I have Dak ranked 3rd in 2018 NFC East QBs

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If you think Alex Smith is overrated then why is Nick Foles #2? He's more overrated IMO.
 

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1. Carson Wentz: clearly he is on the path to becoming the next Aaron Rodgers assuming his health holds up and last year's setback doesn't impede his path to greatness. He is an elite QB in every way and the Eagles moved up to draft the best NFC QB of this generation in the NFL.

2. Nick Foles: Impossible to argue with his incredible Eagles resume, from the ridiculous 2013 season in which he was the second best QB in the league (after taking over at 3-5 for a washed up Vick, he led the team to a 10-6 season) only because Peyton Manning had an NFL-record season -- to his virtuoso Super Bowl MVP 2017-18 playoff campaign which also included an absolute obliteration of the NFL's best defense in 2017, the Vikings. Foles may not be the mobile guy who can execute crazy throws on the run and scramble for big yards like Wentz, but he's a very accurate and clutch pocket passer with great presence and awareness. Also an easy guy to root for.

3. Dak Prescott: After an absolutely stellar rookie campaign, he had an average 2017 season, but that wasn't entirely his fault. Without his running mate nearly half the season, a broken offensive line and a top WR and TE on their last legs, Dak didn't have nearly enough help for him to achieve in 2017. This year, he has a plethora of good-enough receivers, the best back in the league is back 100%, the line should be dominant, and the offense should be very favorable to him. Barring injury, he will bounce back in a big way in 2018.

4. Eli Manning: Certainly, 2017 was a big-time down year for the two-time Super Bowl MVP and champion, but his pedigree, clutchness and hard-won experience gives him the edge over the last player on this list. Manning had arguably the worst offensive line in 2017, no running game, and a defense that could no longer consistently hold up their end of the bargain. With the addition of Nate Solder, Aaron Hernandez and Saquon Barkley, Manning should finally have competent enough pieces around him to make him not look like a broken down version of himself in 2018. They're still trotting out Ereck Flowers but at right tackle, however with the gauntlet of left side edge rushers in the division this could still be a large issue.

5. Alex Smith: One of the most overrated quarterbacks in the league, not merely currently but for a long time. The man tries hard and he protects the football, but he's definitely not an ideal franchise guy by any standards. His throw power is consistently among the worst in the league among starters (no secret) and he's certainly not the QB you want on your side if you're trailing. He's a cerebral player, a very solid bus driver and a nice front runner. Plays very well with the lead. His west coast throws are pinpoint accurate, but flooding the box and flats causes his offense to struggle. Sure, he might occasionally hit a big play if he has the right artillery around him (the Commanders don't at the moment) but his timidness and lack of an NFL arm make him only the fifth-best starting quarterback in the 2018 NFC East.

Its not really an fair comparison. You simply cant compare two 2nd year QB's to guys like Eli that have been in the league and won SB's. If you mean future, then its Wenzt and DAk. But neither of those two do we really know their ceiling yet.
 

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-Wentz didnt win squat
-Foles isn't even a starter and rode a situational coat tail
-eli is laughable right now
-smith is the true QB manager

Technically Dak is the best QB in the east hands down.


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If you think Alex Smith is overrated then why is Nick Foles #2? He's more overrated IMO.

Dude is Super Bowl MVP, has thrown 7 TDs in a game, has gone 3-1 in the post season with the highest career playoff passer rating. At some point you just got to call him good.
 

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Dude is Super Bowl MVP, has thrown 7 TDs in a game, has gone 3-1 in the post season with the highest career playoff passer rating. At some point you just got to call him good.
He was good in the playoffs. Sort of like Eli who had 2 good runs and has been mediocre elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that. They stepped up when it counted.
 

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At this point it’s a toss up with the order of the QBs. We will know by seasons end how it will look.

I can’t get on the Foles bandwagon. It’s not like he looked all world before the Playoffs. Alex Smith if anything has been consistent, and he doesn’t have Harbaugh, or Ried. Wentz is hurt and who knows how he will look coming back. Eli well I think his arm is pretty much done at this point, and unless they reinvent the passing game to a more wco style it’s going to be difficult for him. So imo it’s Dak spot to lose and I’m not his biggest fan.
 

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Being able to step up when it counts is pretty dang impressive.
 

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Dak has been impressive with a healthy 77. That really makes all the difference!
 

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Dude is Super Bowl MVP, has thrown 7 TDs in a game, has gone 3-1 in the post season with the highest career playoff passer rating. At some point you just got to call him good.

He had 1 solid season and he had a great team around him in the playoffs. And don't talk about SB MVP's, Eli has won it twice. Is he better than Peyton since he only has 1?
 

