How will Dak's 3rd year turn out?

[Billyd]

Anybody in here know what Daks wl is?

13-3
9-7

22-10

if you would have told me we would have this success at qb, but were whining about him like school girls, i would have said you were crazy..But yes like school girls!

 

[dallasdave]

Let Us Prey...

 

[Billyd]

Eh i dont think we need religon to block in the rg and the passing game!

 

[Kevinicus]

Anybody in here know what Daks wl is?

13-3
9-7

22-10

if you would have told me we would have this success at qb, but were whining about him like school girls, i would have said you were crazy..But yes like school girls!

Teams win or lose, not individual players.

QBs can play greatandd the team still lose. They can also play poorly and the team still wins.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

dear fellow cowboy fanzone freaks--- i will be honest...i personally do not know how Dak's 3rd year as QB will turn out?...i hope he becomes all and more we all hope he will be...but i dont know...do any of you fanzone freaks have a better idea how Dak will do?

thanks for your consideration in this matter
sincerely
GORICO

Not even G-d knows if Dak will bounce back,,, next question.

 

[DiResta]

i noticed in the little ota video from yesterday they just had a very short clip of Dak rolling out and unlike last year he had the ball up tight against his body
always nice to see them working to improve things especially when its something that you hated

 

[BourbonBalz]

This could be a vexing situation: say Dak puts up decent, but not great #'s across the board. Shows some improvement, but nobody is blown away, but the team goes 14-2 and makes the NFCC.
What do you do with him?

I'd be willing to bet a LOT of money that if the team went 14-2 and made the NFCC, Dak would have put up very good numbers. You're not going to accomplish those things with pedestrian QB play.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

SB MVP.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Dak is a game manager...

He was a game manager in college..

He was a game manager his rookie season..

He was a game manager last season..

His QB coach/ guru also helped develop Alex Smith , another game manager..

Tyrod Taylor , Case Keenum , Brandon Weeden , Teddy Bridgewater, are game managers...

Would any one build their franchise around them? (while paying them 25 mil a year) of course not.

They are stop gap / backup type of players.

Unless Dak learns how to put the team on his back while things aren't perfect he will not get a second contract here.

In this salary cap era , you commit football suicide if you pay a "game manager" 25 mil a year...

I would love to have Dak at 10 -15 mil a year but does anybody think that "the greatest QB in cowboys history" will take that deal ? Ha!

I would rather draft another low round QB and hand the ball off 40 times a game and tell the young QB "Only throw the ball when the receiver is wideopen, we don't care about yards or TDs , your only job is to not lose the game."

I guarantee you that whoever that rookie QB is will have "the best rookie season" because his QBR will go through the roof by only making safe easy throws..

LOL. Dak was anything BUT a game manager in college. You must not watch much SEC football. He WAS the Miss. St. offense.

 

[BourbonBalz]

I would not sign Prescott to a long term deal at all no matter what happens. do what the Commanders did with cousins. wait and see.

Yeah, that worked out so well for the Foreskins. LOL They lost their franchise QB and now have an aging QB that has never accomplished anything.

 

[Doomsday101]

Teams win or lose, not individual players.

QBs can play greatandd the team still lose. They can also play poorly and the team still wins.

Rarely does the QB play bad and teams wins. I do agree winning and losing is a team endeavor but poor play from a QB will lose you games a lot quicker. Dak had some bad games in his 2nd year but so have other QB even big name vet QB. Dak is not some seasoned pro with years of experience he was a 2nd year QB.

 

[Kevinicus]

Rarely does the QB play bad and teams wins. I do agree winning and losing is a team endeavor but poor play from a QB will lose you games a lot quicker. Dak had some bad games in his 2nd year but so have other QB even big name vet QB. Dak is not some seasoned pro with years of experience he was a 2nd year QB.

I agree that more QBs play well and the team loses than QBs play bad and the team still wins. Bad play by the QB is very hard to overcome. Mediocre play, on the other hand, wins quite a few games in this league. A lot of the time that is because the other team isn't that good. Sometimes it's because the defense, etc. make up for the deficiencies. But you could also say that a win for a bad team with a great QB is also fairly rare. Drew Brees knows all about that.

 

[xwalker]

LOL. Dak was anything BUT a game manager in college. You must not watch much SEC football. He WAS the Miss. St. offense.

Most people don't really even watch Cowboys games. They have the TV on and see the big plays but most don't watch the details or ever review the games.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree that more QBs play well and the team loses than QBs play bad and the team still wins. Bad play by the QB is very hard to overcome. Mediocre play, on the other hand, wins quite a few games in this league. A lot of the time that is because the other team isn't that good. Sometimes it's because the defense, etc. make up for the deficiencies. But you could also say that a win for a bad team with a great QB is also fairly rare. Drew Brees knows all about that.

