Zeke watch - The rushing title is in the bag

[blueblood70]

Gurly getting hurt is a poor way to win it, but so be it.

he was leading before that and most likely after that..zeke being suspended without true cause gave RBs last year a free pass..Zeke still was tops in YPG last season..realistically Zeke could have had the crown 3 straight years , when the last times that happened? Emmitt had 4 total in very long career, zeke gets it 2 out of 3 years and could have likely had 3..thats pretty good considering ES played with 11 HOF players and many better coaches..think about that guys,

hes in the ES, Jim brown, Dickerson, and other HOF back territory..he got robbed by RG..

 

[Nova]

You clearly don’t know what your reading. Romo isn’t a young athlete, but it is not uncommon for athletes and it’s definitely not uncommon for how it happened.



It’s the flexion or forward bending when Avril at close to 300 points hit him while he was in the sitting position . Getting fractured like that would happen to anybody. It wasn’t Avril just falling on Romo while he was down, meaning it wasn’t the result of the hit, it was the ‘load bearing issue’. Guys get hernias for bad bending just by picking something heavy up.

And none of what you said deals with recovery and whether or not it prevents people from playing again.



https://sinicropispine.com/cowboys-lose-romo-l1-spinal-compression-fracture/

Right! Romo wasn't and isn't a young athlete.

I'm not saying Romo was going to have the exact same injury again. I'm saying it's evident that Romo was breaking/broken down.

2013: Ruptured Disk
2014: Fractured Transverse Process
2015: Broken collarbone -- then re-break.
2016: Compression Fracture of L1 vertebra.

These aren't freak accidents, but rather an indication of the state Romo's body was in.

By age 36 Romo was fragile and it is extremely likely that Dak would have had to come back off the bench again.

And for what? The offense wasn't broken. In fact it was 3rd in DVOA that year and actually ranks right about where the LA Rams offense does this year.

It just isn't reality to think this was some lost opportunity for Romo, the Cowboys, or us fans.

 

[khiladi]

Right! Romo wasn't and isn't a young athlete.

I'm not saying Romo was going to have the exact same injury again. I'm saying it's evident that Romo was breaking/broken down.

2013: Ruptured Disk
2014: Fractured Transverse Process
2015: Broken collarbone -- then re-break.
2016: Compression Fracture of L1 vertebra.

These aren't freak accidents, but rather an indication of the state Romo's body was in.

By age 36 Romo was fragile and it is extremely likely that Dak would have had to come back off the bench again.

And for what? The offense wasn't broken. In fact it was 3rd in DVOA that year and actually ranks right about where the LA Rams offense does this year.

It just isn't reality to think this was some lost opportunity for Romo, the Cowboys, or us fans.

By that standard Rodgers is fragile with his collarbone, meaning his throwing will always suck.

again, dumb argument.. Dallas made the decision not because of health, but because they supposedly didn’t want to upset the rhythm.

Only idiots do that, especially when the bar of QB play was that far apart. It’s even more telling by their actions, the idiocy of it when Dallas rested Zeke but didn’t rest Dak. Plus Dak was garbage against legit defenses in the Giants and Vikings. And Romo was way better than Dak in practice and the Eagles game. The offense looked way better. This staff, per Woodson, even admit now Romo was better as a passer and this idea they preferred Dak over him is because of the “IT” factor, meaning they are making excuses. They have nothing to do by and they clearly have and had a game manager in Dak.

Romo had a chance with all-pro line play and Zeke for a five game span to win a SB in a tight window which they admitted already existed.

The only reason they did it was because it was a power play by Garrett and lackeys.

 

[JBond]

Again, no mention that he leads the league in fumbles, averages less ypc than Gurley or Barkley, averages ~5 more carries per game than Barkley which means Barkley would be beating Zeke by over 100 yards if he got as many carries and he also runs behind a much worse O line.

