Jason Garrett - Where's the love?

[cowboy_ron]

All JG is going to do is waste the careers of the next generation of Cowboy players.

I wish I could give more than 1 like.

 

[Setackin]

Wrong forum bro. This is the Cowboys forum, not the Browns......……..we dont measure success here by regular season wins, we use playoffs as the measuring stick.

Whats your boy's winning percentage in the playoffs compared to Belichick, Knoll, Landry, Cowher, Carroll, ect…..

After a decade, were these coaches still trying to get past the divisional round?

This.

This is Dallas not the Jets or the Browns. We aren’t satisfied with just winning records. Contending for Super Bowls is all that matters.

 

[Tabascocat]

Without Garrett influencing Jethro and Son with the better culture this era, I’m not sure where my hope would come from with our dysfunctional organization?

We’d probably resemble more of the Browns or the Campo era. Even with one of the greatest coordinators in Wade and a HOFamer in Bill no ones had the success, continuity and influence Jason has.

Garrett is the best decision Jerry has made to coexist with his selfish foolishness since at least Bill and most likely Jimmy. And probably the best we can hope for.

I’m still amazed he wanted to stay here instead of bolting to Atl or Balt. And why I’ve always felt he and Jethro have some kind of understanding that someday Jason will become VP or GM. Why else would he have named Jason” the future of the Dallas Cowboys”.

Nothing else makes sense why he’d stay here coaching in the most dysfunctional situation in the NFL where no one expects anyone to have much success with this ownership.

Thanks you Coach G for giving this borderline hopeless fan something to hold my head up with.

It's all fine and dandy that Garrett can work with this front office, that is a big plus for that job. But, he doesn't have the know how to win a few playoff games in a row. You know what just might be better? A new HC who knows how to break down film and find other teams weaknesses and exploit them.

We need a guy who can scheme wins, not hope and pray that everything falls into place for any given game. Garrett offers nothing on gameday once the ball is kicked off, it seems the coaching stops there.........

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

Excellent post. Also, Garrett’s a great motivator, has a good eye for talent (the whole rkg thing isn’t his and it obviously drives our scouts), and most importantly, players get better when they play here. Even players that other teams thought were scrubs come here and play better. See sua filo and woods this year. That’s the most important characteristic in an nfl designed for parity. And it’s why he has only ever had one losing season, and has been to the divisional round three of the past fivre years. How many coaches outside of Belichick have done that? Not many. He also has the second most wins over the last three years and five years. He was coach of the year in 2016 and led a 13-3 record with a rookie fourth round qb that everyone on here also says sucks.

When you look, at objective measures, Garrett is a very good coach. But there are a lot of morons in the world and they apparently all visit this board regularly. They have no sense of perspective or no idea how good other coaches truly are. They just hate Garrett and always will. Don’t listen to them. Thank god that Jerry is smarter than them finally too

Teams all around the league find diamonds in the rough lol, don't give him credit for players like Sua Filo and Woods, Will McClay and the scouts found those guys.. They didn't get better because of Garrett lol, and he should be a motivationa speaker or general manager if that's your thing! He's an NFL HEAD COACH... What does Garrett actually do on the sidelines now, aside from clapping??? We don't see him coaching up any of his players whatsoever! He's just a robot, that will clap about 80 times throughout the game.. He had a very good quarterback in Tony Romo and couldn't help get him over that hump, he's never gonna do it with Dak Prescott

 

[sean10mm]

If the game was just about personnel and matchups the Patriots would have won 1 title instead of 5... and it would have been after the 2007 season, when they lost in spite of having an all-time great roster on paper. Coaching matters, and Garrett is brutally mediocre in almost every facet of it. He's just good enough with people to not have the team give up, but that's literally all he has going for him.

Getting people to show up and try hard is not enough. Ask the Chargers how that worked out for them. They clearly had a better roster and the theoretical matchup advantages and got vivisected in barely more time than it took me to type this.

 

[Diehardblues]

This.

This is Dallas not the Jets or the Browns. We aren’t satisfied with just winning records. Contending for Super Bowls is all that matters.

That might be who we were and who you want us to be but we haven’t been that franchise for a generation now.

A Super Bowl or bust mentality is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard of. Lol

That means even in our glory years you were only happy in 5 of those seasons. What kind of fans are you people? Lol

 

[birdwells1]

I can't tell, by this picture, who won or loss the game.

