Question for the Dak Detractors

[CalPolyTechnique]

One day he is, then the next he's a worse passer than Prescott by a large margin.

There's truth to that.

 

[erod]

Not true. His arm talent has been inconsistent.

If you want Mahomes/Goff/Brees, good luck finding him. You will always come up short when comparing your QB to the best in the NFL.

I really wish you'd stop repeating this arm talent thing. It's a really weak argument w/ no teeth. We've all seen Dak thread some windows and toss some beautiful deep stuff. What really hurts Dak is consistency, which is the downfall of many/most young QB's. It would be really interesting to see what an NFL mind at OC could do w/ Dak. Riley would be great, I agree.

Dak is incredibly inaccurate. Sure, he throws 4-5 nice balls a game like any professional quarterback can. But he throws 4-5 real stinkers, too, along with a lot of dinks and short completions that are sketchily thrown.

He isn't terrible. He's just so limited. He doesn't even trust himself.

 

[ClintDagger]

My thing is, don’t extend Dak. Bring in a new coaching staff that is new age offensive minded and let’s see if Dak shows marked improvement in ‘19. If he doesn’t, offer him a team friendly new contract and be on the look out for your QB of the future. If Dak demands franchise QB type money then let him walk. I really don’t think Dak’s demand will be that high on the open market. I think teams are realizing what the ceiling is for game managers like him and Alex Smith for example in this offensive explosion era league.

 

[G2]

Fitzpatrick is a better passer than Prescott by a large margin.

To the defense.

 

[Philmonroe]

Your just saying.......what? it takes more then a game or 2 for a QB and receiver to link up and know each other, good grief, that's like what Football 0.1

I'm responding to someone who had the opposite opinion based on a few games. You didn't criticize them so obviously you're on your groupie routine. Spare me that crap. Using your groupie logic come at the poster that made me post what I did or spare me with your bias bs.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Good question.......IMO NO!!!!! but see for yourself

What's interesting is there isn't one QB on OP list that would be a clear upgrade from Dak.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Bridgewater

I think it's definitely a possibility though. He was already a league average starter his first two years with the Vikes despite an ancient scheme and poor supporting cast.

But then here is how he did in preseason this year.




I'll say one thing- I like his ball placement for better YAC than I do Dak.
Both he and Dak are illusive, but in different ways. Dak uses his big frame to shrug off defenders, while Teddy uses sudden change of direction.
Both try to limit TOs.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I want to see Dak with a new coaching staff before making a final judgement on him

There are things Dak is doing (or not doing) on the field that has nothing to do with coaching or play-calling; it's simply issues with his ability or limitations of talent.

I don't want to bring a new coaching staff and wait another 2-3 years (because you know that will be the refrain..."he just needs time to adjust") and after 7-8 years say "well, looks like Dak wasn't the guy after all."

 

[sbark]

Dak has done some positive change....don't see him doing the jump pass with feet spread that got him in trouble a lot last year

Even lately not seeing the reverse rollout to his left that teams have pegged

Even stepping up in pocket at times

Hang with him, has his weakness's .....but a work in progress
A new innovative scheme would be a big help, but then look at the missed Td pass from the 5 to n.brown, and wonder if it's in dak repitore to get cute.

 

[silvrNblue]

I'm responding to someone who had the opposite opinion based on a few games. You didn't criticize them so obviously you're on your groupie routine. Spare me that crap. Using your groupie logic come at the poster that made me post what I did or spare me with your bias bs.

YAY Im a groupe...uhh whatever that is??? Sure hope it's like the Tony Romo slobber gang groupie wagon tho!! And I quoted YOUR post because it was so outstandingly made, what with all that knowledge of Coop being a Dez average and all after THREE games....

 

[Kevinicus]

Just unretire Romo; its that simple.

I know you're joking...but for the short term, and assuming an actual desire to compete with the big boys, that's about the only option (and probably one of the least likely).

The longer term solution will most likely have to come from the draft. Probably not until 2020 unless we can luck into someone. The team is not in a good position right now. They have a subpar QB with very little resources to address the situation soon. I have no idea what White has in him, or any QBs coming out (I don't watch college ball), but he didn't show me anything impressive in the preseason - not even the arm he supposedly has.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

You just draft another fourth round dink and dunk guy and keep it moving. I think what most people forget is that the QBs taken in the first round are not the best college quarterbacks, they’re the best quarterback prospects. The guys in the mid rounds are usually from more successful programs, have more years of experience and are better upstairs... they just have average or worse arms, are short, or have some other deficiency that makes people think they will never be “elite” QBs. Dak has minimal throwing instincts/talent, but he knew a pro offense from day one, has good intangibles and knows how to hand off to Zeke. Find another Dak.