But yeah, Zeke has more yards so that means he’s the best...unless he didn’t have the most yards, ran behind an O line as bad as the Giants and didnt have as many carries then he would still be the best but it would be the O lines fault and the coaches fault for not giving him the ball enough

Actually, Dak leads the league in fumbles.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/fumbles

All I want for Christmas is a real NFL quality QB.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

You get so butt hurt everyone doesn’t drool over Ewok like you do.

Your avatar tagline is out of date.

We're in the playoffs.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Our OL pretty much blows. Zeke is not running behind a good line. Zeke has a journeyman QB and an OC, yet Zeke keeps on dominating. Go figure.

Our offensive line is actually very good at run blocking.

8th in the league in adjusted offensive line yards. And 9th in 2nd level yards.

 

[blumayne38]

Check this out. Zeke made Todd Gurley quit. He got tired of chasing him so he no showed the game today.

I'm not surprised. He never had the cranium to get this done.

All hail Ezekiel Elijah Elliott. The Rushing King.

Zeke 1,434
(I'm a wittle) Gurley 1,251
Barkley 1,198

Understand this, if the NFL Commissioner was a man, Zeke would have started his career with three rushing titles his first three years in the league. His numbers with those games missed and the removal of the distraction of the suspension last year would put him at or near the most productive RB in the history of the NFL 3 years into his career.

Sure, he's had a good to great line those three years but he's also played with a God awful QB and no passing game. You play Dallas, you sell out to stop Zeke. He carries the load every week starting week 1 of his rookie year. There is no burden lifted off of him ever.

Special player. He's easily one of the greatest players to ever wear that uniform.

Easy

 

[Falco78]

By that standard Rodgers is fragile with his collarbone, meaning his throwing will always suck.

again, dumb argument.. Dallas made the decision not because of health, but because they supposedly didn’t want to upset the rhythm.

Only idiots do that, especially when the bar of QB play was that far apart. It’s even more telling by their actions, the idiocy of it when Dallas rested Zeke but didn’t rest Dak. Plus Dak was garbage against legit defenses in the Giants and Vikings. And Romo was way better than Dak in practice and the Eagles game. The offense looked way better. This staff, per Woodson, even admit now Romo was better as a passer and this idea they preferred Dak over him is because of the “IT” factor, meaning they are making excuses. They have nothing to do by and they clearly have and had a game manager in Dak.

Romo had a chance with all-pro line play and Zeke for a five game span to win a SB in a tight window which they admitted already existed.

The only reason they did it was because it was a power play by Garrett and lackeys.

Where did these lies come from? None of this seems even remotely true...

 

[khiladi]

Where did these lies come from? None of this seems even remotely true...

There are no lies..

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Barkley doesn’t run against as many stacked boxes. He’s also had six games where he hasn’t broken 50 yards rushing. And Eli is still better than Dak..

Barkley runs against 8 men in the box 22.54% of the time, while Zeke is 24.67%, so a completely negligible difference. Barkley does run behind a way worse run blocking Oline though, I'll give you that.

Barkley has three games all season without 100 total yards. Zeke has four games without 100 total yards.

And Eli is not still better than Dak lmao.

 

[Nova]

By that standard Rodgers is fragile with his collarbone, meaning his throwing will always suck.

again, dumb argument.. Dallas made the decision not because of health, but because they supposedly didn’t want to upset the rhythm.

Only idiots do that, especially when the bar of QB play was that far apart. It’s even more telling by their actions, the idiocy of it when Dallas rested Zeke but didn’t rest Dak. Plus Dak was garbage against legit defenses in the Giants and Vikings. And Romo was way better than Dak in practice and the Eagles game. The offense looked way better. This staff, per Woodson, even admit now Romo was better as a passer and this idea they preferred Dak over him is because of the “IT” factor, meaning they are making excuses. They have nothing to do by and they clearly have and had a game manager in Dak.

Romo had a chance with all-pro line play and Zeke for a five game span to win a SB in a tight window which they admitted already existed.

