Which QB from the 2016 draft would you want over Dak?

[FLCowboyFan]

Assuming you didn't have the 1st or 2nd pick in the entire draft (Wentz and Goff) who would you have picked in the 2016 draft other than Dak? It looks to me that we got the one guy out of that draft that is worth anything. everyone else has been released or traded. That isn't saying we didn't luck into Dak but luckily he fell to us.

 

[Risen Star]

I'd have traded up from 4 and taken Wentz instead of watching the Eagles do it.

 

[LetsBeReal]

Is there any way we can get a look at them with the cowboys offense and dak with their offense before choosing?

 

[Fan_from_Germany]

We have Dak, that's it!!!
It's stupid to think, what if ...

 

[Ken]

I'd have traded up from 4 and taken Wentz instead of watching the Eagles do it.

You would huh?

You understand by doing so, you give up Zeke, Jaylon, Dak, an even higher 2017 1st than we took taco with, and at least another high pick that would have been Chido.

All for a guy who has not been better than Dak.

 

[Bobhaze]

Wentz.

 

[Risen Star]

You would huh?

You understand by doing so, you give up Zeke, Jaylon, Dak, an even higher 2017 1st than we took taco with, and at least another high pick that would have been Chido.

All for a guy who has not been better than Dak.

Yes I would have. I prefer having an elite young franchise QB.

You can have the others.

And the Cowboys would have given up less. They were at 4 not 8.

Good talk.

 

[atlantacowboy]

You would huh?

You understand by doing so, you give up Zeke, Jaylon, Dak, an even higher 2017 1st than we took taco with, and at least another high pick that would have been Chido.

All for a guy who has not been better than Dak.

Wentz was much better than Dak last year. 2016 is not relevant. In young QB's you want to see growth and improvement. Wentz went from missing much of his rookie year to league MVP candidate before his injury. His upside as a qB is much higher than Dak's. The difference between the #4 overall pick and #2 is 800 points. The eagles when you look at their trade and dissect it, only gave up a 2017 first round pick and 2018 second pick to move up. It would have cost us less.

 

[Blackrain]

Wentz was much better than Dak last year. 2016 is not relevant. In young QB's you want to see growth and improvement. Wentz went from missing much of his rookie year to league MVP candidate before his injury. His upside as a qB is much higher than Dak's. The difference between the #4 overall pick and #2 is 800 points. The eagles when you look at their trade and dissect it, only gave up a 2017 first round pick and 2018 second pick to move up. It would have cost us less.

Im happy Dak is our QB . Wentz was a Grenade with the pin out just pushing the line till he got hurt . Predicted it to all my Eagle buddies and they even agreed he took too many hits .

Is he available to play , is he back too 100% after the injury . 2017 isn't relevant because there is no proof yet he can do what he did then till he dose it. Eagles are very lucky they have Foles.
Dak is available to play that's job 1

 

[Ken]

Yes I would have. I prefer having an elite young franchise QB.

You can have the others.

And the Cowboys would have given up less. They were at 4 not 8.

Good talk.

What i put up was less.

And I think we are all glad you are not running this franchise since you can't see the error of that decision.

 

[Ken]

Wentz was much better than Dak last year. 2016 is not relevant. In young QB's you want to see growth and improvement. Wentz went from missing much of his rookie year to league MVP candidate before his injury. His upside as a qB is much higher than Dak's. The difference between the #4 overall pick and #2 is 800 points. The eagles when you look at their trade and dissect it, only gave up a 2017 first round pick and 2018 second pick to move up. It would have cost us less.

What are you talking about?

Wentz played his whole rookie year and was not good. Yes, he was better last year but not as good as the numbers indicate. That was the result of amazing scheme (never saw more wide open players for an entire year without defenses catching up) and super bowl talent around him. Nick Foles proves that point beyond a shadow of a doubt and I said it ALL YEAR last year.

The Eagles had to give them their first in 2017 as well...so I don't know what you are talking about.

 

[atlantacowboy]

What are you talking about?

Wentz played his whole rookie year and was not good. Yes, he was better last year but not as good as the numbers indicate. That was the result of amazing scheme (never saw more wide open players for an entire year without defenses catching up) and super bowl talent around him. Nick Foles proves that point beyond a shadow of a doubt and I said it ALL YEAR last year.

The Eagles had to give them their first in 2017 as well...so I don't know what you are talking about.

They gave up the 8 pick and gained the #2 pick in the 2016 draft. So, they lost nothing in the 2016 draft. The net cost was one first rounder in 2017 and one 2nd rounder in 2018. Not real difficult to understand.

You are wrong about Wentz but i'll let you figure that out on your own.

 

[Risen Star]

What i put up was less.

And I think we are all glad you are not running this franchise since you can't see the error of that decision.

Yes, it would be horrible to have an elite young franchise QB to build around.

And how could we argue with all the success this front office has given us the last two decades? Thank God they run the team and not me.

Good stuff, Ken.

 

[DFWJC]

Assuming you didn't have the 1st or 2nd pick in the entire draft (Wentz and Goff) who would you have picked in the 2016 draft other than Dak? It looks to me that we got the one guy out of that draft that is worth anything. everyone else has been released or traded. That isn't saying we didn't luck into Dak but luckily he fell to us.

Wentz is probably the main argument. Maybe some would say Goff too, but let's stick w/ Wentz.

Philly got the 2nd overall pick by giving up their 2016 1st, 3rd, and 4th rounders, plus 2017 1st and 2nd rounds
We wouldn't have had to give up the 2016 3rd and 4th rounders, most likely as we were moving up 2 vs 6 spots. Then again, Cleveland mayve not traded unless we did...nobody knows for sure.

Assuming Cleveland would take our trade, this would be the cost

Wentz or

Zeke Elliott
Dak Prescott
Taco Charlton
Chidobe Awuzie

I won't argue which is better, but that is the cost.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

I'd take the 4 of them

 

[Ken]

Yes, it would be horrible to have an elite young franchise QB to build around.

And how could we argue with all the success this front office has given us the last two decades? Thank God they run the team and not me.

Good stuff, Ken.

We have an elite young qb who is also durable and has a playoff game under his belt. We also still have all of those other pieces.

Not sure why you cling to this...

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

What are you talking about?

Wentz played his whole rookie year and was not good. Yes, he was better last year but not as good as the numbers indicate. That was the result of amazing scheme (never saw more wide open players for an entire year without defenses catching up) and super bowl talent around him. Nick Foles proves that point beyond a shadow of a doubt and I said it ALL YEAR last year.

The Eagles had to give them their first in 2017 as well...so I don't know what you are talking about.

Lulz, smh.

So excuse away Wentz's 2017 season to an "amazing scheme," but fail to recognize Dak's 2016 success was largely on the shoulders of Zeke.

Here's news....every NFL team runs a "scheme." Dallas' happens to be a run-control scheme meant to prevent the QB from having to win the game with his arm.

 

[Risen Star]

We have an elite young qb

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were having a serious conversation.

 

[cml750]

Wentz all day every day.

 

[Ken]

Lulz, smh.

So excuse away Wentz's 2017 season to an "amazing scheme," but fail to recognize Dak's 2016 success was largely on the shoulders of Zeke.

Here's news....every NFL team runs a "scheme." Dallas' happens to be a run-control scheme meant to prevent the QB from having to win the game with his arm.

Riiiiight.

I said it all year. He was making simple throws to wide open players. Dak was running for his life and making plays at the same time.

Can you explain how a journeyman Nick Foles can come in and have perhaps the greatest Championship and Super Bowl performances a qb has ever had if it wasn't the scheme and personnel? I'll wait...