Are we overrating Richard?

[texbumthelife]

Yes. We let his youth and fire cloud us. He's not a bad coach, but he's got a long ways to go to be a great coach.

I really hope we hang on to him and I hope he gets a chance to call the D on his own, but I don't trust this **** show FO a single bit. I wouldn't be shocked if it's literally the exact same as last season with Richards getting the DC title and more money instead of Marinelli.

This is the same front office that thought a rookie QB coach was the right person to help a guy going into his third year after struggling in his sophomore season.

Dumb starts at the root with this team.

 

[nightrain]

Height.

Yea, Richard does like length in his CBs. There has to be more to it than that.

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Maybe...I think we are perpetually overrating the talent we have as well. To me this D has 2 starting LB’s, a starting DE, and a couple #2 CB’s....everyone else is extremely replaceable/should be upgraded.

Byron Jones made 2nd team all pro?

 

[nightrain]

Height.

maybe developing the chip on the shoulder.


https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/...er-cbs-but-lewis-exception-to-the-rule-459076

 

[Rockport]

And what about the stats he posted, is that negative or is that simple asking a question with some evidence?

Richard could be good as the DC but we've got some that wanted him promoted to HC and he interviewed for 3 teams with no offers. Don't you think some are getting carried away with this guy when he's not proven anything yet?

Someone needs to step up and answer questions about that disastrous run D in LA because that was one of the worst D performances I have ever seen and I've been watching this team for many years. It started off bad and never got better. No one on the Cowboys staff had an answer to that run game. The Cowboys D got punched all night and his best answer was to yell at the LB's? Hell, I think they were aware they were getting gutted.

The off season won't be ruled by negative Nancy's as long as there are positive Pollyanna's to fight the good fight but after a horrible defensive display like that, how would you expect most posters to react?

As Bill Parcells said, “Stats are for losers”.

 

[Blackspider214]

Typical fans. One subpar stretch and now everyone is overrated!!

Trying to be as edgy as possible.

 

[TheCount]

Fire Linehan.

 

[nate dizzle]

***2017 PPG: 20.35
2018 PPG: 21.4

2017 Interceptions: 10
2018 Interceptions: 9

2017 sacks: 38
2019 sacks: 39

****In the 2017 number I subtracted 28 points that were the result of a pick 6.

Something to discuss...are we letting a young, firey coach blind us to the fact that this defense statistically isn’t much different? That playoff performance was as bad as I have seen in the Marinelli era...maybe the worse. Richard calls the plays.

Remember...he was fired from a staff that many of us envy and the Seahawks defense is no worse for it.

A couple weeks ago when everyone was worried about him leaving I asked probably a half dozen times in different threads, what exactly were the changes that he's made since coming aboard that makes him so valuable. The only notable thing about him is that he yells and jumps around, and gets in players faces. That's really it. Oh yeah, he moved Jones to CB, although whether that was him or Marinelli is questionable.

Anyways, I never got an answer and would love one now. What are the big changes that he has made that he is directly responsible for?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's a bad coach, I'd just like to know why everyone is falling all over themselves over him.

 

[robjay04]

I think what Richards did with the secondary was great. He made the most of the talent he was given.

We had a top 5 defense this year people. The defense is what carried us all year.

7th in PPG
7th in YPG
12th in yards per play
18th in turnovers forced
13th in passing yards allowed
9th in passing touchdowns allowed
5th in rushing yards allowed
26th in sacks

You can argue top 10. Not top 5.

Can’t rush the QB, can’t create turnovers..you’re not top 5.

 

[Idgit]

Yep. Good coach, though.

 

[Aven8]

We play man and our corners are not ballhawks previously so I don’t know why anyone expects more TO’s from a coach.

 

[Clove]

Once Richard is given reigns as D-Coordinator, puts in his own players, maybe actually employs big fat DTs and hires his own coaches, then we can properly rate Richard.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

***2017 PPG: 20.35
2018 PPG: 21.4

2017 Interceptions: 10
2018 Interceptions: 9

2017 sacks: 38
2019 sacks: 39

****In the 2017 number I subtracted 28 points that were the result of a pick 6.

Something to discuss...are we letting a young, firey coach blind us to the fact that this defense statistically isn’t much different? That playoff performance was as bad as I have seen in the Marinelli era...maybe the worse. Richard calls the plays.

Remember...he was fired from a staff that many of us envy and the Seahawks defense is no worse for it.

Dallas was 25th in the league in defensive DVOA last year.
We finished this year 9th.

So, to answer your question whether we are overrating Richards...in short...No.

 

[MWH1967]

no

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I think if anything, statistically speaking, the defense was even more impressive last season.

Please stop throwing in words like "statistically speaking" when you couldn't be further from the truth. It is literally the exact opposite.

 

[DasSchnitzel]

If you're one of the people giving Richards credit for the year and then blaming Marinelli for the playoff loss, then you are most definitely overrating Richards.

 

[LucaBrasi]

Of course. Remember Pete Carroll didn’t want him back, and hired Ken Norton to replace him, who was fired by the raiders one year mid season.


I like Richard, we need to see more before anointing him.

 

[Rayman70]

no

 

[robjay04]

Please stop throwing in words like "statistically speaking" when you couldn't be further from the truth. It is literally the exact opposite.

Well if it’s the exact opposite. Please share a counter point.

PPG, turnovers and sacks are literally the 3 most important statistics and 2017 and 2018 are not “the exact opposite.” I said “statistically speaking” and the numbers don’t lie.

Not sure how you can even type such a definite statement without facts.

 

[eromeopolk]

***2017 PPG: 20.35
2018 PPG: 21.4

2017 Interceptions: 10
2018 Interceptions: 9

2017 sacks: 38
2019 sacks: 39

****In the 2017 number I subtracted 28 points that were the result of a pick 6.

Something to discuss...are we letting a young, firey coach blind us to the fact that this defense statistically isn’t much different? That playoff performance was as bad as I have seen in the Marinelli era...maybe the worse. Richard calls the plays.

Remember...he was fired from a staff that many of us envy and the Seahawks defense is no worse for it.

No he is not overrated. Carroll chose him over Norton. However, the Seahawks lost a lot of veterans on defense under Richard in 2017 and Norton had to get a Coordinator roll after being fired in Oaktown. For Richard to grow in a coordinator roll, for Norton to still remain a coordinator, and both remain viable HC prospect, it was best for Richard to move on.

This staff should immediately add Dennis Thurman as passing game coordinator and DB coach, promote Richard to DC, and put Marinelli as run game coordinator and DL coach. Dennis Thurman has ties to both Marinelli and Richard. It will allow Richard to see the big picture and allow Thurman and Marinelli to focus on getting turnovers and playmaking out of the defense.