I'm willing to give Dak one more chance

blumayne38

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Go look at what people said about Goff his rookie year. That was Fisher's last year. He looked god awful at times and people were already calling him a bust. Gurley even regressed at times. You fire that stale, toxic staff and look what happened. Goff now becomes legit and in year 2 of the McVay era, their offense is on pace to be one of the most explosive offenses of all time. So far they are ahead of their magical 1999 Greatest Show on Turf team.

Look at all the top QBs and who their coaches are. The only QB I see who excels in spite of his coach is Rodgers. Coaching matters. Big time with these young QBs and young teams in general.

Not only that, Kellen Moore is his QB coach. Kellen Moore! The guy Dak beat out and made him quit football because he was so bad.

I guarantee you if Dak got to work with Reid, McVay, Pederson, Belichik or the others, he would be much further long in development. Is Dak ever going to be a great? I just don't believe Dak forgot how to play football from his 2016 rookie year that no one other rookie ever had to now. It's coaching. We did not adjust to now all the teams having film on Dak. He's not progressing under this staff. And it isn't just him. Zeke is regressing. The OL is regressing. This coaching staff is the worst in football. They are trying to make Dak into a pocket passer and that isn't who he is.

If I am Dak and want to actually grow as a QB and try to get back to 2016, I get as far away as this team as possible.
Lol this is comedy
 

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wake up and smell the coffee Dak is not the answer
don't waste more time life is way too short.
Man no truer words, If fans cant watch film and see all the bad with Dak then wow. You cant fix what's wrong with him. Could a new scheme cover up some of his flaws yes against bad or average teams. But not against playoff teams and teams that play in your division. Dak is a decent back up that's it
 

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Lol this is comedy
You’re a clown if you think Dak’s regression isn’t directly related to the coaching staff. How many young QB’s have looked good with the worst coaching staff in the league? We literally have the worst offensive coach/OC combo in the league. That doesn’t play a significant part in the QB’s development?

Dak with Lincoln Riley is something I’m willing to see on the last year of a cheap rookie deal with no good FA QB’s and no draft prospects of note. Not only is there no better alternative at the moment, but history has shown time and time again how an innovative coach can change a QB’s career.
 

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Will Tua be the answer? He will go in the top 2 picks for sure, will we have a pick? Even so would we be able to land him.
 

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...with a different coaching staff.

Dak looks dreadful, but how many players could play well when the defense literally knows your play calls before you do? When your OC refuses to adapt to anything you do well and forces you to run plays that you don't? When they take out your freaking #1 WR on 1st and 10 to telegraph a run play and leave you in 2nd and long every time? When the guy coaching you every day is the same guy you beat out in practice?

I'm just saying. This may be a Dak problem and not a Garrett and Linehan problem, but I'm willing to take the final year of Dak's rookie deal to find out for sure.
As long as they bring in some legit competition for the position I am fine with keeping him to see if he can be any better under a different coaching staff.
 

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Will Tua be the answer? He will go in the top 2 picks for sure, will we have a pick? Even so would we be able to land him.
There’s also Dwayne Haskins and possibly Justin Herbert next year as well as a few other guys who could be legit franchise guys. 2020 QB draft is 3 deep at least in a year where it is possible no other team needs a QB in the first. Giants and probably Jags will get their guys this year. That leaves only the Chargers and Pats as teams looking for their next guy, and they’ll both have higher picks than us.

We could quite possibly be the only team in search of a QB in 2020 if Dak doesn’t work in 2019.
 

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Here's a 6th round grade for you:

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2015...w-about-2016-nfl-draft-prospect-dak-prescott/

Here's a nice write-up from PFF before the draft that brings up a lot of things we're all familiar with at this point:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-buyer-beware-when-drafting-these-3-quarterback-prospects

This is why I say Dak is lucky.. his INT tally should be a lot higher but apparently even DBs are so shocked by the duds he throws that they end up dropping it
 

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If it were up to him...Dak wouldn't be starting. So quit throwing KM under the bus for something he doesn't have control over. He was dealt this crap hand...and now he is told to "not fold". What else is he supposed to do? Dak isn't smart...doesn't put in the extra time to get better. Feels phony pressure. Cracks under pressure. Makes horrible decisions. You can't coach a guy up that won't learn from his mistakes...take care of the football.
So now he's dumb and lazy? Gotcha. :lmao:
 

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You’re a clown if you think Dak’s regression isn’t directly related to the coaching staff. How many young QB’s have looked good with the worst coaching staff in the league? We literally have the worst offensive coach/OC combo in the league. That doesn’t play a significant part in the QB’s development?

Dak with Lincoln Riley is something I’m willing to see on the last year of a cheap rookie deal with no good FA QB’s and no draft prospects of note. Not only is there no better alternative at the moment, but history has shown time and time again how an innovative coach can change a QB’s career.
Yeah. That about sums it up.
 

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And in college he led his team to a #1 ranking much like he led the cowboys to 13-3 his rookie year, and was one blatant uncalled hold against David Irving from taking the Cowboys to the NFC championship game. Obviously he has faults but maybe the next coach will show they're not a big deal in the right offense.
There is not a coach that can change Dak. Just because his college team was ranked number one for a week or two doesn’t mean that he will be a good pro QB. It is an embarrassment that he starts every week.
 

