Did Garrett answer the 4th-and-1 play question after the game?

silvrNblue

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Learn something about your team, Dak himself said he gets two plays, and it's his job to read the defense and adjust accordingly,

Also learn a little about football, the OC makes a call, he has no idea what adjustment the defense will ultimately make, you learn that day one as an OC. It's what I learned in countless seminars and clinics from various coaches, college and pro. So while I don't know what the play was, I know the qb can kill any play. Especially when they tell you they have that ability.[/QUOTE
And YOU need to learn to support your off the cusp comments with FACTS. You claim your the be all on this, ok so answer me this one Dre, WHAT was the audible off this formation??? And another fact here, NOT every play called has an audible, that is well known coach Dre. If the OC had more then a 5 play, playbook, we wouldn't have been attempting a run at this point seeing as our great best in the league O-line was being blown off the ball all day, and YPC was garbage to say the least, mostly due to the 1st point. Nope, not you or anyone else will get me to put the elephant on Dak's back after what we have seen ALL season as mediocre, piss poor and just garbage play calling from vanillahan.
 

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Honestly, I don't have a problem with the call. Can't tell you how many times I have heard that "SL gets too cute in the redzone...he should just run power even if there are 11 guys in the box and let Dallas talented OL and RB take it from there."

And I mean it's a yard. The "best running game" in the NFL has got to be able to pick up a yard in critical situations.

Which is funny because I cannot count how many times Seattle's "best running game" or Carolina's "best running game" failed to pick up a yard. But if you call yourself the best running game in the league...and your RB is paid as such...and your OL is paid as such...and you get every accolade as such...

You gotta pick up that yard.
Zek getting stuffed on that play was not a surprise. We got stuffed on that play or a very similar play throughout the year. The Texans. The Colts. There were other times too!

Why would we run right at the best 2 players on their defense? More importantly why wouldn’t we run the QB sneak when it is wide open? Watch the replay it is wide open!!!
 

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(blue arrow direction) Where Zeke ran. Straight into the pile. Even then, it was open up high where he easily could have pulled a Walter Payton or Emmitt Smith and leaped over the pile to get that 1 yard for an easy 1st down. Problem is he can't do it.

(red arrow direction) Where Zeke should have run. There was a small lane open to the right of Ndamukong Suh for Zeke to run through for an easy 1 yard 1st down. Instead, he grabbed the handoff and went with his head down straight into the pile for a loss.

Absolutely bad effort from Zeke.

Zeke is great, but he's no Walter or Emmitt.

"Feed me! Feed me!" Nope.

If I were Zeke I would think Conor is going to at least seal or move Suh towards Zeke's left so even though left may look open right now I wouldn't necessarily expect it to stay open.
 

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We converted 3 out 4 of the 4th down tries.
Complaining about the one we didnt get lacks some perspective..imo
But yes, we shouldve checked out of that particular run

Btw, if we had converted morethan one 3rd down the entire game, maybe semi-desperate measures (going for it on 4th) may not have happened as often.
 

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4th and 1, 15 minutes to go single coverage with Cooper on the right, even with Talib.

Romo calling an audible into a pass and throwing that to my man Cooper for a TD...
 

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Okay, a QB

Okay, a QB sneak is one thing but how many people lose their minds anytime we throw with one yard to go? So let's get that out of the way. Too many people complaining about a call that didn't work.

As for the sneak, even that is no guarantee with a full yard to go. Defenses can take that away too. So perhaps dak might have been able to sneak through that gap but how the heck do you know whether there will be a gap before the play? Any, the tackles would certainly have pinched in to try and stop the sneak.

Anyway, I am fine with throwing the ball most of the time when we need a yard. But I am betting many of you will lose your mind every time we do that and it doesn't work. And some of you will complain even when it does work.
 

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the Coaches call the play and the defense lines up- They can't talk to the QB once the clock hits 15 right

DAK has to make that call. Bonehead of the year award to Dak!
Bingo, sometimes a QB just has to see something and call it. Stop blaming coaching for everything when it was a clear mistake on the QBs part.
 

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Do you know there wasn't an audible? Do you know the playbook only has 5 plays? So where's your facts?
It's a fact, per Dak, he gets 2 plays. So that's what you have to go by. There's no indication that Dak is lying.
 

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The problem is, is that that it wasn't a yard, it was closer to two yards. The way the D was stacked a bootleg to the short side or a bootleg pass to the left side would have gotten the first down.

We forget the Cowboys don't have the dominant O-Line like they did in 2016 and it's designed to go behind Williams of all people.
 

