How does Dak get credit for his rookie year but Linehan gets blame since

[Galian Beast]

Does it make any sense to anyone that everyone credits Dak for his own rookie year, but Linehan doesn't get the same pass? Dak has been average at best since then, but escapes all the blame.

I'll never figure that out, just like I won't be able to figure out how Garrett manages to go through coordinators and still stay without any real success... He is lucky that no team in our division has maintained a dominant roster during his tenure.

If we were in the AFC East, AFC North, NFC North, NFC West we would have been a laughing stock.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Does it make any sense to anyone that everyone credits Dak for his own rookie year, but Linehan doesn't get the same pass? Dak has been average at best since then, but escapes all the blame.

I'll never figure that out, just like I won't be able to figure out how Garrett manages to go through coordinators and still stay without any real success... He is lucky that no team in our division has maintained a dominant roster during his tenure.

If we were in the AFC East, AFC North, NFC North, NFC West we would have been a laughing stock.

Linehan gets the blame, since he didn't get it done, before Dak became the QB of the Cowboys. If it's all on Dak and not on the coaches, then how come this team didn't get past the divisional round with Romo? I believe that Garrett's time should be limited if we miss the playoffs or get kicked out in the divisional round again next season.

 

[kevm3]

Average? Not having a losing season and getting to the second round of the playoffs twice in ones first 3 years is average? What blame has dak escaped? he has been bashed nonstop on this board and even during a winning streak.

Linehan gets bashed because he keeps calling plays like we had the 2016 online. The kellen moore hire is questionable as well.

 

[TexasBacon]

Because Linehan didn't adjust after that year and all the other teams did once they had tape on Dak running the offense built for Romo. That's a coordinators job.

 

[Batman1980]

He should've been fired for that dive on 4th and 1 with the season on the line alone.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

First of all, I feel like Dak gets slack because he shows flashes of being great. At times, he is shown to be clutch, make smart decisions, and throw downfield if he really wanted to. He is willing to put his body up to score and put his team up. Being a QB is different than being an OC or HC. Linehan seems to tried to make Dak a pocket passer when thats NOT what he was. He never used Dak to Dallas' advantages.

Also, many great QB's are/were masked by terrible coaching. Goff is a great example. As is Mayfield. Both had big HC changes and both teams went off the wire with greatness when changed. I'm sure people will change their minds if Dak is still bad with a new OC, however, we need to give him a chance to do so

 

[lqmac1]

Does it make any sense to anyone that everyone credits Dak for his own rookie year, but Linehan doesn't get the same pass? Dak has been average at best since then, but escapes all the blame.

I'll never figure that out, just like I won't be able to figure out how Garrett manages to go through coordinators and still stay without any real success... He is lucky that no team in our division has maintained a dominant roster during his tenure.

If we were in the AFC East, AFC North, NFC North, NFC West we would have been a laughing stock.

Because nobody really knew Dak’s strengths and weaknesses and he was allowed to be more mobile when he was a rookie. Instead of Linehan working with that, he thought Dak could be as efficient as a pocket passer and it has backfired.

 

[dwreck27]

Him keeping his boy Kellen Moore around longer than he should have as a player was a strike..

Him keeping Kellen and gifting him the QB position job instead of an analyst role was the final mark for me

.... plus how do you struggle to put up points with the weapons we have?

 

[mattjames2010]

Linehan gets the blame, since he didn't get it done, before Dak became the QB of the Cowboys. If it's all on Dak and not on the coaches, then how come this team didn't get past the divisional round with Romo? I believe that Garrett's time should be limited if we miss the playoffs or get kicked out in the divisional round again next season.

Linehan helped Romo have one of his best seasons, made Murray a league leading rusher, made McFadden relevant for half a season, and helped make Dak rookie of the year and Zeke a league leading rusher his rookie season and his third season.

I'm not a huge fan of Linehan, but he's had far more success as an OC than I would say Garrett has had as HC or Marinelli has had as our defensive coordinator.

Was Linehan the problem in Detroit? Stafford had his best season with Linehan. Not much has changed for Stafford, still a dude with a lot of potential that has never been met. How did multiple OCs do for Alex Smith? How about Jay Cutler?

Eventually, you have to start looking at if the QB simply has the talent to get it done.

 

[Galian Beast]

Average? Not having a losing season and getting to the second round of the playoffs twice in ones first 3 years is average? What blame has dak escaped? he has been bashed nonstop on this board and even during a winning streak.

Linehan gets bashed because he keeps calling plays like we had the 2016 online. The kellen moore hire is questionable as well.

I love how to point to success as a QB you are talking about team success rather than individual contribution.

 

[Lutonio]

I'm not one that puts Romo on pedestal and has all of these "if only Romo had this defense" thoughts, but I think he was extremely helpful to Dak that year. I remember shots of him coaching Dak up between series.

I think Romo was the OC that year.

 

[mattjames2010]

Because nobody really knew Dak’s strengths and weaknesses and he was allowed to be more mobile when he was a rookie. Instead of Linehan working with that, he thought Dak could be as efficient as a pocket passer and it has backfired.