The only reason they did it was because it was a power play by Garrett and lackeys.

I get it, sometimes designating a player as 'fragile' is a lazy analysis. I agree that was the case early in Romo's career.

At some point you have to realize that a string of "freak accidents" is really just a trend.

Romo was absolutely fragile at age 36.

And of course Romo was better than a Rookie in practice. Of course Romo was a better passer. I don't think anyone would say anything different. Sure, the offense looked nice in the drive @ Philly.

I honestly don't care what the coaches decision was based on for the purpose of this discussion. If you wanna bag on the coaches, I'm not going to stop you.

But if you really think that an old, broken down Romo would not only stay healthy, but elevate the team enough to overcome our defensive deficiencies in the playoffs then I'm just going to let you live in that fantasy.

 

[khiladi]

Barkley runs against 8 men in the box 22.54% of the time, while Zeke is 24.67%, so a completely negligible difference. Barkley does run behind a way worse run blocking Oline though, I'll give you that.

Barkley has three games all season without 100 total yards. Zeke has four games without 100 total yards.

And Eli is not still better than Dak lmao.

First of all, Zeke had been the top rusher against stacked boxes going back to his rookie season.

https://thelandryhat.com/2017/01/28/ezekiel-elliott-big-plays-stacked-fronts/

Secondly, even if that is true with Barkley now, Zeke still leads the league in yardage against stacked boxes, outside Connor who never faced them as much, unless something significantly changed half the season, which I hardly doubt considering Zeke has gotten even better the more the season has gone.

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburg...-distinguish-selves-vs-stacked-box-123678045/

Third, you talk about 100 yard game and I’m taking about less than 50 yard games, where Barkley has over six and I think Zeke only did twice. Not rushing for 100 yards and that too a one game difference is not meaningful.

And yes, Eli is still better than Dak which is why he faces way more zone that Dak.

 

[Aviano90]

Your avatar tagline is out of date.

We're in the playoffs.

Well let me today that just for you.

 

[khiladi]

I get it, sometimes designating a player as 'fragile' is a lazy analysis. I agree that was the case early in Romo's career.

At some point you have to realize that a string of "freak accidents" is really just a trend.

Romo was absolutely fragile at age 36.

And of course Romo was better than a Rookie in practice. Of course Romo was a better passer. I don't think anyone would say anything different. Sure, the offense looked nice in the drive @ Philly.

I honestly don't care what the coaches decision was based on for the purpose of this discussion. If you wanna bag on the coaches, I'm not going to stop you.

But if you really think that an old, broken down Romo would not only stay healthy, but elevate the team enough to overcome our defensive deficiencies in the playoffs then I'm just going to let you live in that fantasy.

So you think Dak could when he can’t put points on the board and overcome defensive deficiencies in he playoffs?

 

[Falco78]

There are no lies..

These say not correct

By that standard Rodgers is fragile with his collarbone, meaning his throwing will always suck.

again, dumb argument.. Dallas made the decision not because of health, but because they supposedly didn’t want to upset the rhythm.

Only idiots do that, especially when the bar of QB play was that far apart. It’s even more telling by their actions, the idiocy of it when Dallas rested Zeke but didn’t rest Dak. Plus Dak was garbage against legit defenses in the Giants and Vikings. And Romo was way better than Dak in practice and the Eagles game. The offense looked way better. This staff, per Woodson, even admit now Romo was better as a passer and this idea they preferred Dak over him is because of the “IT” factor, meaning they are making excuses. They have nothing to do by and they clearly have and had a game manager in Dak.

Romo had a chance with all-pro line play and Zeke for a five game span to win a SB in a tight window which they admitted already existed.

The only reason they did it was because it was a power play by Garrett and lackeys.

 

[khiladi]

These say not correct

By that standard Rodgers is fragile with his collarbone, meaning his throwing will always suck.

again, dumb argument.. Dallas made the decision not because of health, but because they supposedly didn’t want to upset the rhythm.

