Excuses are for the pretenders

[ConstantReboot]

Neither Jerry or Garrett made any public comments regarding injuries or Zeke’s suspension...especially in the form of an excuse. Fans and media may have, but the guys on the top of the ladder made ZERO excuses.

They may or may not have. Thats the problem. The media and others are making excuses and it making them comfortable. Because of that they don't seem like they need to change and that everything is fine and dandy.

 

[ConstantReboot]

If you are going to do a deduction then you need to learn what mutually exclusive means and when or not it applies. You can think he was a reach but that does not mean that he also could not be a backup tackle. He played well in 2016 for 2 games in that role too.

As for Murray, he was 27, the age RB usually decline, and wanted big money. They chose not to resign him. He has been hurt, cut again since, and still unsigned now. You can call it whatever you want but it showed their foresight was right.

I guess you would have preferred that they reach for running backs in 2015.

Yes Green was a reach. In fact, we didn't need to draft a tackle then. Let alone a one that was injured.

If we didn't sign for Murray we should have drafted a runningback. As you recall they were willing to have Randle as our starter that year. That to me was silly and stupid especially when your strength was running the ball.

We didn't need to pick Gregory in the 2nd round. If we would have gone runningback in the 2nd we could have gotten Tevin Coleman. We also could have gotten a runningback in the 3rd. Ajayi was still available. Both Tevin Coleman and Ajayi are productive runningbacks still today. What has Gregory done for us lately? NOTHING! How was that Chaz Green selection? BAD. BOTH ARE BUST!

For a team who's strength was running the ball, and a very deep draft for runningback draft then, Dallas failed miserably. They went on to select Zeke in the 4th round because they finally wised-up and did the right thing.

So just stop talking like Chaz Green was a good pick. He sucks and Dallas messed up. Foresight my butt!

 

[Aviano90]

Accountability for every play. Every decision. And the aggregate of all. Winning doesn't mean you did everything right. Losing doesn't mean you did everything wrong.

Not talking about accountability in that manner. When you blame something else for a failure it is an excuse instead of just taking accountability for the action. And like I said earlier, most of the times it is the fans who make the excuses as they try to shield their favorite player or coach from any criticism.

Example: Dez needs to drop fewer passes. Instead of just wanting Dez to drop fewer passes you get all the excuses - Dak was inaccurate and it is hard for Dez to concentrate. Dez was injured. Weeden and Cassel made him suck, the ball needs to be 2 inches above the defenders helmet, etc.

All those reasons given to avoid agreeing that Dez needs to catch the balls he should catch. That lack of placing accountability on Dez makes those reasons excuses. Maybe all those reasons would be good if you’re discussing how Dez can become more productive, but they aren’t good when trying to deflect blame from him for his mistakes.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes Green was a reach. In fact, we didn't need to draft a tackle then. Let alone a one that was injured.

If we didn't sign for Murray we should have drafted a runningback. As you recall they were willing to have Randle as our starter that year. That to me was silly and stupid especially when your strength was running the ball.

We didn't need to pick Gregory in the 2nd round. If we would have gone runningback in the 2nd we could have gotten Tevin Coleman. We also could have gotten a runningback in the 3rd. Ajayi was still available. Both Tevin Coleman and Ajayi are productive runningbacks still today. What has Gregory done for us lately? NOTHING! How was that Chaz Green selection? BAD. BOTH ARE BUST!

For a team who's strength was running the ball, and a very deep draft for runningback draft then, Dallas failed miserably. They went on to select Zeke in the 4th round because they finally wised-up and did the right thing.

So just stop talking like Chaz Green was a good pick. He sucks and Dallas messed up. Foresight my butt!

Parnell had just signed with Jax. Try again.

i never said or acting like he was a good pick.

And DE was a need in 2015 just as RB was. And lol Tevin Coleman, he could not beat out a 4th round pick. Sure Gregory has been suspended but Coleman wasn't going to be the answer. Ajayi has a bad meniscus that presented a severe risk which caused him to drop.

They did target Johnson in the third but the Cards snagged him.

I do like how you choose to whine about the 2015 draft when it has nothing to do with the whole proactive discussion. Fact is that the team should not have signed Murray. His last few years make that very clear. it seems you have issues letting things go as this seems like a well practiced diatribe.

 

[DHCBF66]

I’m sick of the excuses. As fans we should stop repeating some of Jerry’s excuses on these boards. If this team again fails to make the playoffs, or loses early in the playoffs, there should be ZERO excuses. This team has enough talent to make some noise this year.

