Twitter: Twitter 7-27, training camp day two

[xwalker]

"Jaylon is best suited at MLB"

I disagree. Jaylon will bebest at Will

By picking Vander Esch in the 1st, the Cowboys either didn't believe Jaylon would progress OR they were making plans for replacing Lee when his contract is up as well as when he likely misses games due to injury.

SLB plays less than 25% of the snaps. They didn't draft a LB in the 1st because they wanted to move Jaylon to SLB. It will be an interesting benefit to have Jaylon at SLB due to his ability to as a pass rusher; however, the 3 LB formation generally sees more run plays than pass plays.

It does not "sound" as if they were worried about Jaylon; therefore the pick of Vander Esch was likely heavily influenced by Sean Lee's age and injury history.

My guess is that Jaylon would play WLB with Vander Esch at MLB; although it's possible that it could be the opposite.

 

[Trouty]

Not twitter but a good interview yesterday with Murray.

LOVE ME some Murray. Thanks for posting this, Dooms. Listening now, brother

 

[DiResta]

from yesterday, but Tank has gotten so smooth
he already had the power
hes going to have an elite year if healthy

 

[xwalker]

I thought Austin was bigger but he is about the size of Beasely. Yea i dont think that statement by linehan is anything but I didnt adapt to anything in a timely manner in 2017!

Beasley is very quick but lacks elite speed. That was a limitation last season. On 3rd and medium/long defenses would crowd the sticks (1st down marker) and let Beasley or Witten catch it short of the 1st because the defenses were confident in tackling them short of the 1st. This made it easier to cover other WRs.

With Austin in the slot, defenses won't use that strategy. When Austin catches the ball in open space, he is very dangerous.

 

[DiResta]

By picking Vander Esch in the 1st, the Cowboys either didn't believe Jaylon would progress OR they were making plans for replacing Lee when his contract is up as well as when he likely misses games due to injury.

SLB plays less than 25% of the snaps. They didn't draft a LB in the 1st because they wanted to move Jaylon to SLB. It will be an interesting benefit to have Jaylon at SLB due to his ability to as a pass rusher; however, the 3 LB formation generally sees more run plays than pass plays.

It does not "sound" as if they were worried about Jaylon; therefore the pick of Vander Esch was likely heavily influenced by Sean Lee's age and injury history.

My guess is that Jaylon would play WLB with Vander Esch at MLB; although it's possible that it could be the opposite.

pretty much what Marinelli said about it
think Jaylon rotates more with Lee

 

[Billyd]

By picking Vander Esch in the 1st, the Cowboys either didn't believe Jaylon would progress OR they were making plans for replacing Lee when his contract is up as well as when he likely misses games due to injury.

SLB plays less than 25% of the snaps. They didn't draft a LB in the 1st because they wanted to move Jaylon to SLB. It will be an interesting benefit to have Jaylon at SLB due to his ability to as a pass rusher; however, the 3 LB formation generally sees more run plays than pass plays.

It does not "sound" as if they were worried about Jaylon; therefore the pick of Vander Esch was likely heavily influenced by Sean Lee's age and injury history.

My guess is that Jaylon would play WLB with Vander Esch at MLB; although it's possible that it could be the opposite.

Bro Idn..I think theY thought was they needed a lbr coz Hitchens left, they decided before the draft he was their guy and took him when he was still there..The funny thing was he was projected in that area, No one made a play for him besides the cowboys yada..My thought is that whoever you take better start.. Im Thinking that LVE as talented as he is, is not going to beat out Lee or Smith..

NOW your idea of rotating him with WILL and mike makes sense, but i dont believe in the way the cowboys have played, that He will start..

Further i think Lee and Smith continue in the Nickle...

So...I guess his role is as a rotational lbr. A FIRST as a rotational lbr.. Maybe more of a 1a,1b,1c Lbr...Confusing but I guess a nice problem to have..