As I have said, Dak is still a young and developing QB, he is not some established vet QB. Then again if you look at many of the top QB and their 1st 2 season in the NFL they were not great either. It is not an easy position to play and seldom do guys come out in their 1st 2 season playing HOF type football. 100% promise you that when Brady retires he will be 1st ballot HOF'er yet look at his 1st 2 seasons they were not great by any means and no better than Dak today. Having said that I am not saying Dak will ever be as great as Brady, what I am saying is if it took time for a QB like Brady to be as great as he is then why would anyone think it would be easier for Dak? He has work to do and thankfully has the work ethic to give himself a chance to develop into a quality QB, time will tell.

 

[Kevinicus]

As I have said, Dak is still a young and developing QB, he is not some established vet QB. Then again if you look at many of the top QB and their 1st 2 season in the NFL they were not great either. It is not an easy position to play and seldom do guys come out in their 1st 2 season playing HOF type football. 100% promise you that when Brady retires he will be 1st ballot HOF'er yet look at his 1st 2 seasons they were not great by any means and no better than Dak today. Having said that I am not saying Dak will ever be as great as Brady, what I am saying is if it took time for a QB like Brady to be as great as he is then why would anyone think it would be easier for Dak? He has work to do and thankfully has the work ethic to give himself a chance to develop into a quality QB, time will tell.

Unfortunately, I think Dak lacks some necessary traits that work ethic won't make up for.

 

[VACowboy]

3620, 25 and 8.
437 and 7 on the ground.

 

[Doomsday101]

Unfortunately, I think Dak lacks some necessary traits that work ethic won't make up for.

I don't, at times he has issues with his footwork and that can cause balls to sail or be behind the intended target but footwork can be addressed and corrected. I think the biggest trait of any top QB is his thought process under pressure, to be able to make the quick decisions under pressure and make the throw, to know when to ditch it or take the risk, or as I call it the 6 inches between the ears. You find out as Johnson once said, it is not how many great plays you make it is how many bad plays you avoid that will normally determine the outcome of a game

 

[Kevinicus]

I don't, at times he has issues with his footwork and that can cause balls to sail or be behind the intended target but footwork can be addressed and corrected. I think the biggest trait of any top QB is his thought process under pressure, to be able to make the quick decisions under pressure and make the throw, to know when to ditch it or take the risk, or as I call it the 6 inches between the ears. You find out as Johnson once said, it is not how many great plays you make it is how many bad plays you avoid that will normally determine the outcome of a game

It's the 6 inches part I am most worried about. Mechanics less so. Those can be fixed.

 

[Doomsday101]

It's the 6 inches part I am most worried about. Mechanics less so. Those can be fixed.

I'm not, that is one area I think Dak can handle. He showed great poise his rookie season, frankly better than most rookie QB I have watched over the years and a lot of vets. I think his biggest mistake this past season was locking in on Dez, he went from 90 targets in 2016 to 132 in his 2nd year. Get back to finding the open man and if it is not there throw it away or if their is room to run go pick up the yards. This approach has worked damn well for Russell Wilson which in my own view Dak reminds me of. Both QB rely on a very good rushing attack, the one thing Wilson has that Dak has not is a great defense who can get the ball back into the hands of the offense.

 

[Kevinicus]

I'm not, that is one area I think Dak can handle. He showed great poise his rookie season, frankly better than most rookie QB I have watched over the years and a lot of vets. I think his biggest mistake this past season was locking in on Dez, he went from 90 targets in 2016 to 132 in his 2nd year. Get back to finding the open man and if it is not there throw it away or if their is room to run go pick up the yards. This approach has worked damn well for Russell Wilson which in my own view Dak reminds me of. Both QB rely on a very good rushing attack, the one thing Wilson has that Dak has not is a great defense who can get the ball back into the hands of the offense.

I think it's a myth he locked onto Dez. A big reason for a jump in targets is because Dez played 16 games. Another reason is a lot of those plays were throw aways.

But, there is a lot that goes into that 6 inch between the ears. He can be strong in some areas there, but weak in others. Poise is nice (which I think there are different aspects of poise also, some he is not as good at), but other things are more important. Willingness to work hard is great too, but my concern goes back to the football ability between his ears. His ability to see the field, to anticipate, pocket presence. Things he is either going to have or not have. I don't think he can be what anyone wants him to be without those things, and I don't think they are things he can learn and get better at with hard work. He can get better at reading defenses, he can improve his mechanics, he can get mentally tougher, but that will not make him see the field or anticipate, and it will not make his arm stronger (the physical trait I do have concerns about).