But yet, here ya go!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

They may or may not have. Thats the problem. The media and others are making excuses and it making them comfortable. Because of that they don't seem like they need to change and that everything is fine and dandy.

how would you know how it makes them feel? And since when do athletes care about what random fans think? i do find it amusing that you think the DFW media makes excuses for the team or gives them a pass in any way shape or form.

 

[Rockport]

Not talking about accountability in that manner. When you blame something else for a failure it is an excuse instead of just taking accountability for the action. And like I said earlier, most of the times it is the fans who make the excuses as they try to shield their favorite player or coach from any criticism.

Example: Dez needs to drop fewer passes. Instead of just wanting Dez to drop fewer passes you get all the excuses - Dak was inaccurate and it is hard for Dez to concentrate. Dez was injured. Weeden and Cassel made him suck, the ball needs to be 2 inches above the defenders helmet, etc.

All those reasons given to avoid agreeing that Dez needs to catch the balls he should catch. That lack of placing accountability on Dez makes those reasons excuses. Maybe all those reasons would be good if you’re discussing how Dez can become more productive, but they aren’t good when trying to deflect blame from him for his mistakes.

Please provide links to these “quotes” by Garrett or Jones that you tried to document in this post. Quotes from either one who made the excuse for Dez that Dak was inaccurate, Dez was injured, Weeden and Cassel made him suck, the ball needs to be 2 inches above the defenders helmet, etc. I need these links because I’ve never heard Garrett say any of those things. Jones either, but he’s so confusing when he talks, haters like yourself can take any meaning you want from his statements.

 

[Pants]

imo, (certainly not an excuse), Dallas is good at their #1 positions for the most part, but the drop-off to #2 is astounding...so, when we have an injury, it is oppressive to the team's success...I love the idea of competition at all positions, but as an example, there is NO ONE that can break into the first team on the OL, but when needed, there are 3rd-string types waiting (see: Green)...

 

[Aviano90]

Please provide links to these “quotes” by Garrett or Jones that you tried to document in this post. Quotes from either one who made the excuse for Dez that Dak was inaccurate, Dez was injured, Weeden and Cassel made him suck, the ball needs to be 2 inches above the defenders helmet, etc. I need these links because I’ve never heard Garrett say any of those things. Jones either, but he’s so confusing when he talks, haters like yourself can take any meaning you want from his statements.

Please read and comprehend, specifically the 3rd sentence. I will make it easy for you and put it below:

And like I said earlier, most of the times it is the fans who make the excuses as they try to shield their favorite player or coach from any criticism.

 

[Rockport]

Please read and comprehend, specifically the 3rd sentence. I will make it easy for you and put it below:

And like I said earlier, most of the times it is the fans who make the excuses as they try to shield their favorite player or coach from any criticism.

Of course you can't find any links. You just make things up to fit your agenda. Ain't fooling me.

 

[kskboys]

Yes Green was a reach. In fact, we didn't need to draft a tackle then. Let alone a one that was injured.

If we didn't sign for Murray we should have drafted a runningback. As you recall they were willing to have Randle as our starter that year. That to me was silly and stupid especially when your strength was running the ball.

We didn't need to pick Gregory in the 2nd round. If we would have gone runningback in the 2nd we could have gotten Tevin Coleman. We also could have gotten a runningback in the 3rd. Ajayi was still available. Both Tevin Coleman and Ajayi are productive runningbacks still today. What has Gregory done for us lately? NOTHING! How was that Chaz Green selection? BAD. BOTH ARE BUST!

For a team who's strength was running the ball, and a very deep draft for runningback draft then, Dallas failed miserably. They went on to select Zeke in the 4th round because they finally wised-up and did the right thing.

So just stop talking like Chaz Green was a good pick. He sucks and Dallas messed up. Foresight my butt!

Chaz was rated as a 6-7th rounder/UFA type. It was a horrible reach to take him.

"Reach" for a RB in the 15 draft? David Johnson in the 2nd wouldn't have been a reach.

I swear, some people just do a poor job of analyzing.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Several years ago, Jimmy Johnson was pressed on a given Sunday to explain why the Cowboys always seem to underachieve despite having some talent. His answer as I recall was something to the effect that the players did not fear the coaches or any repercussions for failure. He also (as I remember) said the environment was “too country club”. May not be exact, but I think that was generally what he said.

IMO, the biggest culture cancer of the last 22 years of failure boils down to this: Our leaders accept excuses. When the people who lead your organization not only have zero consequences for their own failure, and they also make “sugar daddy” excuses for their players and coaches for any year that has ended without much being accomplished, your organization is infected.

