Dak Prescott's Strengths

[PAPPYDOG]

I see this as a common theme on this board and the radio shows: We need an OC that can design plays around Dak's strengths.

IMO here are Dak's strengths: Great Leadership skills, Great Character, good work ethic, big body and tough to bring down, 'good' runner, Durable, throws well outside the pocket

(I wholeheartedly admin the big 3 he has: Leadership, Character and Durability are amazing traits to have in your franchise QB and those are not teachable by coaching, these skills are inherent)

So what would an offense designed around his strengths look like exactly?

Hey pelvus...did you hear the one about the Girl who fell in love with a tree??

 

[CowboyRoy]

I see this as a common theme on this board and the radio shows: We need an OC that can design plays around Dak's strengths.

IMO here are Dak's strengths: Great Leadership skills, Great Character, good work ethic, big body and tough to bring down, 'good' runner, Durable, throws well outside the pocket

(I wholeheartedly admin the big 3 he has: Leadership, Character and Durability are amazing traits to have in your franchise QB and those are not teachable by coaching, these skills are inherent)

So what would an offense designed around his strengths look like exactly?

Better weapons. He needs more designed runs or QB keeper type stuff. More roll outs, pick plays, crossing patterns. A less predictable offense, more creative where receivers are getting open by design.

Better Oline that gives him confidence and time to throw. Some bigger targets with speed. Definitely more deep balls in there. PLAY ACTION!!!!

 

[CowboyRoy]

Totally agree on less two TE sets. The defenses need to be spread out more, Zeke can run out of any formation and I'm much rather see a safety or cornerback try to tackle Zeke than a Lineman or LB. Our TE's aren't that great either so they are mainly used for blocking, so again that means more Linebackers on D.

As to the speed comment? Gallup is the second fastest player on the team behind Tavon and him and Dak have Zero chemistry. Amari is fast as well, and Beasley is one gigantic fast twitch muscle. Zeke is fast as hell for his size, I'm not seeing a lack of speed.

Slants and Crosses are mainly what Beasley runs and that's what Dez ran alot of as well. IMO, Dak is not comfortable making those throws in the middle of the field where there are tight windows.

Cooper is the fastest guy on the team. Gallup is a rookie and makes many rookie mistakes. Like "route speed consistency" There was an entire piece on how Gallop has improved, but still has a ways to go.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I see this as a common theme on this board and the radio shows: We need an OC that can design plays around Dak's strengths.

IMO here are Dak's strengths: Great Leadership skills, Great Character, good work ethic, big body and tough to bring down, 'good' runner, Durable, throws well outside the pocket

(I wholeheartedly admin the big 3 he has: Leadership, Character and Durability are amazing traits to have in your franchise QB and those are not teachable by coaching, these skills are inherent)

So what would an offense designed around his strengths look like exactly?

Amari: “Hey Dak, I’m single covered and I’ve got my man beat! Throw it up!!!”

 

[CF74]

Totally agree on less two TE sets. The defenses need to be spread out more, Zeke can run out of any formation and I'm much rather see a safety or cornerback try to tackle Zeke than a Lineman or LB. Our TE's aren't that great either so they are mainly used for blocking, so again that means more Linebackers on D.

As to the speed comment? Gallup is the second fastest player on the team behind Tavon and him and Dak have Zero chemistry. Amari is fast as well, and Beasley is one gigantic fast twitch muscle. Zeke is fast as hell for his size, I'm not seeing a lack of speed.

Slants and Crosses are mainly what Beasley runs and that's what Dez ran alot of as well. IMO, Dak is not comfortable making those throws in the middle of the field where there are tight windows.

Beasley is quick but has no speed. We need a faster version of Beasley from the draft...

 

[eromeopolk]

I see this as a common theme on this board and the radio shows: We need an OC that can design plays around Dak's strengths.

IMO here are Dak's strengths: Great Leadership skills, Great Character, good work ethic, big body and tough to bring down, 'good' runner, Durable, throws well outside the pocket

(I wholeheartedly admin the big 3 he has: Leadership, Character and Durability are amazing traits to have in your franchise QB and those are not teachable by coaching, these skills are inherent)

So what would an offense designed around his strengths look like exactly?

After Landry finally gave in, see the early 70's offense with Staubach. Also, see the 90's offense with Aikman. Neither one of those QBs was the centerpiece of the offense. But they knew they could not win without them.

Staubach ran a ball control offense with Thomas, Hill and Garrison early in his career. Aikman ran a ball control offense with Emmitt Smith. Dak is bigger. He only has to wake up and be himself adding his running to this ball control offense.

 

[Hook'em#11]

A gimmicky offense that relies heavily on running the ball which doesn’t translate to long term sustainable success in today’s NFL.