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...with a different coaching staff.

Dak looks dreadful, but how many players could play well when the defense literally knows your play calls before you do? When your OC refuses to adapt to anything you do well and forces you to run plays that you don't? When they take out your freaking #1 WR on 1st and 10 to telegraph a run play and leave you in 2nd and long every time? When the guy coaching you every day is the same guy you beat out in practice?

I'm just saying. This may be a Dak problem and not a Garrett and Linehan problem, but I'm willing to take the final year of Dak's rookie deal to find out for sure.

Totally with you on this. Garrett and the entire offensive staff should be gone and a coach who will run an offense suited to Dak’s strengths should be brought in. If Dak fails in that circumstance, then it’s time to move on and not re-sign him.
 

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There is not a coach that can change Dak. Just because his college team was ranked number one for a week or two doesn’t mean that he will be a good pro QB. It is an embarrassment that he starts every week.

You’re right but Dak doesn’t need changing. He needs to be allowed to do what he does best. That’s it. Just look to the three wins this season. In all three, they ran a totally different offense designed around Dak’s strengths. Now tell why, in their five losses, they forced Dak to try and be a Troy Aikman type pocket passer? Don’t we all know he isn’t suited to that? Why don’t Garrett and Linehan know it if we do? Is it possible they want Dak to fail so they can replace him with a pocket passer? I don’t know but something is seriously wrong the way they keep forcing Dak to be something he isn’t even though he has proven he can lead you to,wins if you let him play a certain way.
 

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Garett or someone else needs to take over playcalling now. Too many things make absolutely no sense within this offense.

It’s not the playcalling. It’s the gameplanning. The three wins were completely different gameplans than the five losses yet they keep going back to the gameplan that results in loses.
 

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I understand what you're saying, but for 24 games he was pretty damn consistent. He made very few stupid mistakes. He played within his capabilities, but he made some amazing throws when needed. Those who won't admit that he made some great passes need to review the games. I'm not saying he carried the team like the goat, but he made throws which weren't 3 yard dump offs. Then Atlanta happened, and he's been a piece of crap ever since.

His play has been very consistent, oggd before and bad after that Atlanta game.


Not that "first 24 games" crap again...

In 2016 he had games where he looked just as bad as he does now. The Giants and Vikings come to mind.

In 2017 , before Atlanta , he had games where he looked just as bad as he does now. The Denver game comes to mind.

In college, he had games where he looked just as bad as he does now. Alabama comes to mind.

You know why he looked bad in those games?
Defenses focused on stopping the run and taking away the short stuff and it worked.

All defenses we have played so far have publicly came out and said that in fact, that is the game plan to stopping our offense with Dak.

I'm surprised it took the NFL this long to figure that out. That's why in this league you can't have a one trick pony QB. Teams will figure out your weakness and exploit it. It was Dak's job to become a good pocket QB this off season. He still looks like the same QB he was in Mississippi ST...

It is what it is.
 

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Not that "first 24 games" crap again...

In 2016 he had games where he looked just as bad as he does now. The Giants and Vikings come to mind.

In 2017 , before Atlanta , he had games where he looked just as bad as he does now. The Denver game comes to mind.

In college, he had games where he looked just as bad as he does now. Alabama comes to mind.

You know why he looked bad in those games?
Defenses focused on stopping the run and taking away the short stuff and it worked.

All defenses we have played so far have publicly came out and said that in fact, that is the game plan to stopping our offense with Dak.

I'm surprised it took the NFL this long to figure that out. That's why in this league you can't have a one trick pony QB. Teams will figure out your weakness and exploit it. It was Dak's job to become a good pocket QB this off season. He still looks like the same QB he was in Mississippi ST...

It is what it is.
They was the gameplan for every single one of even those first 24 games. And yes, the Vikes shut us down. But they were elite at that time.

Go watch the games and you don't see the same Dak. I'm not defending him, he's clearly very very bad. But he wasn't this bad then.
 

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You’re a clown if you think Dak’s regression isn’t directly related to the coaching staff. How many young QB’s have looked good with the worst coaching staff in the league? We literally have the worst offensive coach/OC combo in the league. That doesn’t play a significant part in the QB’s development?



Dak with Lincoln Riley is something I’m willing to see on the last year of a cheap rookie deal with no good FA QB’s and no draft prospects of note. Not only is there no better alternative at the moment, but history has shown time and time again how an innovative coach can change a QB’s career.

I'll give Dak 1 more year on his rookie deal. I will also bring in some competition at QB, just to see if he can keep the job with fair competition.
 

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You’re a clown if you think Dak’s regression isn’t directly related to the coaching staff. How many young QB’s have looked good with the worst coaching staff in the league? We literally have the worst offensive coach/OC combo in the league. That doesn’t play a significant part in the QB’s development?

Dak with Lincoln Riley is something I’m willing to see on the last year of a cheap rookie deal with no good FA QB’s and no draft prospects of note. Not only is there no better alternative at the moment, but history has shown time and time again how an innovative coach can change a QB’s career.
You Dak fanboys are pathetic. It's everyone else's fault but Daks right? Smh.
 

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At the end of the day, regardless of how terrible the coaching is, Dak simply can't hit the throws. Dak has 1 job, get that football into the hands of his receivers. He can't. His accuracy is shot. No amount of coaching changes will change that.
 
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