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[QuincyCarterEra]

Not a tweet, but didnt think it warranted it's own thread.

There has been a big discussion about who will be cut once Tavon comes back. That's not necessary as Tavon is not on the IR, we are currently carrying him on the 53. Same with Irving.

The players on IR are Parker Ehinger, Datone Jones, Marcus Martin, Showers, Twill, and Cedrick Wilson.

So hypothetically we could add Tavon, Irving, Lee, Ehinger or Datone Jones, and only cutting one of Lenior, Olawale, Reid, or Redmond.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

No.

Wentz has big arm talent that Dak can only dream of but outside of Cowboy land people will consider his bad back and rebuilt knee as the reason he is having a down year.

What makes his arm talent better? Tangibly

 

[CATCH17]

What makes his arm talent better? Tangibly

Accuracy downfield.

The ability to make the more difficult throws.


Please don't bring up some stupid stat either. Please. The arm talent isn't close.

 

[pansophy]

If wINTz is worth $30 million, Dak gonna get paid too.

I would be okay with 24 for Dak given our cap situation if he can continue to play well through the end of the year.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Accuracy downfield.

The ability to make the more difficult throws.


Please don't bring up some stupid stat either. Please. The arm talent isn't close.

Want to guess who has completed a higher % of their deep passes in all three seasons? Not three seasons combined, I'm talking every single season.

Eagles fans blast Wentz because of his downfield inaccuracy.

 

[CATCH17]

Want to guess who has completed a higher % of their deep passes in all three seasons? Not three seasons combined, I'm talking every single season.

Eagles fans blast Wentz because of his downfield inaccuracy.

And I do not care what the numbers say and neither would any NFL talent evaluator when comparing the 2.

% numbers get skewed.

I do not care that Wentz has better numbers this year. He was better last year.

I do not care that Eli Manning is having one of his better statistical season. He's awful.

You gotta watch the games and then take a dive into the numbers. Not the numbers first.

Dak's completion percentages along with guys like Eli is just a big who cares for me and should be for anyone who watches football and not their computer screen.

Dak is a limited player. Carson Wentz isn't.

 

[Idgit]

Wentz has the intangibles too.

Wentz is basically a perfect QB but his mobility is not what it was a year ago because of the injury.

A healthy Carson Wentz is way better then Dak could hope to be.

Everyone besides a Cowboy fan knows this.

That's popular consensus, anyway.

How much better does he have to be, though, to make up for the fact that he can't stay on the field? That he cost you 3-4 other good players to get in the first place? To offset the fact that you're going to have to continue to pay him ~15-20% more than you'll have to pay Dak to keep him? And to offset the fact that he doesn't have the late-game success that Dak has demonstrated so far in his career?

He might be the better player. Is he the more useful piece of a championship puzzle, though? I don't think he is. And That's probably the more important question.

 

[ShortRound]

lol ok....

 

[CATCH17]

That's popular consensus, anyway.

How much better does he have to be, though, to make up for the fact that he can't stay on the field? That he cost you 3-4 other good players to get in the first place? To offset the fact that you're going to have to continue to pay him ~15-20% more than you'll have to pay Dak to keep him? And to offset the fact that he doesn't have the late-game success that Dak has demonstrated so far in his career?

He might be the better player. Is he the more useful piece of a championship puzzle, though? I don't think he is. And That's probably the more important question.

That's an acceptable argument for Dak.

Dak's positives are the intangibles, he's healthy, and somehow he's clutch.

 

[ShortRound]

 

[ShortRound]

 

[CATCH17]

lol ok....

Their system stinks but that's what you get with Gruden.

People love the personality but his schemes are trash.

He's Bill Callahan with a lot of attitude.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

And I do not care what the numbers say and neither would any NFL talent evaluator when comparing the 2.

% numbers get skewed.

I do not care that Wentz has better numbers this year. He was better last year.

I do not care that Eli Manning is having one of his better statistical season. He's awful.

You gotta watch the games and then take a dive into the numbers. Not the numbers first.

Dak's completion percentages along with guys like Eli is just a big who cares for me and should be for anyone who watches football and not their computer screen.

Yeah, thats the difference between you and I. It's why we dont see eye to eye very often.

I prefer to come to conclusions based off reality, facts, and stats.
You tend to he on the side of I think this is the case, so I'm right and dont bother bringing up tangible evidence because my eye ball test(which could be limited to two games a year) says this.