If your QB can’t stand in the pocket, read a defense, and throw the ball down the field in an accurate and timely manor your OC is going to be pretty freaking handcuffed. Sure, there are different things an OC can do to help Dak, but what happens when the D adjusts? Consistently completing passes 10+ yards down the field isn’t much to ask and no matter what gimmicks you come up with winning big/important games long term is going to come down to that.

THIS, This right here is the real deal. And, guess what , you can have an " Gimmicky"..offense that relies heavily on the run IF you have a QB that can do what right now Dak can't.

 

[rags747]

Totally agree on less two TE sets. The defenses need to be spread out more, Zeke can run out of any formation and I'm much rather see a safety or cornerback try to tackle Zeke than a Lineman or LB. Our TE's aren't that great either so they are mainly used for blocking, so again that means more Linebackers on D.

As to the speed comment? Gallup is the second fastest player on the team behind Tavon and him and Dak have Zero chemistry. Amari is fast as well, and Beasley is one gigantic fast twitch muscle. Zeke is fast as hell for his size, I'm not seeing a lack of speed.

Slants and Crosses are mainly what Beasley runs and that's what Dez ran alot of as well. IMO, Dak is not comfortable making those throws in the middle of the field where there are tight windows.

Where do get that Gallup is the 2nd fastest on the club? He ran a 4.51 at the combine.

 

[jwooten15]

Dak better than romo.

If he develop a deep ball he’s a top 5 quarterback

Can you please just stop with your "Dak is the best ever" agenda? You're brand new here and it's already old

I know you're just trying to be an irritant, but at least show SOME objectivity.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I see people saying crossing routes, slants, seams, etc. Dak would have to improve 10 fold before I would let him throw those type of passes. He is hesitant, he wants to see the Wr OPEN by several yards, before he let's it rip. Throwing late over the middle of the field would be a disaster for this team with Dak as he currently is. So those are what you call for a good QB, which he is not. The question is what are his strengths that could be highlighted with a better OC. And I really don't know of anything he does well consistently enough for me to say, i can hang my hat on that. And that is a big problem. He has flashes where he sets up great and let's it go and looks the part of an NFL QB and then on the very next throw, his feet all over the place, he is running from pressure that isn't there and throwing as he falls backward or something crazy. Don't know If I have ever seen a 3 year starter in the NFL that plays this inconsistently, not game to game but play to play, it's mind boggling. If we could get 4th Q Dak to play all the other 3 Q consistently, this team would be impossible to beat.

 

[PelvusBrestley]

Cooper is the fastest guy on the team. Gallup is a rookie and makes many rookie mistakes. Like "route speed consistency" There was an entire piece on how Gallop has improved, but still has a ways to go.

Wrong, Tavon Austin is the fastest receiver on this team, like I already said. Tavon ran a 4.34 and Amari ran a 4.42 in the combine Tavon ran an unofficial 4.25 that was adjusted to 4.34.

I was responding to the poster who commented this team needs more speed. Gallup is fast, the comment wasn't about his ability as WR or his chemistry with Dak.

Regardless of the numbers, the statement that we need more speed is wrong, this team has plenty of speed at the WR group as well as RB.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Wrong, Tavon Austin is the fastest receiver on this team, like I already said. Tavon ran a 4.34 and Amari ran a 4.42 in the combine Tavon ran an unofficial 4.25 that was adjusted to 4.34.

I was responding to the poster who commented this team needs more speed. Gallup is fast, the comment wasn't about his ability as WR or his chemistry with Dak.

Regardless of the numbers, the statement that we need more speed is wrong, this team has plenty of speed at the WR group as well as RB.

Having speed with a scat receiver that never plays is useless.

Gallup at 4.51 is good. TE's are slow, Beasley is slow. Need more guys that can get more YAC. Other than Cooper, these underneath routes don't go anywhere.

 

[sureletsrace]

Bootlegs are being stopped because every Defensive Coordinator in the league knows he wants to get outside the pocket. A few a game maybe, but you do understand the defenses are specifically scheming against this right? It's like Michael Vick in his rookie year throwing bombs all over the field in his rookie year. Year 2 Defensive Coordinators saw that he struggled rolling to his right, guess what they all did - shut down the left side. He didn't follow up his performance.

I wholeheartedly agree on the run more. He is durable and can take punishment. I have to wonder though how much of that is the coaching staffs lack of confidence in his backups if he gets hurt. Regardless I agree, run him more.

Play Action, I see play action every game many, many times. I think the reason you don't see it more is he really isn't a good deep ball thrower, he needs a lot of separation from his WR and it's harder to get play in and play out when running deep routes (unless it's a busted assignment) But in a ball control offense you can't afford to lose that play because someone was covered and Part B) This line is so banged up do you trust them to be able to hold those blocks long enough? Play Action takes longer, the QB has to hold the ball longer.

