Gallup's numbers should rival Cooper's

[Clarkson]

Quincy Carter could make that throw. Chad Hutchinson could make that throw. Jeff George.

It's easy. Maybe the coverages bring down completion percentage but throw deep down the sideline is known to be an easy throw.

Downfield over the middle of the field is the more difficult throws or an out route downfield that requires timing. This is known.

so you have zero statistics to offer? just your feelings on who could make what throw? no proof anywhere?
you can't answer any of my questions.
how many 1st round WRs put up 1000+ yards and 8+ TDs?
how many 3rd round WRs?
do you have evidence Carter, Hutchinson, and George could make that throw better than Dak?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Why say I'll let you then? Seems straight forward to me.

Well I'm TELLING you what I meant by it. Are you going to go with what you THOUGHT or with what I'm TELLING you?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

so you have zero statistics to offer? just your feelings on who could make what throw? no proof anywhere?
you can't answer any of my questions.
how many 1st round WRs put up 1000+ yards and 8+ TDs?
how many 3rd round WRs?
do you have evidence Carter, Hutchinson, and George could make that throw better than Dak?

He's Catch17.....he doesn't have anything but the thoughts in his brain.

 

[Keithfansince5]

A wide receiver had to adjust to a pass thrown by his qb. What a foreign concept........its crazy that Dak's receivers are the only ones who have to adjust to his deep passes.....

That is true receivers do need to adjust to some passes. Most real good QB's however, force their receivers to adjust less often than average or below average QB's. I imagine even you could agree to that right?

 

[Runwildboys]

Mine is too but I know this last game for sure he connected on the right sideline to him. He hit Tavon Austin on that sideline too for him to drop the touchdown.

He connected with Coop one time on the right sideline, nearly overthrowing him, and Coop was able to speed up and stretch for it, with just enough room to take 2 steps before going OB. (Just watched that play a few minutes ago)

 

[Keithfansince5]

Well I'm TELLING you what I meant by it. Are you going to go with what you THOUGHT or with what I'm TELLING you?

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[CATCH17]

lmao, false. please cite them. and please also cite the average completion% on this type of throw. to suggest that a "good" QB completes this throw every time is ludicrous.

The completion percentage does not prove whether that specific throw is easy or not because it's still far down field but to complete that pass takes very little talent if the player is wide open.

The problem is most teams do everything possible to take away deep passes down the sideline and teams force the throw a lot because the sideline protects them from making mistakes.

It's one of the safer passes and it's easy because the QB is basically stepping back and launching.

This doesn't take a lot of skill.

 

[CATCH17]

so you have zero statistics to offer? just your feelings on who could make what throw? no proof anywhere?
you can't answer any of my questions.
how many 1st round WRs put up 1000+ yards and 8+ TDs?
how many 3rd round WRs?
do you have evidence Carter, Hutchinson, and George could make that throw better than Dak?

I don't need statistics. This is just well known in football that it's a safe easy throw.

Regardless of what the statistics may say everyone knows that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He connected with Coop one time on the right sideline, nearly overthrowing him, and Coop was able to speed up and stretch for it, with just enough room to take 2 steps before going OB. (Just watched that play a few minutes ago)

What do you mean? Most of his catches were on the right sideline. The two touchdowns were on the right sideline.

 

[Clarkson]

i don't think anyone would argue dak has missed gallup deep a good bit.
however, acknowledging that, these are my questions:

1). How often do "good" QBs complete that type of pass?
2). What's the overall average of all QBs?
3). Does any QB hit that pass every time? (we know the answer to this - it's no. the answer is no).
4). Has Dak missed more than the average?

Screaming "IF DAK HIT GALLUP EVERY TIME HE WAS OPEN DOWN THE SIDELINE HE'D HAVE 2000 YARDS AND 15 TDS!!!" is pointless. no QB hits that throw every time. we don't even know if dak has missed more than the average (unless someone has bothered to look it up to try and use actual numbers to support their point instead of their feelings).

give me statistics to support your point. that's what's needed here. maybe you're right and with even the average QB Gallup has 500 more yards and 3 more TDs. so far, i haven't seen a single statistic in support of the argument. asking someone to support their argument with actual data isn't crazy.