You don't win in this league like this. This weird thing you folks think that if we just start putting in the playbook to "run more", that will answer all our problems

1. You have no idea if Dak is being told not to run
2. Most "runs" in the NFL aren't designed, it's the QB having the awareness in a situational spot to know when to take off

This isn't college football.

 

[mattjames2010]

Him keeping his boy Kellen Moore around longer than he should have as a player was a strike..

Him keeping Kellen and gifting him the QB position job instead of an analyst role was the final mark for me

.... plus how do you struggle to put up points with the weapons we have?

You get those decisions are run through Garrett, right? He is an offensive minded coach

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I always found it funny that Dak lovers throw up all these stats that "prove" he is an elite QB. And in the very next breath say how awful the scheme is and the coaches, like neither have an impact on the success that Dak has had. It's just silly. If he is completing passes at a historic rate, people have to be open, if they are open, the scheme had done it's job. I don't care one way or the other regarding Scott being here or being fired, I don't think he is the main issue with the offense, the issue is the guy taking the snap. But we will all see what a new guy can do with it, and let's just hope that it was Scott all this time.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Linehan helped Romo have one of his best seasons, made Murray a league leading rusher, made McFadden relevant for half a season, and helped make Dak rookie of the year and Zeke a league leading rusher his rookie season and his third season.

I'm not a huge fan of Linehan, but he's had far more success as an OC than I would say Garrett has had as HC or Marinelli has had as our defensive coordinator.

Was Linehan the problem in Detroit? Stafford had his best season with Linehan. Not much has changed for Stafford, still a dude with a lot of potential that has never been met. How did multiple OCs do for Alex Smith? How about Jay Cutler?

Eventually, you have to start looking at if the QB simply has the talent to get it done.

I believe that Romo being on the sidelines and mentoring Dak, helped him in his 2016 season, just as much if not more than Linehan did. And some always acted like Romo had to change Linehan's plays at the line. Murray's season, had to do with the offensive line, as much as the playcalling.

But, some believe that Dak who has been in the NFL for 3 seasons, is supposed to have his position perfected. While Linehan and Garrett, should get multiple chances and multiple QBs to work with, until they win a Superbowl. Or that Dak is more to blame than Garrett, when Garrett failed to get over the hump with Romo.

Plus, should all QBs get a 3 year limit with the Cowboys to prove themselves? Since there's always going to be a portion of Cowboys fans not happy with the QB, like Romo proved before. How many QBs should Linehan and Garrett get a chance with? For them having years more of NFL experience over a 3 year QB?

 

[dwreck27]

You get those decisions are run through Garrett, right? He is an offensive minded coach

I dont think Garrett has much input anymore other than suggestions that most HCs give on the headset of what their seeing on the field level when their OC is in the box

This is all on linehan.... if your offense cant score its on you.

Your QB has seen minimal development in 3 years... that's on you and your adopted step son Kellen

 

[JeffInDC]

That is a very simple answer GB. The problem in Dallas is very simple to deduce - the coaches (from Garrett on on down) have, for years, practiced a form of stubbornness that is second to none. Their seems to have been an egotistical approach to all facets of the organization (save for maybe their draft processes - but, we all know THAT took years to correct as well). The arrogance consistently led Jerry to proclaim how the club was always one player away from.........I’m sure you get what I mean.

Now, for the reasons I put more blame on Linehan than Prescott - all you really needed to do every week was listen to the minions of talking heads would speak after every game. The consensus I got was “Dak needs to improve X, Y, or Z......BUT Linehan’s play calling and design are crap and oh so predictable”. Predictable play calling - been a thing ‘round these parts even when Rayne Dakota Prescott was still in HS. For all of Garrett’s issues, Linehan was given the keys in 2015 and many of the same issues were present - lack of imagination in play calling AND play schematics. I’ve watched so many little snippets about the simplicity YET brilliance of McVay’s offense to realize that Linehan became his own worst enemy. Anyone that has played and/or coached this game know the best coaches mold their schemes to the strengths of their players - not the other way around. And, Linehan never really did that. That whole sequence between Coop and Dak in the Eagles told us all that. What happened when they decided to change the play? Exactly...….

 

[CATCH17]

Because Linehan didn't adjust after that year and all the other teams did once they had tape on Dak running the offense built for Romo. That's a coordinators job.

Some people don’t get it.


Dallas offense has so many tendencies and plays into those tendencies.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I always found it funny that Dak lovers throw up all these stats that "prove" he is an elite QB. And in the very next breath say how awful the scheme is and the coaches, like neither have an impact on the success that Dak has had. It's just silly. If he is completing passes at a historic rate, people have to be open, if they are open, the scheme had done it's job. I don't care one way or the other regarding Scott being here or being fired, I don't think he is the main issue with the offense, the issue is the guy taking the snap. But we will all see what a new guy can do with it, and let's just hope that it was Scott all this time.

They don’t put up stats to prove he’s elite. They bring up stats to prove he’s not the worst quarterback in the league.

 

[tm1119]

This board is ridiculous when it comes to blame in general.

Bad FO decision= old crazy Jerry again
Good FO decision= Stephen or McClay is a
genius

Dak’s issues being blamed on Kellen Moore

Coaching issues switched from Garrett’s scheme to its all Linehan’s fault

Everything was Marinelli’s fault and Richard did everything that went well


It will really never end either