Dooley being our WRC is another stain on Garrett’s abilities

[Idgit]

Of course not. For you it’s another feather in his cap.

We really going to play a game where every improvement is an indictment of Garrett for not improving sooner, and every area where he maintains the status quo is an indictment of his ability to draw a coach who’d be an improvement? Cuz that seems like a fairly stupid game to play.

Never mind. Answered my own question.

 

[CowboyRoy]

We really going to play a game where every improvement is an indictment of Garrett for not improving sooner, and every area where he maintains the status quo is an indictment of his ability to draw a coach who’d be an improvement? Cuz that seems like a fairly stupid game to play.

Never mind. Answered my own question.

The bigger question is:

Are you capable of critiquing Garrett? Does your love for him blind you?

Never mind I answered my own question.

Dooley was obviously a big problem with the receivers He was here for 5 years. So whos fault would it be that he wasnt replaced sooner? Sanji is already having an incredible effect on the receivers. Why did careers have to be wasted while Garrett the horrid twiddles his thumbs and allowed Dooley to do nothing here?

 

[Idgit]

The bigger question is:

Are you capable of critiquing Garrett? Does your love for him blind you?

Never mind I answered my own question.

Dooley was obviously a big problem with the receivers He was here for 5 years. So whos fault would it be that he wasnt replaced sooner? Sanji is already having an incredible effect on the receivers. Why did careers have to be wasted while Garrett the horrid twiddles his thumbs and allowed Dooley to do nothing here?

I’ve criticized Garret in several more serious versions of threads like this one. Don’t put it on me that you can’t accept that fact.

But yeah, I think it’s a dumb argument to suggest the hiring of a potentially good position coach is an indictment of the head coach. The kind of argument people make when they have an agenda in search of validation.

 

[408Cowboy]

I’ve criticized Garret in several more serious versions of threads like this one. Don’t put it on me that you can’t accept that fact.

But yeah, I think it’s a dumb argument to suggest the hiring of a potentially good position coach is an indictment of the head coach. The kind of argument people make when they have an agenda in search of validation.

I think the argument is that he let the previous coach hang around so long before replacing him.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I’ve criticized Garret in several more serious versions of threads like this one. Don’t put it on me that you can’t accept that fact.

But yeah, I think it’s a dumb argument to suggest the hiring of a potentially good position coach is an indictment of the head coach. The kind of argument people make when they have an agenda in search of validation.

Its just higher standards buddy, nothing more. You are clapping with joy simply because Garrett finally did something good by hiring a real WR coach. But if you look into the situation you have to wonder why this clown Dooley was here for 5 years. How could Garrett let that guy coach his receivers for 5 years? The sky had to basically fall on Garretts head with the passing game for him to either realize, or do something about it. But I get it, your just happy he actually FINALLY got it.

I expect more from my head coach. Its one of the big issues with Garrett. He is always behind the curve instead of ahead of it. He is a poser, a copy cat. No original ideas of his own. He is sub standard.

Only someone with low standards would defend employing Dooley for 5 years. Even the receivers are cutting up Dooley saying he did nothing here. Then we all saw him babying Dez and how poorly he handled that. Dez is out of a job partly because Dooley didnt do his job correctly.

What is more ridiculous? My constant bashing of the Garrett or your consistent defense of him? If there is anyone with an agenda its you. Just look at your signature. It speaks for itself.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Beaze is not a rookie, T_Will is not a rookie, Hurns is not a rookie, if these guys need someone to teach them how to run routes then there is something wrong! I can see them teaching a rookie how it is done in the NFL but when you have been around for 5 plus years you should know how!

schemes are different buddy. And coaches teach technique differently. Its about getting everyone on the same page with timing and exactly how the scheme runs the routes. A little more complicated than you lay it out to be.

But I agree to an extent on the running routes thing. How can you go through college and still not run good routes?

 

[buybuydandavis]

How is this guy your WRC for 5 years and he’s not teaching them route running? How do you miss that? Where is the disconnect?

Also recall Butler saying "the coaches don't coach".

Garrett is *not* a game day manager. He's not a genius of the X's and O's.

I thought he was at least a competent middle management manager. That he ran the coaches properly. "Process", right?

It's not looking that way. That's a big hit against him in my mind. If he's not even an adequate manager of the coaches under him, I struggle to find a positive to associate with him.

We've done much better acquiring players and not overpaying. Is that Garrett? I wouldn't think so.

What's his positive contribution to the team?

 

[Idgit]

I think the argument is that he let the previous coach hang around so long before replacing him.

Yeah. But his argument that Dooley was a bad coach is based on his presumption that Lal is a good one because of a quote from Beasley about route running. It ignores the fact that we’ve had a very effective passing offense for years now without spending significant resources on players other than Dez.

There were puff pieces about Dooley and his downfield blocking when he first got here and replaced Robinson, too.

 

[Idgit]

What is more ridiculous? My constant bashing of the Garrett or your consistent defense of him? If there is anyone with an agenda its you. Just look at your signature. It speaks for itself.

