Dak is improving

Chrispierce

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Well they’re stuck with him now after the trade. But I’m still not seeing what I wanted from my off-season improvement hopes. I simply can’t have a QB doing what he did on the strip for a TD. I just can’t have that play. He’s not releasing it and processing fast enough. It needs to be “bam”,or just fall down for crying out loud and move on to the next play. He’s too lazy out there...and needs to get his game tight. Same with the other stupid fumble...cover up the ball. What was that about? This isn’t a matador ring. Two arms close to your body going into the line.
 

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Aikman sucked his first 3 years like he sucked his last 4 years for the exact same reasons Dak is struggling right now. LACK OF TALENT AND WEAPONS AROUND HIM.

Wisen up, Einstein.

Wait a minute? Dak has a lack of talent with defenses stacking the line to stop Zeke, because he’s the best rusher in the league and plenty of all pro talent up front, forcing Dak to have to throw the ball and beat them with his arm in this era where you can’t even touch the QB, and you have the audacity to compare this dude to a HOF talent who was one of the greatest QB playoff performers in NFL history in an era where DBs could massacre WRs and they allowed spearing over the middle?

A guy who by the end of his career had already had like 11 concussions?

Seriously what is it that you Dak fanboys smoke?
 

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He should have rolled to his left...would have been an easy throw for him. He had the time to do it too...and you see him reset his feet. Just isn’t making the right decisions. So go ahead and put Cooper out there...going to be the same deal.
 

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Dak continues to be a checkdown King and avoids throwing in the intermediate to deep middle of the field. And this is going back to even 2016, his best year.


Even if you ignore the completions etc and just look at the difference how a real QB attacks the entire field.

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He had time to get that ball out. He knew the route. He locked in on the rusher and gave up on the play. Never set up to give himself a chance at a good throw. Hopped around like he was barefoot on a bed of hot coals.

Wasn't even a classic strip sack. He saw the guy all the way and didn't protect the ball. A classic strip sack is when the QB gets blind sided and has the ball stripped away from him.

I appreciate your optimism OP but there isn't a defense in the league that this guy scares.

On point summary...
 

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Wait a minute? Dak has a lack of talent with defenses stacking the line to stop Zeke, because he’s the best rusher in the league and plenty of all pro talent up front, forcing Dak to have to throw the ball and beat them with his arm in this era where you can’t even touch the QB, and you have the audacity to compare this dude to a HOF talent who was one of the greatest QB playoff performers in NFL history in an era where DBs could massacre WRs and they allowed spearing over the middle?

A guy who by the end of his career had already had like 11 concussions?

Seriously what is it that you Dak fanboys smoke?
All Pro talent blocking for Dak? Where??? Show me, Einstein! Show me tape where this Oline has consistently played like All Pros!?!?

I DARE YOU TO SHOW US ALL!
 

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All Pro talent blocking for Dak? Where??? Show me, Einstein! Show me tape where this Oline has consistently played like All Pros!?!?

You clearly don’t know what blocking looks like when you said Dak had no time to throw it to Gallup.

Stats clearly show Dak has plenty of time in the pocket, top five on the league and he throw short all the time.
 

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You clearly don’t know what blocking looks like when you said Dak had no time to throw it to Gallup..
You're talking to a two-time All State ex-Center. I know waaaay much more about blocking than you, I can guarantee you that.

Quit yapping and simply show me, since you say they play like All Pros. Come on, step up and prove me wrong.
 

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I’m far from sold on Dak as the long-term answer.

But holy cow, you’d think the guy was playing like Nathan Peterman by the way some people talk about him.

He’s been a very good QB for most of his young career. These last 2 games have been promising... he’s starting to look like 2016 Dak again.
 

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I’m sorry that your son Dak is getting his feelings hurt because he’s scrubbing..

Actually Dak is doing just fine. He's making millions of dollars and has more women than he can handle.

What he isn't doing is whining like a ten year old on a message board. But if he ever needs that, I'm sure he will call you.
 

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Dak's seasonal progression in passer rating. Sorry to include 2016 and 2017, it's too easy to just leave that alone.

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He might have been over the line of scrimmage when he didn't throw to the open targets that Romo pointed out. I think Dak was uncertain if he was over the line.

If he thought he was over the line, then he made the right decision to run.

The LOS was at the 21 and Prescott was on the 26 when he tucked it.
 

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notice when Dak first plants he's looking at Gallup, for two full beats, Gallup is at the about the 23 and not open (even with the CB) when Dak turns to Beasley ... there's Kerigan ... he should have dumped it to Zeke.