Good stuff

Regarding the bootlegs and rolling out, yes, those are absolutely being actively contained. What plays can be run to combat that? Surely there must be some sort of counter. Maybe screens outside of the players that are collapsing the edges of the pocket? Interesting theorycrafting for sure.

 

[jwitten82]

Cooper is the fastest guy on the team. Gallup is a rookie and makes many rookie mistakes. Like "route speed consistency" There was an entire piece on how Gallop has improved, but still has a ways to go.

Gallup slowed up on that one play and now all of a sudden he has "route speed consistency"? Damn, dude, those overthrows were all on Dak except one. Just admit it

 

[PelvusBrestley]

Better weapons. He needs more designed runs or QB keeper type stuff. More roll outs, pick plays, crossing patterns. A less predictable offense, more creative where receivers are getting open by design.

Better Oline that gives him confidence and time to throw. Some bigger targets with speed. Definitely more deep balls in there. PLAY ACTION!!!!

Better Weapons? I can't even comment on that because we aren't watching the same team I guess.

I hear that one a lot - more creative scheme where receivers are getting open by design. There isn't a single receiver on this team getting double covered (Amari soon will). If you can't complete passes to receivers with single coverage you don't belong in the league. So we want an OC to scheme receivers open that are only demanding single man coverage? I don't understand that at all. You've watched the separation that Amari is getting with single coverage, you've seen Beasley his entire career beating single coverage, Hell Brick Feet Witten was getting open with single coverage. This is not a getting open problem by the WR group. You can watch game film on any of the 14 games we've played and see players getting open.

Play Action - see my earlier comments, same with crossing patterns and roll outs.

 

[PelvusBrestley]

I see people saying crossing routes, slants, seams, etc. Dak would have to improve 10 fold before I would let him throw those type of passes. He is hesitant, he wants to see the Wr OPEN by several yards, before he let's it rip. Throwing late over the middle of the field would be a disaster for this team with Dak as he currently is. So those are what you call for a good QB, which he is not. The question is what are his strengths that could be highlighted with a better OC. And I really don't know of anything he does well consistently enough for me to say, i can hang my hat on that. And that is a big problem. He has flashes where he sets up great and let's it go and looks the part of an NFL QB and then on the very next throw, his feet all over the place, he is running from pressure that isn't there and throwing as he falls backward or something crazy. Don't know If I have ever seen a 3 year starter in the NFL that plays this inconsistently, not game to game but play to play, it's mind boggling. If we could get 4th Q Dak to play all the other 3 Q consistently, this team would be impossible to beat.

Precisely my point, what exactly is a Strength that an offensive philosophy can be built around? All his strengths are intangibles like leadership, durability and character and while those are all great qualities to have in your teams QB, they aren't things you can build offensive schemes around. I just want to see those with that viewpoint backup those comments..... The only one I can agree on is run the ball more with him (even though that has inherent flaws as a philosophy)

 

[PelvusBrestley]

Having speed with a scat receiver that never plays is useless.

Gallup at 4.51 is good. TE's are slow, Beasley is slow. Need more guys that can get more YAC. Other than Cooper, these underneath routes don't go anywhere.

With all due respect, that wasn't the comment I was responding to though. It was simply this team doesn't have speed. That is false.

 

[Corso]

I see this as a common theme on this board and the radio shows: We need an OC that can design plays around Dak's strengths.

IMO here are Dak's strengths: Great Leadership skills, Great Character, good work ethic, big body and tough to bring down, 'good' runner, Durable, throws well outside the pocket

(I wholeheartedly admin the big 3 he has: Leadership, Character and Durability are amazing traits to have in your franchise QB and those are not teachable by coaching, these skills are inherent)

So what would an offense designed around his strengths look like exactly?

His preference to wear bow ties is pretty strong...

 

[CowboyRoy]

Better Weapons? I can't even comment on that because we aren't watching the same team I guess.

I hear that one a lot - more creative scheme where receivers are getting open by design. There isn't a single receiver on this team getting double covered (Amari soon will). If you can't complete passes to receivers with single coverage you don't belong in the league. So we want an OC to scheme receivers open that are only demanding single man coverage? I don't understand that at all. You've watched the separation that Amari is getting with single coverage, you've seen Beasley his entire career beating single coverage, Hell Brick Feet Witten was getting open with single coverage. This is not a getting open problem by the WR group. You can watch game film on any of the 14 games we've played and see players getting open.

Play Action - see my earlier comments, same with crossing patterns and roll outs.

Not talking about Cooper pal. Try to keep up. And we saw what happens when one legitimate weapon is added to the passing game. Imagine a few more.

Cant beat single coverage? That's the point. Beasley is nice, but is too small and basically gets tackled when he catches it.

Now if your going to blame Dak for all this then don't even bother responding.

 

[CowboyRoy]

With all due respect, that wasn't the comment I was responding to though. It was simply this team doesn't have speed. That is false.

Doesn't have speed or enough speed?