If there's an obscure penalty that hasn't been called in 15 years

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The whole league has become a joke due to sorry refs. College refs would be a huge upgrade of these nimrods.
At some point they need to realize 60 year old refs can’t keep up with 22 of the worlds top athletes
 

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I think the penalty wasn’t the “point”, it was that DLaw shifted causing the TB player to move. So, it was the fault of the Dallas player that the Tampa player loved, Dallas penalty

Biggest crock of kaka I have ever seen. This game was amongst the worst officiated that I have ever witnessed
 

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in before marcus makes an appearance
He has to really research this one it could be a while.

Or maybe...maybe he’s going to admit this was bs and not comment.

No. He actually defended the hold vs Damien Wilson in the first Philly game. If he can defend(troll about) that he can defend any ref call.
 

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You know you're in other posters' heads when .... lol.
Here is what I posted in the other thread on this play.


Let's talk the DLaw play and since no one ever does this. Like ever. Let's look at the actual rule. It's clear Troy and Joe Buck had no idea what the rule was. I respect Pereira but think he missed a small detail that might have influenced the call. Notice the underlining (emphasis mine).

RULE 4, SECTION 6
ARTICLE 5. OTHER DELAY OF GAME FOULS. Other examples of action or inaction that are to be construed as delay of the game include, but are not limited to:

(d) a defensive player aligned in a stationary position within one yard of the line of scrimmage makes quick and abrupt actions that are not a part of normal defensive player movement and are an obvious attempt to cause an offensive player(s) to foul (false start). (The officials shall blow their whistles immediately.) If the defender is walking or running toward the line of scrimmage in an effort to time the snap, but stops abruptly because the snap is not made, it is not a foul for delay of game;

First the play real speed with the clocks. Lawrence is clearly not set for his rush (and appears to be watching the play clock) and then right around 1 to go and Winston getting under Center, does a jerky-type move to move inside causing the TE to move.

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Here is what I think Pereira missed. Notice how when Lawrence made his move with his head first looking right, he does a head fake left as he jerks over to the right. Who does that if they're simply changing gaps? I get "hopping" over to get your feet set but why the head fake, and right at 1 on the play clock? Could the officials have seen that as an obvious "quick and abrupt action?"

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Of course no one agrees because we're always the victim but I am giving an honest assessment at what officials might have been looking at. Videos are posted. The hate will ensue. But can people for once just debate the video instead of the usual diversion tactics?
 

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You know you're in other posters' heads when .... lol.
Here is what I posted in the other thread on this play.


Let's talk the DLaw play and since no one ever does this. Like ever. Let's look at the actual rule. It's clear Troy and Joe Buck had no idea what the rule was. I respect Pereira but think he missed a small detail that might have influenced the call. Notice the underlining (emphasis mine).

RULE 4, SECTION 6
ARTICLE 5. OTHER DELAY OF GAME FOULS. Other examples of action or inaction that are to be construed as delay of the game include, but are not limited to:

(d) a defensive player aligned in a stationary position within one yard of the line of scrimmage makes quick and abrupt actions that are not a part of normal defensive player movement and are an obvious attempt to cause an offensive player(s) to foul (false start). (The officials shall blow their whistles immediately.) If the defender is walking or running toward the line of scrimmage in an effort to time the snap, but stops abruptly because the snap is not made, it is not a foul for delay of game;

First the play real speed with the clocks. Lawrence is clearly not set for his rush (and appears to be watching the play clock) and then right around 1 to go and Winston getting under Center, does a jerky-type move to move inside causing the TE to move.

w-Clock-GIF.gif


Here is what I think Pereira missed. Notice how when Lawrence made his move with his head first looking right, he does a head fake left as he jerks over to the right. Who does that if they're simply changing gaps? I get "hopping" over to get your feet set but why the head fake, and right at 1 on the play clock? Could the officials have seen that as an obvious "quick and abrupt action?"

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Of course no one agrees because we're always the victim but I am giving an honest assessment at what officials might have been looking at. Videos are posted. The hate will ensue. But can people for once just debate the video instead of the usual diversion tactics?
:laugh:

You’re a better comedian than Blandino.
 

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They literally had a delay of game AND a false start before Lawrence "pointed", which was apparently the reason for the penalty.

Truly awful and does nothing to quell the cries that the league plays favorites with teams in games. I am not one to believe conspiracies, but LOL, stuff like that makes you think maybe people aren't that crazy.
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You know you're in other posters' heads when .... lol.
Here is what I posted in the other thread on this play.


Let's talk the DLaw play and since no one ever does this. Like ever. Let's look at the actual rule. It's clear Troy and Joe Buck had no idea what the rule was. I respect Pereira but think he missed a small detail that might have influenced the call. Notice the underlining (emphasis mine).

RULE 4, SECTION 6
ARTICLE 5. OTHER DELAY OF GAME FOULS. Other examples of action or inaction that are to be construed as delay of the game include, but are not limited to:

(d) a defensive player aligned in a stationary position within one yard of the line of scrimmage makes quick and abrupt actions that are not a part of normal defensive player movement and are an obvious attempt to cause an offensive player(s) to foul (false start). (The officials shall blow their whistles immediately.) If the defender is walking or running toward the line of scrimmage in an effort to time the snap, but stops abruptly because the snap is not made, it is not a foul for delay of game;

First the play real speed with the clocks. Lawrence is clearly not set for his rush (and appears to be watching the play clock) and then right around 1 to go and Winston getting under Center, does a jerky-type move to move inside causing the TE to move.

w-Clock-GIF.gif


Here is what I think Pereira missed. Notice how when Lawrence made his move with his head first looking right, he does a head fake left as he jerks over to the right. Who does that if they're simply changing gaps? I get "hopping" over to get your feet set but why the head fake, and right at 1 on the play clock? Could the officials have seen that as an obvious "quick and abrupt action?"

Back-View-GIF.gif


Of course no one agrees because we're always the victim but I am giving an honest assessment at what officials might have been looking at. Videos are posted. The hate will ensue. But can people for once just debate the video instead of the usual diversion tactics?
Playclock=0(zeeeeeeeerooooo)
 

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I think the only times I’ve seen it was kicking the ball after it was set or holding up a player as you said
I’ve never seen it for shifting and pointing
I thought it was a delay on offense when they threw flag

The strange thing is Tank seemingly called for raising his arm and pointing at the RT. But he was simply trying to point out to the line judge the RT flinched and should've been called for false start. I have no idea how the LJ can be looking down the line and fail to see that.
 

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No. Two are watching their team play and @CalPolyTechnique knows better than to try on this one.
He's too annoyed about clinching the division to log in and comment

But yeah, we seem to get the most obscure penalties called..I had no idea the defense could get a delay of game penalty, unless a player threw the ball down the field after a play. And try and count the number of penalties created by cowboy players
 

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I've watched football for over 25 years, I've coached it the last 4 years, and I've NEVER heard of defensive delay of game where the defender wasn't trying to prevent the offensive player from sys ding up to get back to the huddle in a. 2 min situation
I caught ten minutes of the game and happened to be that call. Never heard it in my life. My mom called me and said the same thing. And she used to watch the Raiders live at Frank Youell field.
 
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