Twitter: Cavanaugh: Penalties Against Cowboys are Hogwash

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You said “I think that the holds called on Tyron are 100% evidence that the league conspires against the Cowboys.”

So you think the calls on Tyron are 100% evidence that the league conspires against the Cowboys but you also acknowledge that other teams get bad/horrible game changing calls as well?
Yes, the difference is that it happens to the Cowboys every game. Just b/c it happened one time against Philly in Dallas' favor doesn't change anything. If anything, it means that Jerry might have started paying the refs himself lol
 

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Yes, the difference is that it happens to the Cowboys every game. Just b/c it happened one time against Philly in Dallas' favor doesn't change anything. If anything, it means that Jerry might have started paying the refs himself lol
Every game? What about New Orleans? What happened there?
 

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Again, I asked YOU to break down why it wasn't a hold, not some random internet dude saying it wasn't. This is what's never done by those claiming Cowboys victim status.

But anyways, on the first one, I agree it's not a hold on Tyron but could be on Martin in the background (would need to see a reverse angle as to how his man fell) so maybe it was a miscall on the number by the official? The second one is crappy detail but it looks as if Tyron grabbed the OL's collar as he reached towards the runner going past them. That's what they call "restriction" and should absolutely be a hold by the rules. Easy to call since Zeke ran right next to them. Not even going to debate an old one. This thread's about this year.

Cowboys aren't claiming victim status. They just want explanations on why those penalties are held on Smith. Secondly, why aren't the Cowboys opponents getting called for the same or even worst holds?
 

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This is the last video I produced on this site to show that Zeke clearly targeted the DB on that play. Several here agreed it was a good call by the official while others continued to say that Zeke was "just falling." What say you?

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I did't say that was a bad call. I even said that it was called, but did not say it was a bad call.
It was a subjective call though, and it was odd that that play happens numerous times throughout all games. But they waited until then to call it for the 1st time.

so be it, that was one that could go either way. But I could see why it was called. But if not called, I could see that too.
 

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Anyone that disputes the existence of malfeasance is in denial, especially knowing the obscene amounts of money involved.

Exactly, show me any 20 Billion dollar entity and I'll show you things getting shaded in their favor.

Meanwhile every single thread showing any poor call has these two guys jumping in with "You idiots think there a conspiracy!!!".

But ask them if the NFL really did "lose" the video of Ray Rice coldcocking his wife? Silence. Was the NFL operating like a swiss watch in suspending Zeke after their own investigator said the charges were nonsense? Silence. Did Major League Baseball turn a blind eye to PEDs until they had no other choice? Silence.
 

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What are you referring to?

The refs were horrible both ways in that game.
Oh...I thought you said the refs were 100% conspiring against the Cowboys, that would disprove your theory, along with the Eagles game.
 

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Exactly, show me any 20 Billion dollar entity and I'll show you things getting shaded in their favor.

Meanwhile every single thread showing any poor call has these two guys jumping in with "You idiots think there a conspiracy!!!".

But ask them if the NFL really did "lose" the video of Ray Rice coldcocking his wife? Silence. Was the NFL operating like a swiss watch in suspending Zeke after their own investigator said the charges were nonsense? Silence. Did Major League Baseball turn a blind eye to PEDs until they had no other choice? Silence.

Or why has Pete Rose been shut out for betting on his own team to win, when far worse things done by others have been forgiven or overlooked all together?
 

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This is the last video I produced on this site to show that Zeke clearly targeted the DB on that play. Several here agreed it was a good call by the official while others continued to say that Zeke was "just falling." What say you?

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I see a video where Zeke did the same thing that RB’s all over the league do, on a weekly basis. Delivering a blow to the oncoming defender.

Its done every game by call carriers, yet Zeke is the first offensive player to get flagged for it.

Dumb rule and even worst implementation of the rule by NFL referees.

Let’s face facts. In that situation Zeke can either lower his shoulder or he is going to get nailed in his stomach or legs by a defender coming in at full speed.

Neither scenario is really safe. But that’s football.
 

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Oh...I thought you said the refs were 100% conspiring against the Cowboys, that would disprove your theory, along with the Eagles game.
2 out of 14 games doesn't disprove anything. Especially when there were the same types of calls against the Cowboys in both. You're forgetting that refs are also incompetent, and just make bad calls. No amount of tinfoil hat theories changes that.

