Twitter: Cavanaugh: Penalties Against Cowboys are Hogwash

[HungryLion]

A lot of the calls are hogwash.

That’s the problem with holding penalties as they stand today. The refs enforcement of the rules are entirely subjective. Thus giving them the power to sway a game in one direction or other.


We have all seen the refs give make up calls. And call holding on offense to kill drives when a team is dominating or holding on the defense to keep drives alive when a team needs a score.

All in order to keep games close until the end.

 

[ESisback]

well JJ agreeing will certainly raise the bar for the refs to make sure that there are extra ones called now

Plus, it’s an indirect dig to Goody The Grand Poobah. They’re ALREADY throwing BS fines at our players.

 

[aria]

Use worse players so that they don't call nonsense penalties? What?

If the officials are conspiring against the Cowboys, what difference does it make what player they call the penalty on? Calling a fake penalty on the same player over and over again would be dumb because it would be more obvious.

 

[jazzcat22]

No one's ever 100% Even on these boards people don't remember what they just saw and bias colors what actually DID happen. This is why I produce video every chance I get. Even then some are convinced they saw what they saw and knew what the official was thinking when he saw it too. So officials surely aren't going to get everything right either. That's why they have conferences if more than 1 saw the same play.

So you ask others to show videos, and you say you produce videos. But yet I have not seen any. Unless I missed them.

Of course they will not be right all the time. But they are far more wrong with us than they are for other teams. I mean other teams as in our opponents.
Watch our opponents in other games, they do not get the calls like they do against us. Rather a missed call or wrong call.

How many games have the Steelers and Packers won, because of a call that benefits them at the right time.
I know for some reason you want to take the high for for the officials. But IMO opinion as I SEE the games and calls. We are on the wrong side way more often than not. And that is not a coincidence. Nothing will change my opinion on that. And it is not being biased as a fan either. I will see it and call it objectively.

Did we get away with that Jaylon hit to the head against the Saints, yes we did. But they also missed a face mask earlier on the Saints that would have given us a first down.

They missed another one against the Eagles, same thing, would have had a first down. Then that play where Zeke did get the first down, but was penalized for the lowering the helmet hi, may not have occurred. A different play may have been called.

The thing is, these happened in the open field, with refs looking right at them. And they choose to not call it or call it. Not called on us, called against us not called on them but called for them. It has been a pattern for a long time.

 

[MarcusRock]

If the officials are conspiring against the Cowboys, what difference does it make what player they call the penalty on? Calling a fake penalty on the same player over and over again would be dumb because it would be more obvious.

LOL. No one ever called conspirators bright. Just like not calling holding penalties on opponents for such and such games straight right when Jerry wasn't happy with Goodell. They never thought anyone would catch on and almost got away with it until these people got on the case and grabbed a stats book.

 

[Future]

You can have your hands within another guy's frame and still "restrict" them. Tyron's hold on the Washington player is a great example. You can't pull a guy's collar when he's trying to break away from you to tackle a runner.

And that "no holds called against opponents" story is just drilled down stats to boost a "we wuz robbed" narrative. If you look at overall penalties, there's little to no variance at all. Heck, a few weeks back we were the least penalized team in the entire league. The press knows they'll get clicks if they can drum up a faux conspiracy by mining for aberrations in drilled-down stats because emotional knee jerks will never investigate and just harp on this new "truth" as "proof." Works every time so why stop?

Fine, then it should be called 50 times a game. You can find that stuff on every play. Here's another ticky-tack one.


This is an issue when this happens

This happens

and this happens

That's 8 games, while they're calling all of these borderline ones on the Cowboys.


There's also this nonsense

https://twitter.com/McCoolBCB/status/1065868225571778560

 

[Kaiser]

So you ask others to show videos, and you say you produce videos. But yet I have not seen any. Unless I missed them.

This is why no one takes him seriously. A blatant hold against a Dallas opponent and he trots out every excuse in the book. A blatant hold against a Cowboy and you get posts like this thread.

 

[Kaiser]

Just like not calling holding penalties on opponents for such and such games straight right when Jerry wasn't happy with Goodell.

In English please.

 

[Flamma]

I've seen plenty of holds on Tyrone Smith that I cannot find the actual hold. I don't know what these refs are looking at. Yes Tyrone holds on occasion. My main point is that they are calling holds that never happened.