 

[xwalker]

pretty much what Marinelli said about it
think Jaylon rotates more with Lee

That sounds like they plan to limit Lee's snaps to some extent.

 

[Trouty]

Murray saying JG weakness is "managing games," "critical moments" "running the ball" "2-minute drill"

Murray is right on all three accounts, imo. And only recently has JG improved at featuring the run, but it's been kinda forced on him due to our personnel, there's really no way we can't feature the run. But we wasted Murray's first three years here. Where Murray flashed elite-potential and we still disbanded the run.

Interesting take from a guy who is still part of the JG-Romo-Witten inner circle (as he mentions, too [still being friends/close with them])

 

[DiResta]

That sounds like they plan to limit Lee's snaps to some extent.

if you can do it, it just keeps him fresher late in the year
they havent been able to function without him since Rolando

 

[Fletch]

The heck does secure the bag mean?

Translation: Go and get that big bag of money and secure it.

 

[gmoney112]

By picking Vander Esch in the 1st, the Cowboys either didn't believe Jaylon would progress OR they were making plans for replacing Lee when his contract is up as well as when he likely misses games due to injury.

SLB plays less than 25% of the snaps. They didn't draft a LB in the 1st because they wanted to move Jaylon to SLB. It will be an interesting benefit to have Jaylon at SLB due to his ability to as a pass rusher; however, the 3 LB formation generally sees more run plays than pass plays.

It does not "sound" as if they were worried about Jaylon; therefore the pick of Vander Esch was likely heavily influenced by Sean Lee's age and injury history.

My guess is that Jaylon would play WLB with Vander Esch at MLB; although it's possible that it could be the opposite.

Yeah, basically. I expect the plan was to not have as much pressure on LVE his first year. And learning the game from Lee+Jaylon in the meantime will help a lot.

That and depth, of course. In which case I think Jaylon immediately slides into WLB and LVE takes MLB. Not too shabby.

In 4-3 with 3 LBs I agree too. Jaylons pass rush ability there will be interesting, like Seattle did with Irvin. Not so much as a Leo that moved around so much, like Seattle used him, but a guy who has pass rush ability and can threaten from the position, especially with DLaw underneath at LDE getting so much attention.

I'm guessing Jaylon probably has inside track on nickelbacker as of now. But, one of LVEs best attributes was how natural he was in zone, even with his size. He'd probably still get a good amount of snaps, especially if theres a certain type of coverage we want to run against an opponent and LVE just happens to be better at it. I just think Jaylon will be hard to beat out if hes healthy. Still, LVE would only be an injury away, which is a nice luxury to have. If Jaylon is healthy, this is the most athletic LB core we've had in a long time.

 

[Billyd]

I want to talk about that for a minute..The reason for this as a whole has been the offenses in the Nfl Going to Three, four receiver sets, and the lack of lbrs that can cover, and stop the run well..Even Lve and JAYLON are limited in their coverage ability...Although I believe Jaylon will develop better there...I mean 6-2 4-5 speed maybe better now..Lolol..

In the Nickle On third down might be a better spot to Insert or move around lbrs...But Your reason for taking one out on third still stands.

So they really need to Get lee out of the Will more in games..Smith will have to really show he can be that guy in their defense...The collective defense intelligence goes dark when lee off the field!

 

[Billyd]

All Good points bro..They needed a good lbr either way..Those three otf at the same time looks awesome on paper..Smith is violent. Id love to see him.cracking qbs in the east and the Nfl..Could solve several problems..lol

 

[Billyd]

All Good points bro..They needed a good lbr either way..Those three otf at the same time looks awesome on paper..Smith is violent. Id love to see him.cracking qbs in the east and the Nfl..Could solve several problems..lol

Im kind of worried about our one tech liability and teams seeing last year they could trap us. WITH Jaylons lack of Lateral last year, and some of the conservative playcalling on defense, we got gashed..I realize that a product if need and was elevated due to Lee being out..

