Amari revisited

Source, please?

Second, does that make sense to you? The Raiders left the deal on the table because they didn't like the Titans offer to swap picks. That means the Titans we're willing to part with JUST a first-round pick.
In summary, the Cowboys find out that the Titans offered a first round pick but didn't pull the trigger because the Titans also wanted to swap second round picks with the Raiders. That sounds like the Titans weren't really willing to part with their first-round pick.
So, once again, Jerry Jones got desperate. He decided to give up a pick when even the Titans were less than willing to give up a first round pick for nothing more in return.

Anyway you slice it, we gave up more than any other team did. We got schnookered. Now, Amari might be the final piece to the puzzle, and all these hypotheticals will be irrelevant - if they aren't now. ;)

But if we could have gotten Amari for cheaper (and I believe we could have) then we should have. You don't overpay for an item you can get for less. Just my take.

If the Cowboys wouldn't have offered their deal and they only offered a 2nd rounder.......I don't see why the Raiders wouldn't take the Titans pick. They get a extra 1st rounder only having to move back some spots in the 2nd round.
 
It's not that simple. Rookies come cheap for 4, potentially 5 years. If Cooper keeps it up, we're going to be paying him 18M a year, or so.
Yes, but even from the cost angle, I'll take one Cooper over 3 Taco's, and we weren't going to get 3 Taco's.
 
If the Cowboys wouldn't have offered their deal and they only offered a 2nd rounder.......I don't see why the Raiders wouldn't take the Titans pick. They get a extra 1st rounder only having to move back some spots in the 2nd round.
But they didn't. The Titans offer came first. If they had a sure first rounder why not take it?
 
But they didn't. The Titans offer came first. If they had a sure first rounder why not take it?
Because they didn't want to swap picks...not only that but it's clear the Cowboys and Raiders have a great relationship they have been trading with each other every year.
 
Cooper's understanding on how to run a route to get open is freaking amazing. May be the best route runner that has ever put on a Cowboys uniform.
 
No, two time Pro Bowler--great player. Dak hit 7 different receivers because Cooper frees them up with double teams. Frees up running game by pulling safety out of the box--just saying

Uh no. The difference was the OL play. They were opening up big holes for Zeke and Dak had plenty of time to survey the field most of the game. That was the best the OL has played all year. Cooper was one-on-one all night. Dak just kept missing him. Guy should have had 150 yards receiving.
 
I'm not saying we don't need an upgrade at TE - I'm saying I'm not willing to give up valuable picks for TE, WR, or RB. In the past few years, we've given up first round picks for RB and WR while we haven't used a first round pick on a QB since 1989. You see the problem here?

We got lucky with Romo as an undrafted FA - that won't be happening again.

Which 1st round QBs would you have picked these last few years? Lol
 
It hasn't changed at all.


He's pretty impressive tho. He's producing and opening up the offense for Zeke to finally eat.

I gotta trust the FO on this one. They've been hitting it outta the park in the draft. If they didn't see a must have prospect in the 2019 draft - especially a WR that they were rumored to draft - then for me it makes sense that they pulled the trigger on the Amari trade. The Cowboys scouts must believe in Amari moreso than a 2019 1st rounder for the present and future of the franchise. We'll see if they are right.
 
The thread I was gonna post this in was merged or deleted as I was writing it. Same topic, Amari. Where each of us are with the trade, two games and three weeks after it went occurred:

For me, I thought it was a bad trade on two fronts -- The first hang up I had was da Raidahs return, a possible top-10ish pick. That pick is incredibly valuable, and at the time of the trade, for me, Cooper wasn't worth that kind of price, as his play had regressed, production dipped, and there were other concerns floating around him. He is young, had value as a high-reward gamble, but our 1st was too rich for my blood. The news slapped me in the face. I was stunned, and it lasted for some days. On top of that, I couldn't buy into the notion that the FO knew we were gonna draft a WR with that pick, 5 months before the draft, with a full college season still to be played before the then. I thought that line was just rhetoric to help people, like myself, rationalize the trade. A regressing Carr or otherwise, I didn't see Cooper as a no-doubter current 1WR. Or that he would ever be what he was his first two years. There's, what, ~10-15 true 1WR in the NFL at any given time? Probably closer to ten if we're being truly honest and critical about the players.

Now, with that said, through two games with us, I think he's back on that trajectory as an elite WR. Running just exquisite routes. He is damn near breaking ankles out there. I don't remember him being this kind of route technician in Oakland those first two years. He was dynamic, but through two games, he's wow'ing me. The talent and skill he's flashed thus far is undeniable and exciting in my eyes. And for that I feel a lot better about the price we paid. I don't like that we get zero cheep years from him, but if we landed one of the league's top 5-10 WRs for the next 4-5 years in Amari, I can live with getting no cheap years. So be it. We also have to hope and have faith that he remains focused, driven, hungry after his eventual extension. Dude is hungry right now, no denying that. He's making it work with a QB whom, on any given drive, you have no clue what your getting. Cooper's play smacks in the face from the TV.