Tony Romo famously once stated that the NFL is a “meritocracy”- your value, playing time and accolades depend on your bottom line performance. Well that “meritocracy” may apply to the rest of the NFL, but it doesn’t apparently apply much in Dallas if you are in the FO or coaching staff.

Pick a year. Any year in the last 22. You can easily find Jerry making local or sports headlines by laying out a beautiful soft bed of excuses as to why his team either did not make the playoffs or exited early in the playoffs. For the sake of brevity, I can’t or won’t list all of the excuses laid out by Jerry to soft pedal his team’s failure, but here’s some of the excuse “greatest hits”- in no particular order:

1. If Zeke hadn’t been suspended those 6 games, 2017 would have been different.
2. If Aaron Rodgers doesn’t make that 3rd and 30 completion we would have won that 2016 playoff game.
3. If Tyron Smith hadn’t been hurt most of 2017, we would have won that Atlanta game.
4. Our defense was great until Sean Lee got hurt. If we have him all season...
5. If Greg Hardy had stayed focused and played like he did in his first game against NE, we would have...
6. If Tony Romo doesn’t hurt his back, break his collarbone, need surgery......etc.
7. It takes a while for a rookie head coach to develop. (Implying it was ok to throw seasons away in the “learning process”)
8. Wade Phillips after the disastrous 2007 loss in first round to giants: “We still had a great season”. (If I was GM, that might have been a firing offense, but this org loves excuses)
9. Jerry- “Zeke’s been through a lot lately”. (Jerry telling coaches they shouldn’t discipline him after he quit on a play in Denver after an interception)
10. Jerry- “I don’t want to give up on the development of Jason Garrett too soon and let another team benefit from it”. (After 3 straight non-winning, non-playoff seasons)

The excuse list of the last two decades could fill a 500 page book. Excuse making is the opposite of accountability. Good leaders own their mistakes and impose consequences for failure, regardless of what coulda, woulda, shoulda been. What makes this team’s culture so problematic is that as long as Jerry and the top brass keep making and accepting excuses, it will continue to dog this team.

I’m sick of the excuses. As fans we should stop repeating some of Jerry’s excuses on these boards. If this team again fails to make the playoffs, or loses early in the playoffs, there should be ZERO excuses. This team has enough talent to make some noise this year.

Injuries happen- every year. Bad calls, and bad luck happen every year. The true contenders always find a way to win anyway and the pretenders always find a good set of excuses.

Everything you said was spot on. But I would like to add something else. One of the biggest problems for the Cowboys is the fan base. They are really are a bunch of happy go lucky, roll with the punches, fair weather bunch. the FAN BASE is a big reason why we are stuck in mediocrity. A coach like Jason Garrett would have been run out of town many years ago in a place like NYC or Philly. Even Jones would have been hammered so bad that he would have had to make big changes. The pathetic nature of the fan base in general to accept mediocrity and incompetence with such a ho hum attitude is a complete embarrassment.

One poster labelled me as a complainer. Well until things are going great, you better believe it. At least Im not some ho hum homer that is satisfied with 2 playoff wins in 25 years. Sad. Its the disgruntled fan base that forces change. Not the happy go lucky excuse makers as you so perfectly put it.

Dak, Zeke, Oline, last few drafts, all love it. But its not enough. And this clap happy joker in Garrett HAS to go.

 

[Aviano90]

Of course you can't find any links. You just make things up to fit your agenda. Ain't fooling me.

Well, it would make sense if you I said what you think I said. As usual, you are just Rockport being Rockport adding absolutely zero to the conversation.

 

[Rockport]

Well, it would make sense if you I said what you think I said. As usual, you are just Rockport being Rockport adding absolutely zero to the conversation.

No my efforts are paying off

 

[Sydla]

No my efforts are paying off

You are like the guy who lights his building on fire on purpose, puts the fire out himself and then deems himself to be a hero.

 

[Rockport]

You are like the guy who lights his building on fire on purpose, puts the fire out himself and then deems himself to be a hero.

No you, the Italian and a few others light the hate fires. I just try to put them out.

 

[Sydla]

No you, the Italian and a few others light the hate fires. I just try to put them out.

Its no surprise my point zoomed right over your head.

 

[Rockport]

Its no surprise my point zoomed right over your head.

No it didn't. You're too simple not to understand.

 

[Aviano90]

Its no surprise my point zoomed right over your head.

There is no helping Walter Mitty.

 

[Sydla]

No it didn't. You're too simple not to understand.

LOL. That's all you could muster here?