From his plant step the progression is target 1 get's 2 beats 1001 1002 (for the double move), the second target 2 Beasley gets a single beat 1003, option 3 is the dump to Zeke. not back side to Swaim

The above is very basic to any timing O

We are so busy whining about Dak we missed a few key things
- the CB gave ground, costing Gallup 3 steps before the double move, killed timing
- IMO, Gallup should have broken the route to an out vs leverage when the CB gave ground
in the film room today, I'll lay money that was the discussion focused on
- the coverage switch on Beasley was near perfect
- Kerigan makes a heck of an athletic play. Dak blew the dump to Zeke.

the problem with a double move as a first read is that it takes two beats (the same time as 2 separate reads). From the shot gun - 2 beats til the QB plants, add 2 beats for the double move, Dak was all but hit on beat 5.when he looked at Beasley

and here's the killer, to go double move deep as your first read from your own goal line is bold... kinda crazy actually. Mindless given the game and season situation

we've seen Dez, Miles, and TO run this route a 100 times from X.
that Gallup didn't break it off is just a rookie mistake - I doubt he ever does that again

Dak freaked - that bugs me, it also bugs me the play call itself had sack risk written all over it.

it's possible Gallup had orders to keep going deep if the CB gave ground - and Dak was to come back to him after Beasley - making Mike the first option (vs man/press) and the 3rd option (vs zone). but that's even bolder and even crazier as it takes a full 6 beats - from your own end zone ... duh

that's deeper into Xs and Os than most like to contemplate, most of Dak's critics don't even know what a timing O is - let alone how weird the play calling is - I don't think many realize how wack a play call it was under the circumstances - this O is often trying to put square pegs in round holes.
 

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Yes, I know his fumble was unforgivable. He also whiffed on the two wide open wrs for td on a single play.

But you can see the confidence growing in his throwing, he's starting to look down field for those chunk plays. I say we stick it out with him this season.

I disagree. He missed wide open receivers all night, not on a “single play” and he never seems to call the blitz protections. He’s not improving.

But as for giving him a chance, what other choice do we have? It’s not like there is another QB on the roster. He’s our guy - this year and next.
 

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notice when Dak first plants he's looking at Gallup, for two full beats, Gallup is at the about the 23 and not open (even with the CB).

Disagree 100% - he was totally open. Dak knows that route. Quarterbacks don’t throw to where you are but where you are going.

It looks to me like Dak saw he was open and wanted to get him the ball. But that’s a tough throw and he also sees the blitzing linebacker. He was going to try to evade him, roll out to the left and heave it.

I don’t blame Dak on that play.
 

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Disagree 100% - he was totally open. Dak knows that route. Quarterbacks don’t throw to where you are but where you are going.

It looks to me like Dak saw he was open and wanted to get him the ball. But that’s a tough throw and he also sees the blitzing linebacker. He was going to try to evade him, roll out to the left and heave it.

I don’t blame Dak on that play.

hmm, maybe, look at it from another perspective. from the end zone cam on NFL.com

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018...ers?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2018102110

he may have been looking off the FS (and not at Beasley) when he turned away from Gallup - notice the CB is shocked Gallup didn't break wide

if I'm right about that - there's a 6 beat play from your own end zone
 

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notice when Dak first plants he's looking at Gallup, for two full beats, Gallup is at the about the 23 and not open (even with the CB) when Dak turns to Beasley ... there's Kerigan ... he should have dumped it to Zeke.

From his plant step the progression is target 1 get's 2 beats 1001 1002 (for the double move), the second target 2 Beasley gets a single beat 1003, option 3 is the dump to Zeke. not back side to Swaim

The above is very basic to any timing O

We are so busy whining about Dak we missed a few key things
- the CB gave ground, costing Gallup 3 steps before the double move, killed timing
- IMO, Gallup should have broken the route to an out vs leverage when the CB gave ground
in the film room today, I'll lay money that was the discussion focused on
- the coverage switch on Beasley was near perfect
- Kerigan makes a heck of an athletic play. Dak blew the dump to Zeke.

the problem with a double move as a first read is that it takes two beats (the same time as 2 separate reads). From the shot gun - 2 beats til the QB plants, add 2 beats for the double move, Dak was all but hit on beat 5.when he looked at Beasley

and here's the killer, to go double move deep as your first read from your own goal line is bold... kinda crazy actually. Mindless given the game and season situation

we've seen Dez, Miles, and TO run this route a 100 times from X.
that Gallup didn't break it off is just a rookie mistake - I doubt he ever does that again

Dak freaked - that bugs me, it also bugs me the play call itself had sack risk written all over it.

it's possible Gallup had orders to keep going deep if the CB gave ground - and Dak was to come back to him after Beasley - making Mike the first option (vs man/press) and the 3rd option (vs zone). but that's even bolder and even crazier as it takes a full 6 beats - from your own end zone ... duh

that's deeper into Xs and Os than most like to contemplate, most of Dak's critics don't even know what a timing O is - let alone how weird the play calling is - I don't think many realize how wack a play call it was under the circumstances - this O is often trying to put square pegs in round holes.
EXACTLY!!! Too bad the critics are not capable of understanding this. Plus, Linehan should have never called in this play underthe circumstance (3rd & 14 from the goal line). Linehan set up Dak and the Offense for failure.
 
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