Second issue I had was the notion that getting a supposed good WR, even true #1 in Big D, was gonna save our floundering 3-4 season, and turn us into a contender. And that a paid Cooper was worth more to our org and future than 5 years of cheap rookie contract. No matter the position, if you hit on that first rounder, those rookie contracts are crack for a functioning, viable org. I didn't view us as contenders on trade day, and still don't... but I didn't even view us as a team that would sniff the division title and a one-and-done exit in the playoffs.

We just beat the Eagles (did you hear!?) and Cooper was a large part of it, I feel. We are back in the hunt for the NFCE crown. For now. And probably still one-and-done if we somehow happen to make it... but I didn't think we stood a chance in Philly yesterday and here we are. I thought last night was going to be the game, the Sunday night massacre, that brought wholesale changes to the Cowboys. But alas. Live to fight for our season next Sunday. Hopefully we don't go into the fetal position @ ATL... like we did @ Skins, a team that isn't good, a week after we exposed the Jags to the NFL. A week after using Dak differently. Letting him run. We didn't use Dak's legs till the fourth quarter against the Skins, but by then it was too little too late. We have Cooper now, and he will help us win, and eternal optimist in me, which has been mostly dormant this season, is starting to percolate.

I don't know how to evaluate professional athletes -- for every one I get right, I get three or more wrong -- so there's no ego about being wrong about Cooper. It's only been two games so far, but his talent is undeniable, and I believe the trade will grow on me. I want Dallas to be great again, and am more than fine suffering with the team and our fellow fans to get there, provided there's a clear vision, direction, executive leadership coming from the front office. Right now, it doesn't seem that way. And that is putting it very nicely. I am terrified of Dak, too. I was one of his most ardent supporters here for a year and half, maybe two. It's hell seeing Dak play like this. I had hoped for a 15 year starter, and through last season into this, I thought we had a chance for that in Dak. Now it's looking to be an NFL career that tops out as a good backup and nothing more, imo. The first 8 words of this paragraph, tho.

TL/DR: I don't blame ya! :)

That's an awesome post right there. And don't apologize for it being "too long", it's not. It perfectly sums up your opinions and thoughts, and they echo my own.

I was in the same position as you were when I got the news that they had made the trade (I was on vacation in Florida and it darn bear ruined my dinner!). I thought they totally overpaid. And I still do to some degree, but the fact is that several teams were offering close to that first rounder, so that was the cost of getting the deal done.

And nobody who's still critical of the deal is bringing up the names of all of the first round receivers that have been total flops, like Kevin White, Laquon Treadwell, Corey Coleman, or John Ross, to name just a few. Cooper is a proven commodity. Whatever he might be, a bust isn't it.

And one of the biggest factors is his age. 24 years old, and wise beyond his years, an anti-diva receiver. If you were looking for that young receiver for your young team, you will never find a better option for the role. It didn't exist. If the team was looking for their next set of triplets, this was the guy. Now it's simply up to Prescott to prove that he can hold up his end of the bargain.

Dak needs to prove that he can be the quarterback of this trio, and make the decisions and throws necessary. He missed Cooper several times down the field when he was open for big plays. Hopefully, that's just getting timing going down after just three weeks together and it will improve. This offense sorely needs it.

And one last thing, has anyone brought up the fact that the Eagles lost their best cornerback (by far) for the season as a result of him tearing his ACL trying to keep up with Cooper? Because that happened.
 
That's an awesome post right there. And don't apologize for it being "too long", it's not. It perfectly sums up your opinions and thoughts, and they echo my own.

I was in the same position as you were when I got the news that they had made the trade (I was on vacation in Florida and it darn bear ruined my dinner!). I thought they totally overpaid. And I still do to some degree, but the fact is that several teams were offering close to that first rounder, so that was the cost of getting the deal done.

And nobody who's still critical of the deal is bringing up the names of all of the first round receivers that have been total flops, like Kevin White, Laquon Treadwell, Corey Coleman, or John Ross, to name just a few. Cooper is a proven commodity. Whatever he might be, a bust isn't it.

And one of the biggest factors is his age. 24 years old, and wise beyond his years, an anti-diva receiver. If you were looking for that young receiver for your young team, you will never find a better option for the role. It didn't exist. If the team was looking for their next set of triplets, this was the guy. Now it's simply up to Prescott to prove that he can hold up his end of the bargain.

Dak needs to prove that he can be the quarterback of this trio, and make the decisions and throws necessary. He missed Cooper several times down the field when he was open for big plays. Hopefully, that's just getting timing going down after just three weeks together and it will improve. This offense sorely needs it.

And one last thing, has anyone brought up the fact that the Eagles lost their best cornerback (by far) for the season as a result of him tearing his ACL trying to keep up with Cooper? Because that happened.

Why do people find bringing up the names of busts at a given position (in this case WR) somehow persuasive?

Pick any position on the field (C , LB, QB, OT, etc.) and you can cherry pick names of guys that have busted.

Why don't we forfeit our 1st rounder every year out of pure fear. Brilliant.
 

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