would be crazy, how? The guy only averaged close to 22 yards per catch last season on a run-first offense with a very average QB, is 6-3, 200, 4.34 40, 40" vert., etc. Blew up the Senior Bowl & followed that up by blowing up the Combine. If the Boys pass him up, I hope a division foe doesn't grab him. He will make them pay twice a year for a long time.
Too many body catches.

Does not look like a smart route runner.

Just "out-athleted" DBs in college.
 

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3/22/18 5:45pm CST
Updated, out of the 70 post combine mocks so far, and some have been further updated recently.
Here is the tally:

69--Calvin Ridley___(99%)
38--Courtland Sutton___(54%)
31--Christian Kirk___(44%)
24--DJ Moore___(34%)
6--DJ Chark___(9%)
6--James Washington___(9%)
2-Michael Gallup___(3%)
1--E. St Brown___(1%)
0--Marcell Ateman___(0%)
0--Anthony Miller___(0%)
 

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3/29/18 11:45am CST

Updated, out of most recent version of the 85 post combine mocks so far,
Here is the tally:

84--Calvin Ridley___(99%)
47--Courtland Sutton___(55%)
32--Christian Kirk___(38%)
32--DJ Moore___(38%)
9--James Washington___(11%)
5--DJ Chark___(6%)
2-Michael Gallup___(2%)
1--E. St Brown___(1%)
0--Marcell Ateman___(0%)
0--Anthony Miller___(0%)
 

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I'm telling you right now, people are sleeping on Michael Gallup. He can play and I think he has a decent chance to become a hell of a good WR in the NFL.
 
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