T.O has a point here regardless of JG success

[Stash]

So you’d listen to TO over any HC that wasn’t HOFamer.

I'll listen to his opinions about this coach.

 

[Diehardblues]

I'll listen to his opinions about this coach.

Of course you will. Lol

 

[Wood]

Been saying this since end of last season. This is a "show me" year for Garrett & Dak. If either or both have bad year they are out.

 

[CATCH17]

What was 2014 and 2016? You don’t go 12-4, 13-3, not even 8-8 or 9-7 without a standard offense, unless you’re conceding JG did a hell of a coaching job those years

They were good regular seasons that amounted to nothing.

Coaches who have won Superbowls have got let go from their team. A good regular season really means nothing over a 8 year period.

 

[Dre11]

They were good regular seasons that amounted to nothing.

The regular season amount for something, because you don’t get a chance to move on if you do nothing in the regular season. You also don’t have those season with bad coaching

 

[DejectedFan1996]

If Dallas struggles this year you will see somewhat of a boycott.


Getting rid of Dez upset the majority of the fan base and the majority of the fan base is done with this coach.

Things will get bad if we don’t put a quality team on the field.

Yep.

Dez was the last straw though I was compelled to buy the draft day fitteds this year.

But those days of me spending 2000 a year on cowboys gear and flying to their games is over

 

[CATCH17]

The regular season amount for something, because you don’t get a chance to move on if you do nothing in the regular season.

The regular season is the bare minimum.

I would hope with our roster he could muster up some winning seasons when he’s coached in 1 spot forever.

Even Marvin Lewis has had some winning seasons. It means nothing.

 

[Diehardblues]

Been saying this since end of last season. This is a "show me" year for Garrett & Dak. If either or both have bad year they are out.

I’m just not sure why we’d speculate as much?

Every indication is we are All In on Dak . He’s probably not going to look any worse than he did last year which they thought he was great, already talking about how big a contract they’re going to offer and barring a collapse Garrett is unlikely fired.

The expectations aren’t as high this year as last year. We aren’t even sure if we’re a playoff team yet. We know we aren’t expected to win division.

Not sure why we believe Jerry is placing any kind of ultimatum on this season like some fans are wanting to?

 

[Dre11]

The regular season is the bare minimum.

I would hope with our roster he could muster up some winning seasons when he’s coached in 1 spot forever.

Even Marvin Lewis has had some winning seasons. It means nothing.

He still have his job too. And what roster? We’ve had terrible depth and no defense for years,

 

[gjkoeppen]

And it wasn’t just the increase which I would have paid. It was the PSL where we couldn’t just walk away.

It’s why there’s so many opposing fans at the games because fans are brokering games to fund their PSL and price of tickets. Plus if your frustrated you can’t just opt out the next year.

The NFL got a case tossed out of the courts over the PSL. I don't remember the particulars of it but there was a group that was trying to take all of the teams at the time that had PSL's, now all 32 teams have it, and the NFL got that tossed out for some reason. The group was going about it like a person goes into a restaurant and then doesn't get a bill for using their chairs to sit on to eat the meal they are paying for. When it went to court I was sure the courts were going to rule PSL were not legal with buying a ticket the assumption being that they also had a place to sit since all tickets have a seat number on them.

As far as the number of opposing fans, every game 40% of the tickets are allocated to the other team. That's why the live gate is split 60%/40% between the 2 teams. The funny thing is there is only like a $12 add on for PSL on those tickets. A lot of fans wait until Friday at 3:00 (for a Sunday game) because all unsold tickets for the opposing team become available for anyone and they only have to pay that $12 for PSL. I have a friend here that does that all of the time. He's asked me if I wanted to with him to a game and I tell him only when the Cowboys come. Unfortunately the last time all of the Cowboys tickets were sold so he couldn't do it.
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[CowboyRoy]

Firing Garrett doesn’t address the solution in finding another puppet for Jerry.

Part of mgmt is not only taking action but making a better decision.

We can all circle the wagons and Lynch a rope on the tree but that’s not resolving our core issue.

Agreed. But getting rid of the puppet is the first step.

 

[gjkoeppen]

The regular season is the bare minimum.

I would hope with our roster he could muster up some winning seasons when he’s coached in 1 spot forever.

Even Marvin Lewis has had some winning seasons. It means nothing.

Yes Lewis has had some winning seasons and hasn't won a playoff game ever and still has a job. Most if all of these fans that say Garrett and/or Prescott have to have big years or they are gone is just a lot of hot disgruntled air and carries no weight.
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[CATCH17]

He still have his job too. And what roster? We’ve had terrible depth and no defense for years,

We’ve had strengths that make us hard to stop offensively.

Whether it was Romo and the passing or the Oline imposing their will.

Depth means nothing. It’s salary cap. Depth is a luxury.

It’s their fault they haven’t had a defense.

