To all those saying Dak Sucks

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Its funny that some people didn't complain about the lazy analysis when there were threads on here saying that Dak is better than Brady and Rodgers

 

[Hadenough]

I can't do it anymore...i can't come on this board and see all of this lazy and useless analysis.

Every pass that isn't perfect is hyper anayzed and overly critiqued to being Dak's fault. Ooooohhhhhh....that ball to Austin requires him to raise his and and jump....and? Did you watch the Texans catching balls all over the place? Did you watch any other nfl games where guys are catching balls all over the place?

Newsflash....we have NO weapons. Who is our guy we are going to with any consistency on 3rd and 7? Who is beating coverage? Nobe of them do it. Not even Beasely.

A few points to ponder:
* we are a running team with a ton invested in the OL and RB. We were ineffective in the run game.
*Both interceptions hit the wrs in the hands.

*Dak Bashers....at this point in Romo's career...he was still carrying a clip board and didn't start his first game until a few more weeks.

It is a travesty how we have given this young qb nothing to work with. I fear we are ruining him with the crapshow we have surrounded him with.

Are you freaking kidding! Dak if he was any good would be making the throws all over the field regardless of the WR. They would just get dropped. Daks not making any wow throws. Dak is struggling to make the most basic throws an NFL QB can make. I'm starting to get really pissed that this issue is seen by 95 % of the people and there is some 5% that is blind.

 

[Dorsett33]

I can't do it anymore...i can't come on this board and see all of this lazy and useless analysis.

Every pass that isn't perfect is hyper anayzed and overly critiqued to being Dak's fault. Ooooohhhhhh....that ball to Austin requires him to raise his and and jump....and? Did you watch the Texans catching balls all over the place? Did you watch any other nfl games where guys are catching balls all over the place?

Newsflash....we have NO weapons. Who is our guy we are going to with any consistency on 3rd and 7? Who is beating coverage? Nobe of them do it. Not even Beasely.

A few points to ponder:
* we are a running team with a ton invested in the OL and RB. We were ineffective in the run game.
*Both interceptions hit the wrs in the hands.

*Dak Bashers....at this point in Romo's career...he was still carrying a clip board and didn't start his first game until a few more weeks.

It is a travesty how we have given this young qb nothing to work with. I fear we are ruining him with the crapshow we have surrounded him with.

I agree. I was always taught when the ball hit both hands as a receiver...it's now that receiver's responsibility to catch it. All 4 ints this year...all hit receivers in the hands. Playcalling is absolutely horrible too. I was ok with cutting Dez. Now I'm not so sure.

 

[Dorsett33]

How is anyone even considering giving the 2nd int to anyone but Dak? He forced it in and the defender had their hand in their to knock it up...just like against Seattle.

A couple things are wrong with that. Receiver knows he was covered tightly. So..two things. As a receiver you come back to the ball. And you put your hands out to catch the ball and not with your body as he was trying to do. So YES....it was the receivers fault

 

[Lutonio]

But he does suck.

 

[lukin2006]

I think many posters on here could be more productive than Dak. In my opinion, Dak plays scared. Over and over other teams QB stands in the pocket willing to get popped to make the play. Dak looks to make the play before he gets popped, often times resulting poor passes. He is terrible. Even his successful deep passes don't look good. The dude struggles to throw the ball. And this team will waste the talent at RB and offensive line instead of getting a good QB. Sad.

 

[Romotil45]

Dak is our Flacco and we're gonna be stuck with him and his mediocre play

Unfortunatley we didn't win a Super Bowl during the only great run of play he'll likely have as a starter

Flacco is more accurate and has more arm strength than Dak. Flacco is average. Dak is in the bottom tier of NFL QBs.

 

[Philmonroe]

Its funny that some people didn't complain about the lazy analysis when there were threads on here saying that Dak is better than Brady and Rodgers

The difference in threads from 2016 to now lol. I remember that thread and it was pretty big iirc. People are bias on both sides but swear they aren't. That's us humans for you lol

 

[Romotil45]

All this is great but Dak looked the same last year with Dez and Witten. Of course then people said that all the WRs including Beasley declined at the same time.

What's different from his rookie year? Defenses stack the middle, take away inside routes, and force Dak to throw to the outside. Dak has not shown he can do that with any consistency. Just look at his rating on 3rd down passing situations.

Instead of trying to get Dak to throw to the outside to open things up, they have opted for go routes, which Dak does throw well. Go routes though require time so defenses are blitzing and Dak is lost. Pocket awareness is bad. Doesn't throw the ball to the hole left by the blitz, and it's only because he is a good runner that he has been able to keep anything going.

How many sideline passes did Watson throw last night? Several. We can argue about Dak forever but he isn't going to make it in this league without being able to hit WRs to the outside 10-20 yards down field. Nothing changes until he can do that or isn't our QB anymore.

This is great analysis you hit the nail on the head. He doesn't have the arm strength or accuracy to to stretch defenses. He doesn't attack 1:1 coverage on the outside.

 

[Ken]

I agree. I was always taught when the ball hit both hands as a receiver...it's now that receiver's responsibility to catch it. All 4 ints this year...all hit receivers in the hands. Playcalling is absolutely horrible too. I was ok with cutting Dez. Now I'm not so sure.

I was also ok with it but I expected better weapons to be brought in. We have the worst collection of weapons that I can ever remember on the Cowboys.

 

[Romotil45]

Yawn. An O line with 3 All Pro's. The league's leading rusher. And for the first two years of his Career, a sure fire first ballot HOF tight end. And until he became the scapegoat last year, a #1 receiver who was an All Pro and had a 4 year stretch as good as anyone in the NFL not named Antonio Brown

Come on man, you like the guy, you support him, that's fine. Reasonable people can disagree.

