Prime Romo would win the Super Bowl with the current Cowboys

Gator88

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No, I don't have it wrong.

I don't mind you saying I got something wrong, that definitely happens, but at least try to present some proof when you proclaim it. Pro bowls prove exactly nothing.
As compared to all the evidence you gave when you said he made the oline worse? The oline went from trash under Bledsoe to being considered one of the best olines in the league with Romo. Gurode and Davis never sniffed a Pro Bowl other than those years. I await your evidence.
 

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That doesn't count because apparently nobody believes the defense would have made a stop or we would win the next year.

His poor game in 2007 doesn't count either because Crayton also made an error and he gets all the blame.

Him being a turnover machine in the season ending losses to Eagle and Vikings in 2008 and 2009 don't count because we got blown out.

Week 17 losses in 2011 and 2012 don't count because nobody believes we could have won the SB anyway with the defense.

Nope, Romo only had a chance in 2016-2018 and Garrett ruined his guaranteed SB wins.
This is dumb
 

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Interesting how some are holding Dak needing Zeke and the Defense against him, to say he is not good without them or that Zeke,the Oline, this Defense etc...Is the reason for why Dak was successful or why the Cowboys won games under him. So, Dak needing certain parts around him to win is credited against him. (Saying he needs the perfect team around him to have a certain amount of success."

While at the same time Romo not having Zeke and what some perceive to be a current O Line better than the ones Romo had and a defense better than any which played on Romo's teams (This I agree with), is used as a way to give a free pass to Romo for not being able to have a team to make it to the NFC Championship game or Superbowl.

On one hand some believe that if Romo only had Zeke, Dak's 2016 offense, and this current D, how he would have been to or won the Superbowl by now.

On the other Dak having the team he had around him from 2016 until now is used against him as in "The only reason Dak won is because of fill in blank or Dak can't do it without this or that piece to the team."

Saying the only reason Romo didn't when because he didn't have Zeke and that Dak only accomplished winning games because of Zeke. Seems like double standards.

I believe that any successful playoff team will need a consistent running game and a solid team around the QB. But, seems like double standards where if Romo won with this current team he would have gotten some of the credit and not have it downplayed on needing the "perfect team" around him. Where Dak is downplayed for needing the same "perfect team", some feel like was all Romo needed to win it all.
 

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I think it’s a reasonable argument that if we had a better defense closer to what we have this year we might could have beat the Packers in either or 2014 and 2016 playoffs.
 

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Romo never had a Defense that was this good. He also never got to play with Zeke. Romo’s Quick release, sliding within the pocket, and Houdini escapability would make the o-line better. His accuracy would make Cooper, Beasley, and Gallup better. Too bad Dak makes receivers and the o-line worse.

So much goes into winning, including good fortune.

I go back to one of our best years under Romo (2007). We were supposed to have one of the best offensive lines that season, a solid running game and a good defense.

However, the Giants got on a roll playing even better defense and running the ball while we were battling through injuries in the receiving corps. (Terrell Owens was pretty much a decoy in that game and Terry Glenn was just coming back after being injured all season.)

The Giants' resurrected D tore up our powerful but slow line and figured out how to also stop our running game in the second half. Holes in the defense were exposed. And that decimated receiving corps has some major gaffes.

Then, there's also the non-catch against Green Bay, and the fumble by Murray in that game that hurt us just as bad.

If you want to say we would have won some of the games we've lost this season with prime Romo, I'd have to absolutely agree with you. The Super Bowl is an entirely different story with factors we can't foresee.
 

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Romo never had a Defense that was this good. He also never got to play with Zeke. Romo’s Quick release, sliding within the pocket, and Houdini escapability would make the o-line better. His accuracy would make Cooper, Beasley, and Gallup better. Too bad Dak makes receivers and the o-line worse.

Yeah.

And if unicorns were real, the world would be all candy cane forests and seas of swirly-twirly gum drops.

Be like Johnny Idina Menzel: Let it go.
 

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Double standards are the norm when it comes to discussing the QB position, specifically with Romo lovers. They even bash Aikman to prop Romo up.
Romo no doubt attracted many fans who placed him above the Cowboys. And we are beginning to see a similar pattern with Dak along with Romo detractors who have sided with Dak to prove they were right about Romo. A very tangled web.

I’m a critic of both.

But at least thus far I’d argue Romo generated a greater offense and was a more prolific passer. Id also argue Romo elevated those around him more. Was it enough? Obviously not. Dak appears to need a greater support group to be effective moving the ball and scoring.
 

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Romo never had a Defense that was this good. He also never got to play with Zeke. Romo’s Quick release, sliding within the pocket, and Houdini escapability would make the o-line better. His accuracy would make Cooper, Beasley, and Gallup better. Too bad Dak makes receivers and the o-line worse.

Great thing about hypothetical question it always turns out as you wish. There is no way of knowing,
 

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But at least thus far I’d argue Romo generated a greater offense and was a more prolific passer. Id also argue Romo elevated those around him more. Was it enough? Obviously not. Dak appears to need a greater support group to be effective.
Maybe the thread should just say "Romo was better than Dak".

And, yes, Dak appears to need greater support to be as effective as Romo. Romo obviously needed much more support to win something. Whether he actually would win if given an opportunity would be interesting to find out. We'll never know. We do know there were opportunities to keep seasons alive longer than when they ended and most of those opportunities were left on the table.
 

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Romo no doubt attracted many fans who placed him above the Cowboys. And we are beginning to see a similar pattern with Dak along with Romo detractors who have sided with Dak to prove they were right about Romo. A very tangled web.

I’m a critic of both.

But at least thus far I’d argue Romo generated a greater offense and was a more prolific passer. Id also argue Romo elevated those around him more. Was it enough? Obviously not. Dak appears to need a greater support group to be effective moving the ball and scoring.


Romo had again a Hall of Fame TE, and No1 WR at all points in his career (Austin/TO/Dez). So who needs a greater supporting cast? Not saying Dak is half the passer or playmaker Romo was but come on man, really.
 

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Is this team is so bad that people make these threads on a regular basis just to avoid reality?

It’s sad and pathetic, creating a hypothetical “fantasy land” instead of addressing the current issues.
Your right! CowboysZone needs to get back to addressing our current issues. We are not helping our team by talking about hypotheticals.

Great advice!
 

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Romo never had a Defense that was this good. He also never got to play with Zeke. Romo’s Quick release, sliding within the pocket, and Houdini escapability would make the o-line better. His accuracy would make Cooper, Beasley, and Gallup better. Too bad Dak makes receivers and the o-line worse.

No he wouldnt.

He more than likely breaks his back again.
 
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