 

[Sydla]

This game is, and always will be about personnel. In the playoffs, it’s personnel and matchups, because the talent level evens out when you get to the top 12.

I’m all for getting an all-time great anything, so if a guy like Belichick becomes available, by all means, nab him. But, failing that, the smart thing is to work on the talent.

Which we’ve done a much better job of under Garrett. No, he didn’t stumble into a Dick Lebeau defense. We’ve had to build from the ground up. Turns out this organization is pretty dang good-but not great-at assembling talent. Which explains the pretty dang good-but-not-great results we get.

Fans don’t want to hear it. Fans want to change the HC and change the QB. Fans are mostly pretty stupid. But just because a mob is going somewhere doesn’t mean you need to grab your pitchfork.

By any measure a big factor in the game Saturday night was coaching. It’s been reported that McVay used a variety of formations and motion to get our LBs out of position. They also devised blocking schemes based on them being able to read what our DL was “telling”.

Anyone who just thinks it’s just about personnel is a total fool. Funny how you could call fans stupid when you are trying to argue that coaching really wasn’t a factor Saturday night.

 

[sean10mm]

That might be who we were and who you want us to be but we haven’t been that franchise for a generation now.

A Super Bowl or bust mentality is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard of. Lol

That means even in our glory years you were only happy in 5 of those seasons. What kind of fans are you people? Lol

The real problem isn't fan expectations, it's that there is no evidence the Cowboys will ever matter in the slightest as long as Garrett is in charge. We've had 9 years of training wheels garbage coaching for children.

 

[Diehardblues]

It's all fine and dandy that Garrett can work with this front office, that is a big plus for that job. But, he doesn't have the know how to win a few playoff games in a row. You know what just might be better? A new HC who knows how to break down film and find other teams weaknesses and exploit them.

We need a guy who can scheme wins, not hope and pray that everything falls into place for any given game. Garrett offers nothing on gameday once the ball is kicked off, it seems the coaching stops there.........

And who exactly is that guy you think Jerry is going to attract ? And you’re assuming he’d come here.

And if he is a better Game Day coach like some of the others we’ve had in Gailey, Wade and Bill what if he doesn’t have the influence over Jethro and Son in building the team and culture around it?

I’m not endorsing Garrett is the greatest HC . Just probably the best situation over time we can hope for within the parameters The Football Idiot will allow.

 

[birdwells1]

On the left: a man making millions to play around in the NFL.

On the right: a man on a mission.



Seriously, your team got smoked (ground game)... you had NO answer for it... and you can smile that big?
Sad.

Would Jimmy, Belicheck, Saban, Landry, or any other great coach you can name, have a smile this big after a playoff loss? I think everyone knows the answer.

 

[jwooten15]

He wins when he has more talent, he loses when he has less talent, but the kicker for me is he loses when he has equal talent.
On his defense he has to deal with Jerry pulling the strings, a truly great head coach wouldn't put up with that and he does. In short, he sucks!

Great point about losing with equal talent. You're right, that really is everything you need to know.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

get.

Fans don’t want to hear it. Fans want to change the HC and change the QB. Fans are mostly pretty stupid. But just because a mob is going somewhere doesn’t mean you need to grab your pitchfork.

Yeah, we want to change the dang HC! He's been here 8 years, and we haven't gotten close to winning squat!!!! What do you think????!!!!!

 

[ufcrules1]

Excellent post. Also, Garrett’s a great motivator, has a good eye for talent (the whole rkg thing isn’t his and it obviously drives our scouts), and most importantly, players get better when they play here. Even players that other teams thought were scrubs come here and play better. See sua filo and woods this year. That’s the most important characteristic in an nfl designed for parity. And it’s why he has only ever had one losing season, and has been to the divisional round three of the past fivre years. How many coaches outside of Belichick have done that? Not many. He also has the second most wins over the last three years and five years. He was coach of the year in 2016 and led a 13-3 record with a rookie fourth round qb that everyone on here also says sucks.

When you look, at objective measures, Garrett is a very good coach. But there are a lot of morons in the world and they apparently all visit this board regularly. They have no sense of perspective or no idea how good other coaches truly are. They just hate Garrett and always will. Don’t listen to them. Thank god that Jerry is smarter than them finally too

Yeah we are all morons here and it is just you a few others who know JG is a great coach. Please....