 

[ESisback]

A lot of the calls are hogwash.

That’s the problem with holding penalties as they stand today. The refs enforcement of the rules are entirely subjective. Thus giving them the power to sway a game in one direction or other.


We have all seen the refs give make up calls. And call holding on offense to kill drives when a team is dominating or holding on the defense to keep drives alive when a team needs a score.

All in order to keep games close until the end.

This will be disputed, of course, by a very small and vocal faction whose #1 priority is to be “right” and to have the last word. The team winning, or even simply enjoying the football season playing out, is an afterthought to these people. They’ll spend the vast majority of their time arguing the finest details, no matter how small, scoffing and skeptical, going to great lengths to research stats. They NEED validation, guarantees, and a black and white world to control. They don’t trust their own eyes and ears, let alone someone else’s.

 

[gimmesix]

I think that the holds called on Tyron are 100% evidence that the league conspires against the Cowboys.

I have resisted that forever, but there's just no way the same bs calls can be made against him over and over again, and the Cowboys' opponents never get the same call.

I think it is like Jerry says. There are times I've seen Smith just stop a DE in his tracks and shove him to the ground. He does this while blocking like every other lineman, but it looks like holding to the officials. (Technically, he is grabbing the DE, but he's doing it in a way that is supposed to be allowed by the league or they would call holding on every play.)

 

[aria]

Fine, then it should be called 50 times a game. You can find that stuff on every play. Here's another ticky-tack one.


This is an issue when this happens

This happens

and this happens

That's 8 games, while they're calling all of these borderline ones on the Cowboys.


There's also this nonsense

https://twitter.com/McCoolBCB/status/1065868225571778560

What was so borderline about the Eagles recovering the fumble on the 5 yard line? or the 90 yard TD they immediately flagged for a commonly used offenisve maneuver as soon as they saw he was going to score?

 

[GenoT]

Just what this board needs...yet another “league conspiracy” thread for the tinfoil helmet crowd.

 

[MarcusRock]

How many games have the Steelers and Packers won, because of a call that benefits them at the right time.

Jesse James from the Steelers and Clay Matthews earlier this year would like to say hi.

So you ask others to show videos, and you say you produce videos. But yet I have not seen any. Unless I missed them.

Then that play where Zeke did get the first down, but was penalized for the lowering the helmet hi, may not have occurred.

This is the last video I produced on this site to show that Zeke clearly targeted the DB on that play. Several here agreed it was a good call by the official while others continued to say that Zeke was "just falling." What say you?

 

[Future]

What was so borderline about the Eagles recovering the fumble on the 5 yard line? or the 90 yard TD they immediately flagged for a commonly used offenisve maneuver as soon as they saw he was going to score?

Did I say that there have been no calls that go against opponents?

 

[Kaiser]

l while others continued to say that Zeke was "just falling."

Link or it didn't happen.

 

[Creeper]

The Cowboys are actually one of the least penalized teams in the league with 88 penalties. That puts them around 23rd in penalties. They are 5th fewest in all flags thrown.

HOWEVER, they have also benefited the least from penalties called against their opponents. Their opponents have only been penalized 69 times, fewest in the league, which is 10% less than any other team in the NF

 

[aria]

Did I say that there have been no calls that go against opponents?

You said “I think that the holds called on Tyron are 100% evidence that the league conspires against the Cowboys.”

So you think the calls on Tyron are 100% evidence that the league conspires against the Cowboys but you also acknowledge that other teams get bad/horrible game changing calls as well?

 

[Vtwin]

Paul Alexander was on Sirius the other night. He talked about how much the definition of holding has changed over the last few years

According to him the old standard of, you can do most anything if you keep your hands inside, is not valid anymore.

Smith's go to technique has been to use his strength to control his man by grabbing him inside the shoulders.

 

[ESisback]

Just what this board needs...yet another “league conspiracy” thread for the tinfoil helmet crowd.

Personally, I don’t think it’s some giant, league wide, conspiracy. I think it’s a small group of influential types that play “in the shadows”. They utilize subjective penalties to influence the outcome of certain games, smirk and jab indirectly through the media, throw out fines and punishments inconsistently, etc. Anyone that disputes the existence of malfeasance is in denial, especially knowing the obscene amounts of money involved.