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Dude is Super Bowl MVP, has thrown 7 TDs in a game, has gone 3-1 in the post season with the highest career playoff passer rating. At some point you just got to call him good.

He caught a hot streak imo. He was not that good before the playoffs. I’d have my doubts giving that guy big money. JMO I think Foles is overrated around here, nobody prior to the playoffs considered Foles anything but a backup.
 

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He had 1 solid season and he had a great team around him in the playoffs. And don't talk about SB MVP's, Eli has won it twice. Is he better than Peyton since he only has 1?

Why even bring up Peyton? I was only saying he was ‘good’ compared to your ‘over-rated’. If Foles is over-rated, what is Dak?
 

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Wentz probably wins MVP if he stays healthy, he's better than Dak. Although he could have a rough 2018, he tore his ACL in December and probably won't be 100% for the regular season. I don't know what to make of Foles, he was great in the playoff run and in 2013, but he's had some really low points too. Not sure how much of that is due to Jeff Fisher being the worst coach in history.
Eli sucks, Dak's clearly better. Smith made strides last year, who knows if he can keep that up. I have him right around Dak.
So to me Dak's probably the second or third best QB in the NFC East, depending on how Smith adjusts to life on another new roster

Dak out gunned smith when they played and wentz still hasn't done anything regardless of injury....tough luck.
 

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Ok since you guys are so hung up on stats lets see how each teams current receivers faired last year..

Dallas
Hurns 484 yrds 2 td's
williams 568 yrds 0 td's
Beasley 314 yrds 4tds

Commanders
Richardson 703 yrds 6 td'd
Crowder 789 yrds 3 td'd
Doctson 502 yrds 6td's

Thats not even including Vernon Davis,Chris thompson,Or even Reed...So your claim is laughable
I wish Chris Thompson could stay healthy and go to another team. He could be a damn stud.
 

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It’s amazing how many here selectively forgot that three game stretch Dak had where he was so bad he was worse than ANY QB IN THE HISORY OF THE FRANCHISE! LMAO!!!
How is it even possible to be worse than such luminaries as Chad Hutchinson, and Ryan Leaf! On this board it’s like it never happened! Does Jerry have a Men In Black style memory cleanser? lol.
 

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lol, no he's not. Dak is more accurate than him. :huh: And that's even with Dak having a down year accuracy wise. Other than a strong arm, he hasn't shown anything he is on Rodgers level.

Hey Jim stay away from Paris Hotel rooms man......
 

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1. Only lows came under Fisher? That’s not true. His last season with the eagles, while still playing for Chip Kelly, he was terrible. He also wasn’t any good as a rookie either.

So, like I said. Very inconsistent.

2. If you want to counter with Jeff Fisher, then people could easily counter with Jason Garrett....
Incorrect

His stats weren't gaudy like in 2013, had some unfortunate tip picks early that year, but he was solid in 2014 before he went down with the broken collarbone. The team was 7-2 when he went down and they were well on their way to a battle to week 17 with us for the division crown and at worst the #5 seed. But then Dirty Sanchez was forced to play and their season went down the toilet. Foles' last snap as an Eagle (until 2017) was the gruesome injury play in 2014.
 

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Dak has been impressive with a healthy 77. That really makes all the difference!

So if our LT get injured Dak is worthless is this what your trying to say bud?
 

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He caught a hot streak imo. He was not that good before the playoffs. I’d have my doubts giving that guy big money. JMO I think Foles is overrated around here, nobody prior to the playoffs considered Foles anything but a backup.
I still do.

Hostetler won a super bowl for the Gnats in the same situation. Backup.
 

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Right now I'd probably go-
#1- Wentz. He has the best arm talent, elite potential (think of the Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Brees type QBs).
#2- Smith (He's actually a solid QB, protects the ball and has been to a NFC title game that they should have won.
#3- Dak. With the right pieces around him he has shown an ability to produce at a high level.
He is like Alex Smith in that he does a good job protecting the ball, has plenty of mobility.
He's like an Alex Smith Jr. right now, IMO.
I don't think he's reached his ceiling yet, which I think might be somewhere between Alex Smith and Russell Wilson.
Can he improve how he performs when his supporting cast has a couple of injuries?
That will determine if he is a bus driver or a franchise QB. JMO. I like him.
4- Foles- He looked really good in the playoffs.
He also had the luxury of an absolutely nasty defense and a great OL, two very nice RBs and good skill players- Ertz, Jeffery, Agular, Smith, Burton, ect. And a fine coach.
He can thrive in a good situation.
5- Eli- Once a very nice QB, he just seems like a shell of his former self.
 
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