 

[Clarkson]

I don't need statistics. This is just well known in football that it's a safe easy throw.

Regardless of what the statistics may say everyone knows that.

lmao.
so the statistics wholly disagree with you. but you "know" it. you just "feel" it.
if it were one of the easier throws, it would be completed more often than most other throws. the fact that it's completed significantly less often indicates the exact opposite of what you're asserting with absolutely zero evidence.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The completion percentage does not prove whether that specific throw is easy or not because it's still far down field but to complete that pass takes very little talent if the player is wide open.

The problem is most teams do everything possible to take away deep passes down the sideline and teams force the throw a lot because the sideline protects them from making mistakes.

It's one of the safer passes and it's easy because the QB is basically stepping back and launching.

This doesn't take a lot of skill.

Maybe he should've threw it on the right sideline all game and he would've had more than 7 points at that time since it such a easy throw lol.

 

[Runwildboys]

What do you mean? Most of his catches were on the right sideline. The two touchdowns were on the right sideline.

I'm rewatching the game now. Just started the second half. The stress of that game clouds my memory, so I have to watch again. lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That is true receivers do need to adjust to some passes. Most real good QB's however, force their receivers to adjust less often than average or below average QB's. I imagine even you could agree to that right?

Which qb's are you referring to? Which qb's consistently throw to their receiver and they don't have to adjust to their passes?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

lmao.
so the statistics wholly disagree with you. but you "know" it. you just "feel" it.
if it were one of the easier throws, it would be completed more often than most other throws. the fact that it's completed significantly less often indicates the exact opposite of what you're asserting with absolutely zero evidence.

Its this urge or feeling he gets lol. Forget stats....who needs stats or facts when you can just go with your urge?

 

[HellCrowe]

SMH. Our fans just can’t be happy.

True for some of us but these are the plays that get us a championship or not. Happy for true W but we need to stop making the excuses and get better.

 

[Clarkson]

Its this urge or feeling he gets lol. Forget stats....who needs stats or facts when you can just go with your urge?

it just makes no sense.
if it were an easier throw to make than most others, it would be successful more often than others.
the fact that it's statistically completed less often means it's not easy.
it's like saying a 98 MPH fastball with movement is easier to hit than a 90 MPH straight fastball despite hitters having more success hitting the 90 MPH fastball. it flies in the face of logic and statistics.

 

[Cowboyz88]

Oh, so since he's thrown more accurate balls to Cooper, that means it's not his fault that he doesn't throw accurately to Gallup?

Ridiculous.

Most of his haters claim Dak's incapable of doing anything well, when a number of his stats refute that claim.

Then, when you factor in Cooper's stats, Dak is actually much better than the haters surmise. How can Cooper have great stats without a QB actually making the throws to get those stats?

Besides, I CLEARLY said Gallup's numbers could be better, which is on Dak. Move on.

 

[Clarkson]

True for some of us but these are the plays that get us a championship or not. Happy for true W but we need to stop making the excuses and get better.

do you have statistics that say Dak misses that throw more than the average QB?
what about more often than, say, the top-10 QBs by passer rating?

 

[CATCH17]

Its this urge or feeling he gets lol. Forget stats....who needs stats or facts when you can just go with your urge?

It is known in football that the deep ball down the sideline is a safe easy throw to make.

When average fans like yourself are in awe over the guy that is throwing these type of passes the NFL guys look at being able to complete that pass as the bare minimum and are looking more at the deep outs on the sideline or routes over the middle of the field over a linebackers head and in front of the safety.


Jamarcus Russell can complete the deep sideline pass. Daunte Culpepper can complete this pass. It's not a big deal to rare back and throw the ball deep down the sideline. IT's all the in-between passes that are difficult.