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4th and 1, 15 minutes to go single coverage with Cooper on the right, even with Talib.

Romo calling an audible into a pass and throwing that to my man Cooper for a TD...

Sure...except the TD part...more like INT...

Hence the reason he threw so many game and season crushing picks in his career.
 

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Okay, a QB

Okay, a QB sneak is one thing but how many people lose their minds anytime we throw with one yard to go? So let's get that out of the way. Too many people complaining about a call that didn't work.

As for the sneak, even that is no guarantee with a full yard to go. Defenses can take that away too. So perhaps dak might have been able to sneak through that gap but how the heck do you know whether there will be a gap before the play? Any, the tackles would certainly have pinched in to try and stop the sneak.

Anyway, I am fine with throwing the ball most of the time when we need a yard. But I am betting many of you will lose your mind every time we do that and it doesn't work. And some of you will complain even when it does work.

Especially if we are taking the ball out of Zeke's hands...As I said, Dak would be excommunicated from Dallas on the spot.
 

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Do you know there wasn't an audible? Do you know the playbook only has 5 plays? So where's your facts?
It's a fact, per Dak, he gets 2 plays. So that's what you have to go by. There's no indication that Dak is lying.
Once again Dre, your pulling answers from your back side. Nope, and after watching all season, I'd say 5 plays in ole vanillahans playbook is being very giving. Tell me he doesn't run practically the SAME plays in a game, with maybe a slight tweak every so often. I don't know ANY one who hasn't saw how predictable this team was ALL season. As for Dak getting 2 plays to choose from, again, what exactly was the other play? My guess, it moved Zeke from running right up the middle to running off center between the gurd and THAT was as lame as the initial so why change it with the defense as it was. Please, if your so in love with the OC and his grand play calling, just say so.
 

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Once again Dre, your pulling answers from your back side. Nope, and after watching all season, I'd say 5 plays in ole vanillahans playbook is being very giving. Tell me he doesn't run practically the SAME plays in a game, with maybe a slight tweak every so often. I don't know ANY one who hasn't saw how predictable this team was ALL season. As for Dak getting 2 plays to choose from, again, what exactly was the other play? My guess, it moved Zeke from running right up the middle to running off center between the gurd and THAT was as lame as the initial so why change it with the defense as it was. Please, if your so in love with the OC and his grand play calling, just say so.

And I will say after watching. You don't know what the heck you're look at, there's more than 5 different plays in 1 game, you're just talking dumb, and even still, you have no idea want a in the playbook. And again, the man himself said he gets 2 plays, and have leeway to kill a play. How stupid can you be.
 

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And I will say after watching. You don't know what the heck you're look at, there's more than 5 different plays in 1 game, you're just talking dumb, and even still, you have no idea want a in the playbook. And again, the man himself said he gets 2 plays, and have leeway to kill a play. How stupid can you be.
Well, I'm apparently not as stupid as you.... I may be making fun of the 5 play, play book, but your dumb enough to keep running to an empty well, not smart enough to know hyperbole when you read it... good grief...
 

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Zeke is a BEAST, but he's no Walter Payton.

And yes, Sweetness would have easily gotten that 1st down!



Along with our Emmitt!


Not for nothing but watching Walter throw all of those half back passes, I wish Garrett and Linehan would work on creating plays like that. Imagine Zeke throwing to a wide open Cooper? If they did that play on the 4th and 1, it likely would have been a TD it would be so wide open.
 

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Not for nothing but watching Walter throw all of those half back passes, I wish Garrett and Linehan would work on creating plays like that. Imagine Zeke throwing to a wide open Cooper? If they did that play on the 4th and 1, it likely would have been a TD it would be so wide open.
ROFL,,, you do know your talking about coach Kluntz, the waterboy dude, Vanillahan doesn't have the imagination to do any more then he does... 5 plays different routes.
 

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Well, I'm apparently not as stupid as you.... I may be making fun of the 5 play, play book, but your dumb enough to keep running to an empty well, not smart enough to know hyperbole when you read it... good grief...

Lol...how dumb are you, when the play was called it wasn't empty, Dak had every opportunity to kill the play. He didn't . What part of that don't you freaking understand, the only way he didn't, is if the defense walked up late in the play clock.
 

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Lol...how dumb are you, when the play was called it wasn't empty, Dak had every opportunity to kill the play. He didn't . What part of that don't you freaking understand...lol
I would assume about the same understanding YOU seem to have on all of this... so long done arguing with a block of wood. Hell you either didn't read, can't read or both my post... an empty well as in pulling you along for a drink that aint gonna happen... Good Grief Shirley
 
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