Only idiots do that, especially when the bar of QB play was that far apart. It’s even more telling by their actions, the idiocy of it when Dallas rested Zeke but didn’t rest Dak. Plus Dak was garbage against legit defenses in the Giants and Vikings. And Romo was way better than Dak in practice and the Eagles game. The offense looked way better. This staff, per Woodson, even admit now Romo was better as a passer and this idea they preferred Dak over him is because of the “IT” factor, meaning they are making excuses. They have nothing to do by and they clearly have and had a game manager in Dak.

Romo had a chance with all-pro line play and Zeke for a five game span to win a SB in a tight window which they admitted already existed.

The only reason they did it was because it was a power play by Garrett and lackeys.

No lies...

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

First of all, Zeke had been the top rusher against stacked boxes going back to his rookie season.

https://thelandryhat.com/2017/01/28/ezekiel-elliott-big-plays-stacked-fronts/

Secondly, even if that is true with Barkley now, Zeke still leads the league in yardage against stacked boxes, outside Connor who never faced them as much, unless something significantly changed half the season, which I hardly doubt considering Zeke has gotten even better the more the season has gone.

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburg...-distinguish-selves-vs-stacked-box-123678045/

Third, you talk about 100 yard game and I’m taking about less than 50 yard games, where Barkley has over six and I think Zeke only did twice. Not rushing for 100 yards and that too a one game difference is not meaningful.

And yes, Eli is still better than Dak which is why he faces way more zone that Dak.

We arent talking about the last three years lmao, we are talking about this year. Zeke had one of the best Olines ever assembled so his yards against stacked boxes should be higher than most.

Zeke has lower yards per carry against stacked boxes than Barkley.

When talking about how a RB has performed using strictly rushing yards is very very very dumb look.

And no Eli is not better.

 

[khiladi]

We arent talking about the last three years lmao, we are talking about this year. Zeke had one of the best Olines ever assembled so his yards against stacked boxes should be higher than most.

Zeke has lower yards per carry against stacked boxes than Barkley.

When talking about how a RB has performed using strictly rushing yards is very very very dumb look.

And no Eli is not better.

No he doesn’t like I said, unless it’s changed halfway through the season (Zeke was leading by a large mile from that article I quoted outside of Connor who doesn’t face it anywhere hear as much) which I hardly doubt, because Zeke has gotten even better since than. At midway outside of these two back, nobody was averaged above 3.5 YPC against stacked boxes.

And again, Barkley hasn’t even broken 50 yards at least six times this year. He just rushed for 2 YPC against the Colts whole Zeke has like 80 yards by the first half. He just had 2.2 the game before. It’s pretty much skewed because he’s had more big hitters over the season.

And yes Eli is, even in the tail end of his career. If we go by statistics Dak homers like to run on about, such as passed rated, Manning is at 92 and that’s 2 less than Dak. Defenses aren’t anywhere giving a washed up Eli the same looks they give Dak. Eli still rarely doesn’t throw for less than 200 yards, while Dak’s a regular at that.

 

[tunahelper]

Pretty unspectacular 1,400 yards. Honestly, I can’t really think of many games this season where he wowed me.

How about his determination for every yard? That doesn't wow you? It reminds me of Walter Payton & how he fought for every inch. Unless you are kidding I am scratching my head as to what you are watching.

 

[Nova]

So you think Dak could when he can’t put points on the board and overcome defensive deficiencies in he playoffs?

No I'm not saying that Dak could overcome the defensive deficiencies because that quite evidently didn't happen.

I'm saying neither QB could elevate that defense through the gauntlet of the playoffs because it wasn't a super bowl caliber defense.

And ultimately, I'm saying that ruing the missed opportunity of starting Romo is pure fantasy because A.) it's incredibly likely Romo would have gotten hurt again and B.) his effort wouldn't have saved the day anyway.

That's just the reality of the situation. We all wanted the fairy tale ending. But it's just that... a fairy tale.