 

[Tabascocat]

And who exactly is that guy you think Jerry is going to attract ? And you’re assuming he’d come here.

And if he is a better Game Day coach like some of the others we’ve had in Gailey, Wade and Bill what if he doesn’t have the influence over Jethro and Son in building the team and culture around it?

I’m not endorsing Garrett is the greatest HC . Just probably the best situation over time we can hope for within the parameters Jerry will allow.

There are plenty of up and coming young College coaches that would love a chance in the NFL and I bet every one of them will work for Jerry. The game is changing to a more NCAA type and you have to adjust to that style. We need some coaches who know that game well, not a HC stuck in the past.

 

[Idgit]

By any measure a big factor in the game Saturday night was coaching. It’s been reported that McVay used a variety of formations and motion to get our LBs out of position. They also devised blocking schemes based on them being able to read what our DL was “telling”.

Anyone who just thinks it’s just about personnel is a total fool. Funny how you could call fans stupid when you are trying to argue that coaching really wasn’t a factor Saturday night.

I actually saw the game, though. The Rams offense beat us by opening holes we couldn’t fill and staying in advantageous passing situations and then executing those. They have abetted team.

Coaching really wasn’t a significant factor. I know you don’t like that and want it to not be true, but that doesn’t change anything. McVay is a really good coach. Definitely good enough to win it all. Hesnit doing it without the right matchups and without the personnel.

 

[Idgit]

Yeah, we want to change the dang HC! He's been here 8 years, and we haven't gotten close to winning squat!!!! What do you think????!!!!!

I think it’s been 23 years and that we ought to focus on how we can get even better at adding quality players because drafting great has not been enough.

 

[birdwells1]

This game is, and always will be about personnel. In the playoffs, it’s personnel and matchups, because the talent level evens out when you get to the top 12.

I’m all for getting an all-time great anything, so if a guy like Belichick becomes available, by all means, nab him. But, failing that, the smart thing is to work on the talent.

Which we’ve done a much better job of under Garrett. No, he didn’t stumble into a Dick Lebeau defense. We’ve had to build from the ground up. Turns out this organization is pretty dang good-but not great-at assembling talent. Which explains the pretty dang good-but-not-great results we get.

Fans don’t want to hear it. Fans want to change the HC and change the QB. Fans are mostly pretty stupid. But just because a mob is going somewhere doesn’t mean you need to grab your pitchfork.

Players have a salary cap so I don't care who's available you'll have to rob Peter to pay Paul somewhere, if you look at the rosters across the NFL the talent is pretty much spread out evenly. You know what doesn't have a salary cap? The coaching staff and front office, to me this is where you make your separation. If McVay was the coach of the Cowboys we would be where the Rams are right now because we have the talent to be, we just lose the sideline battle almost every Sunday. We get minimal Xs and Os advantage from having JG as our hc, this is why people point to us getting better personnel wise but what do you want a Pro Bowl lineup? That's just not going to happen.

 

[Diehardblues]

The real problem isn't fan expectations, it's that there is no evidence the Cowboys will ever matter in the slightest as long as Garrett is in charge. We've had 9 years of training wheels garbage coaching for children.

I think Jerry has redefined what matters the most this era. Continuity . Instead of the peaks and valleys we’ve had since Jimmy left.

Jethro and the Jone$ can promote and sell the heck out of 9-7 and divisional contenders while his pursuit of proving he can build a championship team without a HC like Jimmy. Garrett is perfect .

What the Football Idiot can’t sell and promote is 1-7 or consecutive 5-11’s which Garrett has prevented and is probably his best virtue in overcoming the distractions Jerry’s mgmt style presents.. avoiding total collapse.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

By any measure a big factor in the game Saturday night was coaching. It’s been reported that McVay used a variety of formations and motion to get our LBs out of position. They also devised blocking schemes based on them being able to read what our DL was “telling”.

Anyone who just thinks it’s just about personnel is a total fool. Funny how you could call fans stupid when you are trying to argue that coaching really wasn’t a factor Saturday night.

Exactly, from the sound of it, McVay and his staff did extra due diligence and found little tendencies that the Cowboys team does to get an extra edge.. Jason Garrett wouldn't even think of crap like that with his one track mind of lining up and beating the guy in front of you style! If people don't see that we're outcoached, and love just getting to the divisional round every couple years, then they're the stupid ones.