Your constant and baseless bashing. Is this a trick question?

I didn’t start a thread about about Lal being a feather in Jason Garrett’s cap. Maybe that’s a hint about where the agenda lies. All I did was answer the question *you* asked.

 

[RoboQB]

Too much looking in the rear view mirror. Not enough looking through the windshield.

It's a new day. It's a new dawn.

 

[Buzzbait]

How is this guy your WRC for 5 years and he’s not teaching them route running?
How do you miss that? Where is the disconnect?

You asked "How do you miss that?".........That's a good question. Garrett is an ex-QB, how could an ex-QB not understand the importance of teaching proper route running?

 

[408Cowboy]

Also recall Butler saying "the coaches don't coach".

Garrett is *not* a game day manager. He's not a genius of the X's and O's.

I thought he was at least a competent middle management manager. That he ran the coaches properly. "Process", right?

It's not looking that way. That's a big hit against him in my mind. If he's not even an adequate manager of the coaches under him, I struggle to find a positive to associate with him.

We've done much better acquiring players and not overpaying. Is that Garrett? I wouldn't think so.

What's his positive contribution to the team?

Isn't he supposed to be the walk around coach? What the hell is he doing while walking?

 

[Captain-Crash]

I love Garrett he's awesome, but I did see that one gif of him trying to slap the players hands and missed everyone of them.. Dang loser. He can clap his own hands but can't slap a players hands.
Oh yeah it's "jerry's" fault.. the """agenda""" lol

 

[TheDude]

Yeah. But his argument that Dooley was a bad coach is based on his presumption that Lal is a good one because of a quote from Beasley about route running. It ignores the fact that we’ve had a very effective passing offense for years now without spending significant resources on players other than Dez.

There were puff pieces about Dooley and his downfield blocking when he first got here and replaced Robinson, too.

Dooley is and has been a failure at every level. I posted numerous articles from his time at Tenn where he banned former players from addressing the team. He never took fault, never made any player better and is only where he is because of his daddy. He likes to hear himself talk and make obscure analogies to remind you he has a law degree.

Useless football personnel

 

[Aviano90]

If you are a pro football player (WR/TE) and you need someone to teach you how to run routes then you should not be playing the game!

Lol. (Lack of) player development has been a complaint for many years. I think the Cowboys may agree with you and believe players should know how to do what they were drafted to do. Player development is overrated.

@Rockport — don’t want you to miss this.

 

[dfense]

So if the receiving sucks this year.....

 

[Diehardblues]

So if the receiving sucks this year.....

Don’t blame it on Dak is the spin being presented in this thread.

 

[Stash]

We really going to play a game where every improvement is an indictment of Garrett for not improving sooner, and every area where he maintains the status quo is an indictment of his ability to draw a coach who’d be an improvement? Cuz that seems like a fairly stupid game to play.

Never mind. Answered my own question.

What "game" would you prefer to play? The one where every glaring mistake gets ignored and glossed over or we pretended it didn't happen?

The "stupid game" would be the one where people try to cover things up.

 

[CyberB0b]

Sanji is already having an incredible effect on the receivers. Why did careers have to be wasted while Garrett the horrid twiddles his thumbs and allowed Dooley to do nothing here?

His name is Sanjay. How can you say he is having an incredible effect on the receivers, when they haven't even played a preseason game? I'm not a Derek Dooley fan by any means, but tone down the hyperbole.

Here's some facts:

During his time, the Cowboys offense ranked in the top 5 in the NFL in Points per Game (2014,2016); Total Yards (2016); Pass yards per Play (2014, 2016); 3rd Down Conversion Percentage (2014); Red Zone Conversion Percentage (2014, 2016); and Goal to Go Percentage (2014, 2016). In 2016, the Cowboys offense set an NFL record 8 consecutive games of 400-plus total net yards.[3]

Under Dooley’s tutelage, Dez Bryant was selected to his only three Pro Bowls of his career, and in 2014 was named 1st Team All-Pro. In that same year, Bryant set the Dallas Cowboys record for most touchdowns in a season.[3]

Dooley’s tenure also includes the development of Terrance Williams and undrafted free agent Cole Beasley. Williams is #7 in the NFL in Yards per reception from 2013-2016, and is ranked #5 in Cowboys history in touchdowns in first four seasons.

Beasley was ranked as the most reliable slot receiver by Pro Football Focus. [14]He ranked top 5 in the NFL in Catch Percentage (2014, 2016) and 3rd Down Receiving (2016).[3]

 

[Stash]

I’ve criticized Garret in several more serious versions of threads like this one. Don’t put it on me that you can’t accept that fact.

But yeah, I think it’s a dumb argument to suggest the hiring of a potentially good position coach is an indictment of the head coach. The kind of argument people make when they have an agenda in search of validation.

How about the other half of that equation? The one where an unqualified guy was given and held a job he wasn't qualified for over several years?

I'm every bit as excited about Sanjay Lal coaching the receivers as anyone. But that doesn't mean I'm required to be blinded over the "Dooley debacle" and the man responsible for hiring him.