But there's just no logic to say that Tyron is getting called for the same blocking he's always done, routinely, and opponents go 8 games without at least 1 holding call, for the second year in a row. That's either the most unlikely coincidence of all time, or something is amiss.
 

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Fine, then it should be called 50 times a game. You can find that stuff on every play. Here's another ticky-tack one.


You don't think that's a hook or twist? Looney got beat immediately on that play.

From the rules:
ARTICLE 3. ILLEGAL BLOCK BY OFFENSIVE PLAYER.
(c) Use his hands or arms to materially restrict an opponent or alter the defender’s path or angle of pursuit. It is a foul
regardless of whether the blocker’s hands are inside or outside the frame of the defender’s body. Material restrictions
include but are not limited to:
(1) grabbing or tackling an opponent;
(2) hooking, jerking, twisting, or turning him; or
(3) pulling him to the ground.

Like I said before being inside the frame of the lineman doesn't matter. You can claim either a hook, twist, or that he got taken to the ground on that play. Choose.
 

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It's clear to me that the NFL uses our games as a platform to show off some random rule at times.

The holding thing is just a joke too.


There is something going on with officials in Cowboys games. Not saying it's the reason for any losses but I can only look back on a few games and think the officials actually benefited us more then they hurt.

We've basically played an entire year of football with our opponents being allowed to hold.
 

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Personally, I don’t think it’s some giant, league wide, conspiracy. I think it’s a small group of influential types that play “in the shadows”. They utilize subjective penalties to influence the outcome of certain games, smirk and jab indirectly through the media, throw out fines and punishments inconsistently, etc. Anyone that disputes the existence of malfeasance is in denial, especially knowing the obscene amounts of money involved.

Do they hold meetings anywhere or transmit messages via homing pigeons so no one can trace their contact?
 

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Cowboys aren't claiming victim status. They just want explanations on why those penalties are held on Smith. Secondly, why aren't the Cowboys opponents getting called for the same or even worst holds?

Show the evidence of the opponents not getting called whereas we do get called in games. For every one, you can show the opposite where we benefit as well. Maybe, just maybe, refs miss and make bad calls everywhere. You'd have to observe every single game played to gather "proof" or you're just running with 1/32nds of data and forming a theory. Not very scientific.
 

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I did't say that was a bad call. I even said that it was called, but did not say it was a bad call.
It was a subjective call though, and it was odd that that play happens numerous times throughout all games. But they waited until then to call it for the 1st time.

so be it, that was one that could go either way. But I could see why it was called. But if not called, I could see that too.

I said in that thread that calling the penalty could be debated for sure, especially if it wasn't called consistently IF others have done the same thing. I never saw anyone produce a play where a RB did what Zeke did and wasn't called. People seem to "remember" seeing it but we all know what fan glasses make people "remember," like Zeke "just falling quietly to the ground" on that play, lol.
 

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All anyone wants, league wide, is continuity. While I don't think there is a conspiracy against the Cowboys, you can't argue how lopsided holding calls have been against them for years. When you add in the fact that two penalties called on the Cowboys this season have literally never been called before, and it gets very hard to argue against a Cowboys bias.
 

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I see a video where Zeke did the same thing that RB’s all over the league do, on a weekly basis. Delivering a blow to the oncoming defender.

Its done every game by call carriers, yet Zeke is the first offensive player to get flagged for it.

Dumb rule and even worst implementation of the rule by NFL referees.

Let’s face facts. In that situation Zeke can either lower his shoulder or he is going to get nailed in his stomach or legs by a defender coming in at full speed.

Neither scenario is really safe. But that’s football.

Again, people have memories of other runners doing this, but did any change their path to run towards a defender and aim down with their helmet? I'd like to see that. I said one could debate it being called if it's inconsistent but where is the footage of other runners doing the same thing and not being flagged? by the book, you're saying this is a bad call?
 

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You're forgetting that refs are also incompetent, and just make bad calls. No amount of tinfoil hat theories changes that.

This is EXACTLY what objective people are saying. The Cowboys aren't special in getting bad or no calls against. You just watch all of their games and hate when it happens. Buffalo and Detroit fans do too.
 
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