8 years. He’s wasted enough time. He can’t get this team to a higher level because he’s nota high level coach.

It was fun arguing about what type of coach he was 8 years ago but now it’s just nothing but excuses for the guy.

A good coach can turn a team around quick in this league. You would think a great coach with 8 years could do a lot. He hasn’t because he’s just not capable of it.

 

[Diehardblues]

The NFL got a case tossed out of the courts over the PSL. I don't remember the particulars of it but there was a group that was trying to take all of the teams at the time that had PSL's, now all 32 teams have it, and the NFL got that tossed out for some reason. The group was going about it like a person goes into a restaurant and then doesn't get a bill for using their chairs to sit on to eat the meal they are paying for. When it went to court I was sure the courts were going to rule PSL were not legal with buying a ticket the assumption being that they also had a place to sit since all tickets have a seat number on them.

As far as the number of opposing fans, every game 40% of the tickets are allocated to the other team. That's why the live gate is split 60%/40% between the 2 teams. The funny thing is there is only like a $12 add on for PSL on those tickets. A lot of fans wait until Friday at 3:00 (for a Sunday game) because all unsold tickets for the opposing team become available for anyone and they only have to pay that $12 for PSL. I have a friend here that does that all of the time. He's asked me if I wanted to with him to a game and I tell him only when the Cowboys come. Unfortunately the last time all of the Cowboys tickets were sold so he couldn't do it.
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That’s the first I’ve heard of 40% allocation of tickets to opposing teams. In Texas Stadium I don’t recall ever seeing more than 5,000 opposing fans. Usually less.

 

[gjkoeppen]

We’ve had strengths that make us hard to stop offensively.

Whether it was Romo and the passing or the Oline imposing their will.

Depth means nothing. It’s salary cap. Depth is a luxury.

It’s their fault they haven’t had a defense.

8 years. He’s wasted enough time. He can’t get this team to a higher level because he’s nota high level coach.

It was fun arguing about what type of coach he was 8 years ago but now it’s just nothing but excuses for the guy.

A good coach can turn a team around quick in this league. You would think a great coach with 8 years could do a lot. He hasn’t because he’s just not capable of it.

Realize it's 2 different eras but the success the Cowboys had in the 90's with their 3 Super Bowl wins in 4 years was due in large part to the depth they had. Even today the teams that do have good depth are the teams that regularly get to the Super Bowl. Yes the cap has a big bearing on depth but other teams are able to find young good talent cheap for depth. Today no team has good depth at every position but they do have good depth at key positions.
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[Mr_437]

T.O, Witten n Ware are HOF...Romo borderline.
Jason Garrett musters up 1 playoff win wit these great players. C'mon mane.

However, I blame Jerry for not firing dude. Business must be good cause Jerry doesn't seem to care about win a SB. Now Jerry n Stephen talk about et, but 1 playoff win th last 8 years...only 2 playoff appearances during that time. Haha I can't believe Jerry nem let th term Super Bowl come out their mouth every year. They really just hustling for money.

 

[Diehardblues]

Agreed. But getting rid of the puppet is the first step.

I’m not sure. It hasn’t worked in a couple of decades?

Cutting a weed off without digging up the root usually doesn’t kill the weed. It will keep coming back.

 

[Dre11]

We’ve had strengths that make us hard to stop offensively.

Whether it was Romo and the passing or the Oline imposing their will.

Depth means nothing. It’s salary cap. Depth is a luxury.

It’s their fault they haven’t had a defense.

8 years. He’s wasted enough time. He can’t get this team to a higher level because he’s nota high level coach.

It was fun arguing about what type of coach he was 8 years ago but now it’s just nothing but excuses for the guy.

A good coach can turn a team around quick in this league. You would think a great coach with 8 years could do a lot. He hasn’t because he’s just not capable of it.

You haven’t paid attention, we’ve never had an offense good enough to carry the entire team, we’ve fielded some of the worst defenses,

Anybody who says depth means nothing, doesn’t know football, injuries happen , depth is a need, Eagles don’t sniff the playoff without great depth last season. You talk about Garrett not being able to field a standard defense, yet Jay Gruden who’s regarded as a great offensive mind has won nothing in 4/5 years.

 

[gjkoeppen]

That’s the first I’ve heard of 40% allocation of tickets to opposing teams. In Texas Stadium I don’t recall ever seeing more than 5,000 opposing fans. Usually less.

That in large part is because of the unsold tickets allocated to the other team that don't get sold by Friday at 3:00 that got bought up by Cowboys fans. Also Jerry used to buy up a lot of them and gave them to kids like disabled kids or the Boys and Girls clubs. I also remember he gave a whole block of them to disabled vets. But that can't happen until 3:00 on Fridays.
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[Diehardblues]

I truly don’t believe Jerry wants another HC who could recieve more credit than him like Jimmy did.

Winning isn’t enough for Jerry if he doesn’t recieve the credit he’s pursuing.