NOW, if this offense stuggles in the passing game, and teams try and ball control us, this better be a reason to mitigate the 1 tech issue..Personally i dont think this is a long term effective way to mask a deficiency at one tech...Neither is a SS, although the Cowboys effectively did some of that recently with Church...A one Tech allows your lbrs to flow and stay clean..And preferably stay healthy..

 

[xwalker]

Yeah, basically. I expect the plan was to not have as much pressure on LVE his first year. And learning the game from Lee+Jaylon in the meantime will help a lot.

That and depth, of course. In which case I think Jaylon immediately slides into WLB and LVE takes MLB. Not too shabby.

In 4-3 with 3 LBs I agree too. Jaylons pass rush ability there will be interesting, like Seattle did with Irvin. Not so much as a Leo that moved around so much, like Seattle used him, but a guy who has pass rush ability and can threaten from the position, especially with DLaw underneath at LDE getting so much attention.

I'm guessing Jaylon probably has inside track on nickelbacker as of now. But, one of LVEs best attributes was how natural he was in zone, even with his size. He'd probably still get a good amount of snaps, especially if theres a certain type of coverage we want to run against an opponent and LVE just happens to be better at it. I just think Jaylon will be hard to beat out if hes healthy. Still, LVE would only be an injury away, which is a nice luxury to have. If Jaylon is healthy, this is the most athletic LB core we've had in a long time.

I expect Vander Esch to be the MLB in base. In Nickel, I think all of Lee, Jaylon, Vander Esch and Thomas will gets snaps.

Lee will likely get all Dime snaps.

It would make the most sense to sub for Lee in running situations; however, since they l'll likely want Jaylon at SLB in base, the next situation to sub for Lee would be when they are in Nickel but expect run. Nickel generally just means 3 WRs on offense but not necessarily a passing situation. Some offenses run better from 3 Wide.

They might instead just sub for Lee based on a full series and not specific situations.

Even with everyone healthy, I think the LB Thomas might get a few more snaps than most people would expect. He was somewhat of a coverage specialists in GB.

 

[Billyd]

Beasley is very quick but lacks elite speed. That was a limitation last season. On 3rd and medium/long defenses would crowd the sticks (1st down marker) and let Beasley or Witten catch it short of the 1st because the defenses were confident in tackling them short of the 1st. This made it easier to cover other WRs.

With Austin in the slot, defenses won't use that strategy. When Austin catches the ball in open space, he is very dangerous.

Maybe, Beasley issues were about scheme used against him and for some ignant reason linehan didnt adjust..Its very simple to put a monkey in that kind of scheming..Linehan just went stupid at times. Maybe he thought speed was the difference..Beasly runs a 4.52 But his skill is lateral quickness..It diesnt matter who you are, if teams double or jam you, or Jam and hand you off, you have to break it, or put the wr in motion..Something Linehan didnt use as much as yearz past.

 

[Sydla]

I suspect Smith will follow the Myles Jack plan, where he played SAM and then a lot of nickel.

 

[Billyd]

I expect Vander Esch to be the MLB in base. In Nickel, I think all of Lee, Jaylon, Vander Esch and Thomas will gets snaps.

Lee will likely get all Dime snaps.

It would make the most sense to sub for Lee in running situations; however, since they l'll likely want Jaylon at SLB in base, the next situation to sub for Lee would be when they are in Nickel but expect run. Nickel generally just means 3 WRs on offense but not necessarily a passing situation. Some offenses run better from 3 Wide.

They might instead just sub for Lee based on a full series and not specific situations.

Even with everyone healthy, I think the LB Thomas might get a few more snaps than most people would expect. He was somewhat of a coverage specialists in GB.

Lee is the best Run lbr they have..Smith is second right now!

THATS the other issue..Id love that to even out .

 

[Mr Cowboy]

 

[Mr Cowboy]