But let's deal in reality. Otherwise we're wasting our time.

Yes and during that stretch Dak had 3 games where he through for over 300 yrds however one of those was added by a 82 yrd screen play. So he had the best OL in the league a HOF TE a very good receiver in Dez and still couldn't throw for 300 consistently. That screams backup.

 

[Romotil45]

Let's put it this way...

Dak doesn't suck... You have to be good to even be in the NFL. But he isn't good enough to be considered a franchise QB.

If people can't see the difference between a franchise QB, and Dak Prescott, there isn't much that can be said to change their minds.

Receivers drop passes, that is life. But, the difference is... franchise QBs can make up for that. They don't have to worry that 2 passes that hit a receiver in the hands were dropped. Because they know they can hit a receiver in the hands multiple time. Dak can not do that...

Have receivers dropped catch-able passes? Yes

Is our receiving group lacking? yes

Can Dak make up for any of that? No

Do you see any defense giving respect to Dak? No (And that isn't only because of the WRs and TEs)
They know that 1 out of every 15 passes, he might be able to beat them, and make the tough throws. How many defenses are going to respect that?

The opposing defense looks at it like:
Dak might get lucky and get one on us now and then... so what?
If we stop the run, we stop Dallas... done deal. Only one thing to stop period.

There are receivers open, they are not throws that Dak can make. When was the last time you saw Dak throw a deep post or slant in the middle of the field?

When was the last time you saw Dak throw an out route accurately?

When was the last time you saw one of those stupid curls we use all of the time, where Dak had the ball in the air before the receiver broke?

You see Dak throw drag routes, screens, and go routes... THAT IS IT! That is the end of his abilities as a passer...

When that is all you can do, you just limited a massive number of plays from the playbook.

Very good analysis.

 

[davidariust24]

Dak is a good QB, he isnt great. Wed have to talk about paying him north of 20 million per season. There is no way.Getting paid for intangibles would be crazy. I need some tangibles like passer rating, yards per game TD to INT ratio and number of wins or comebacks. Dak needs to show something or we need to draft a QB that we feel can get the job done and at least compete for the job.

 

[Kevinicus]

A couple things are wrong with that. Receiver knows he was covered tightly. So..two things. As a receiver you come back to the ball. And you put your hands out to catch the ball and not with your body as he was trying to do. So YES....it was the receivers fault

Uh no. The pass was late and off target. The WR had to adjust his path. He was going outside (where it should have been thrown) and had to shift back inside to try and make a play. The ball placement allowed the defender to get there. The ball being late allowed the defender to get there.

You guys need to make up your minds. Did it hit his hands or was he catching it with his body?

The ball should have come out sooner and been more to the outside. This play was 100%, 100%, 100% on Dak.
Enough with the excuses.

 

[Romotil45]

Dak needs a true #1 WR like this one who can shield defenders with his body in tight coverage and make them pay...if they make a mistake

Can Hurns, Thompson, Hurd, TWill, Beasley, or Austin do this on similar routes?



A true #1 WR just need the ball thrown to him regardless of the coverage in most cases.... He will take care of the rest.

The problem with that is we had Dez who was great at this especially in the red zone. Dak doesn't like to throw to recievers unless they are wide open. He cant or will not consistently throw guys open. Im not sure a #1 receiver would help Dak much.

 

[Dorsett33]

Uh no. The pass was late and off target. The WR had to adjust his path. He was going outside (where it should have been thrown) and had to shift back inside to try and make a play. The ball placement allowed the defender to get there. The ball being late allowed the defender to get there.

You guys need to make up your minds. Did it hit his hands or was he catching it with his body?

The ball should have come out sooner and been more to the outside. This play was 100%, 100%, 100% on Dak.
Enough with the excuses.

Let me ask you one question....have you ever played receiver in a competitive organized football league? If you did, you wouldn't say what you are saying. You can always say a ball should be placed a certain way. The receiver has to extend his hands. So...I know how much you WOULD LIKE to place blame on Dak.....that was not on Dak. So.....ummmm no!

 

[Kevinicus]

Let me ask you one question....have you ever played receiver in a competitive organized football league? If you did, you wouldn't say what you are saying. You can always say a ball should be placed a certain way. The receiver has to extend his hands. So...I know how much you WOULD LIKE to place blame on Dak.....that was not on Dak. So.....ummmm no!

Ah, the non-argument argument. Gotta love these.

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

*Ball bounces off the WR’s hands for an interception*

“OmG dAk SuCkS!!!”

 

[nate dizzle]

I think both QBs are middle of the pack. I only like dak for this team because of his ability to take care of the football which was not Romo's forte. Romo was a better QB towards the end but couldn't stay health but that's after a decade. Remember Romo never even saw a game yet at this point in his career. I want to see a new HC, OC before a new qb. I think you put a new qb in here and it will be the same trash.

Romo had a 2.7% career Interception rate. Equal to Peyton Manning, Ben Roeth, and Joe Montana. Lower than Troy Aikman who had a 3.0% and Roger Staubach who had a 3.7%, and Danny White who had a 4.5%

Romo was excellent at taking care of the football. Perception is not reality.

 

[wrongway]

We had the 85 Bears defense in 2016? Give him credit he was good that year. Top 10 Qb. 2018 he is a bottom 10. He needs talent around him because he is not special. Jerry is going to get him a TE and WR next year but not an extension.

no we didn't have the 85 bears defense

We had the 85 Bears defense in 2016? Give him credit he was good that year. Top 10 Qb. 2018 he is a bottom 10. He needs talent around him because he is not special. Jerry is going to get him a TE and WR next year but not an extension.

No, his first year was above average. Since then not so much