 

[Sydla]

The Jets didn't want Bridgewater..... he is not as good as Dak.....END of STORY

And why did they trade him?

Because they were turning over the franchise to their first round QB in Darnold.

 

[CouchCoach]

Sooo, just like that, all those "complimentary" players get placed on the team, and our sucky QB Dak who is now flipping hash can watch his predecessor winning SB's... wow I'm glad it was this easy.

If he doesn't get them while he is the QB, this teams is doing nada.

 

[Maverick84]

give me a guy who can squat 600 pounds.

give me Vinny Testaverde.

just for clarification, since nobody "liked" my post (which sent me into a deep depression that I've only just recovered from) - I was only kidding

 

[Sydla]

Sooo, does this formula stand if the boys make the NFCC?????????

Depends.

If we make the NFCC game because our defense plays out of their minds and our offense still continues to scuffle along, sure, the plan still stands.

Just because we might make a NFCC game (we aren't by the way) doesn't mean you stop trying to get better.

 

[Sydla]

That's an opinion, you don't know what his ceiling is. That is the exact type of false claim that makes it appear people hate Prescott.
Another sure sign is when you criticize Prescott but also post things he's done very well and the anti-Dak crowd come in full force ignoring the criticism and calling you a dak slobberer or other idiotic names.
Look around dude - it's everywhere.

The guy literally said that people who criticize Dak are just idiotic Romo lovers.

Of course the notion that Dak is a middling QB is an opinion. But it's certainly not illogical or invalid. It's a perfectly acceptable position that a lot of people outside of Cowboys land that wouldn't necessarily have the inherent biases we have as fans have. Are they all Romo lovers too?

That's the point. It's perfectly fair and logical to think Dak just isn't a great QB based on his play, etc. What's illogical and stupid and some of the dumbest stuff uttered on this board is chalking up Dak criticism to things like being bitter Romo got benched.

 

[Sydla]

There are things Dak is doing (or not doing) on the field that has nothing to do with coaching or play-calling; it's simply issues with his ability or limitations of talent.

I don't want to bring a new coaching staff and wait another 2-3 years (because you know that will be the refrain..."he just needs time to adjust") and after 7-8 years say "well, looks like Dak wasn't the guy after all."

Which is why, at a minimum, if I were GM I'd seriously consider taking a QB with our 2nd or 3rd round pick this draft.

You simply can't go all in on Dak. You need a safety net here so I would pepper the QB position if I could.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I love when I'm asked a plan now when my plan was never to acquire the stiff.

Hey, we are where we are. Unless you have a time machine, you make plans going forward.

 

[CouchCoach]

And why did they trade him?

Because they were turning over the franchise to their first round QB in Darnold.

And the rule seems to be do not have a challenger to the QB1 on the team. The Packers made that work but it was unsettling to the team dynamics.

Back when Landry ran that Morton-Staubach circus, he thought he would get the best from each by pitting them against each other. We didn't see the best from each until they were no longer competing against each other and got to meet against each other on different teams.

The mistake was made by management when Romo was healthy enough to return. They didn't want a competition, they had already decided all of the coverage they were receiving for a 4th round QB was enough to move on. It's not about the best QB, it is about the best QB to get Booger the coverage. Romo was the most covered and polarized QB in NFL history and never accomplished jack. Brady and Manning didn't get the spin he got. And that's the game to this owner.

 

[G2]

The guy literally said that people who criticize Dak are just idiotic Romo lovers.

Of course the notion that Dak is a middling QB is an opinion. But it's certainly not illogical or invalid. It's a perfectly acceptable position that a lot of people outside of Cowboys land that wouldn't necessarily have the inherent biases we have as fans have. Are they all Romo lovers too?

That's the point. It's perfectly fair and logical to think Dak just isn't a great QB based on his play, etc. What's illogical and stupid and some of the dumbest stuff uttered on this board is chalking up Dak criticism to things like being bitter Romo got benched.

It's ok that you don't get it. I've seen fans here that are clearly still bitter. Some even claim Romo is a better QB than Aikman. You either are unaware or don't want to admit it. Either way, it doesn't change the fact that it's a reality. So, you can call it stupid and dumb, whatever. You're simply wrong and don't care that you are.