Wentz stats arent better this year than last year, and it's true he was better last year. So that doesnt really help the argument whatsoever.

% numbers tend to be less skewed than other numbers because they account for all sample sizes.

 

[CATCH17]

Yeah, thats the difference between you and I. It's why we dont see eye to eye very often.

I prefer to come to conclusions based off reality, facts, and stats.
You tend to he on the side of I think this is the case, so I'm right and dont bother bringing up tangible evidence because my eye ball test(which could be limited to two games a year) says this.

Wentz stats arent better this year than last year, and it's true he was better last year. So that doesnt really help the argument whatsoever.

% numbers tend to be less skewed than other numbers because they account for all sample sizes.

Well the argument was Wentz has better arm talent and you immediately ran to google.

You shouldn't need google to see that Wentz has better arm talent.

Not 1 NFL team would go to google first to see who has better arm talent between the 2. They would watch them play.

Dak has to win in other ways. His talent as a passer is not his strength.

 

[Little Jr]

And I do not care what the numbers say and neither would any NFL talent evaluator when comparing the 2.

% numbers get skewed.

I do not care that Wentz has better numbers this year. He was better last year.

I do not care that Eli Manning is having one of his better statistical season. He's awful.

You gotta watch the games and then take a dive into the numbers. Not the numbers first.

Dak's completion percentages along with guys like Eli is just a big who cares for me and should be for anyone who watches football and not their computer screen.

Dak is a limited player. Carson Wentz isn't.

Lol Wentz has more fans that are cowboy fans than he does that are eagle fans. Lol exaggeration of course.

A LOT of eagle fans complain about Wentz and dogs him like some here do Dak. Maybe not quite as bad. Lol Watson is another one that his fans complain about. He actually gets the same complaints from Texan fans as Dak does from cowboy fans. Grass isn't always greener on the other side.

Fans seem to be overly critical of their own or overly positive.

 

[Nav22]

Wentz has the intangibles too.

Wentz is basically a perfect QB but his mobility is not what it was a year ago because of the injury.

A healthy Carson Wentz is way better then Dak could hope to be.

Everyone besides a Cowboy fan knows this.

LOL so Wentz wasn’t healthy this year or in 2016?

That’s cute. It’s also cute how he’s not tough enough to play through a stiff back. All but ruled out on a Wednesday from Philly’s elimination game.

Not every QB can be a tough guy, I suppose. Wentz surely isn’t one of them.

Hey, isn’t “toughness” an intangible???

 

[CATCH17]

LOL so Wentz wasn’t healthy this year or in 2016?

That’s cute. It’s also cute how he’s not tough enough to play through a stiff back. All but ruled out on a Wednesday from Philly’s elimination game.

Not every QB can be a tough guy, I suppose. Wentz surely isn’t one of them.

Hey, isn’t “toughness” an intangible???

Listen.. I know im on a Cowboy board so you guy will be stupid and actually convince yourselves that Dak Prescott is as talented as Carson Wentz but don't fool yourselves. The Dak > Carson Wentz debate ends on this forum.

You can LOL all you want but that's the reality.

 

[Nav22]

Listen.. I know im on a Cowboy board so you guy will be stupid and actually convince yourselves that Dak Prescott is as talented as Carson Wentz but don't fool yourselves the Dak > Carson Wentz debate ends on this forum.

You can LOL all you want but that's the reality.

You said Carson Wentz was a “perfect QB”, which is FAR more stupid than anything anyone else has said in this thread.

THAT is the reality.

Wentz isn’t clutch and now he’s displaying his lack of toughness. “PERFECT!!!!!!!”

 

[JoeyBoy718]

If wINTz is worth $30 million, Dak gonna get paid too.

Mahomes is really the only one worth that size contract but I'm still not convinced he could put up these numbers year in year out. Wentz has had 2 bad years and 1 good year in his career. Trubisky could get paid if he continues to help the Bears win. There aren't really any elite young QBs in the league. It's still all about Aaron, Tom, Ben and Drew (wow that sounds like the whitest boy band).

 

[CATCH17]

You said Carson Wentz was a “perfect QB”, which is FAR more stupid than anything anyone else has said in this thread.

THAT is the reality.

Wentz isn’t clutch and now he’s displaying his lack of toughness. “PERFECT!!!!!!!”

From a talent perspective he is perfect yes.