Goff / Wentz / Prescott - after 3 years

[CalPolyTechnique]

Which of those QBs would I trust in a pressure-packed situation?

Dak Prescott, every single time.

Wentz is a proven bum in crunch-time. Nick Foles has thoroughly exposed Wentz as the loser that he is.

Thanks for playing!

Of course when Dak fails then all the excuses get trotted out “it’s the coaching....bad play-calling...the defense didn’t hold up.”

 

[CWR]

Give me the Dak attack and my premium draft picks.

 

[superonyx]

If Dak is accused of being a dink and dunker, then Wentz is a dink and dunker extraordinaire.

The difference in games started between the 3 skews the numbers.

Yards per attempt however is apples to apples.

The best ability is availability.

Wentz is always hurt. Has been since college.
It has to be factored in.

 

[Nav22]

Of course when Dak fails then all the excuses get trotted out “it’s the coaching....bad play-calling...the defense didn’t hold up.”

Your buddy Wentz went 5-6 this season with the same team Foles carried to the playoffs.

Then this came out:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/carson-...agles-quarterback-as-selfish-not-team-player/

I know it’s tough to accept that you’ve been supporting a flat-out LOSER who doesn’t even play for your favorite team.

Dak outplayed Wentz this year and has had the better career thus far, both in terms of stats and W/L record. Wipe the egg off your face.

 

[Prime21]

When Dak has success it is because of a great supporting cast. Great OLine play and running game. When Wentz and Goff have success it is not because of that at all. They are just better.

 

[silvrNblue]

Props to Mosher, no game winning drives, no QB Winz and no rushing TDS added to passing TDS to create deception... does the average Dak slobberer even know what the other numbers in this chart even mean?
With Goff’s totals being accomplished in 10 fewer games than Dak, Goff is an easy winner. If you exclude Goff’s numbers as a 22 year old having to take over at midseason for a Jeff Fisher train wreck, Goff has easily lapped the field the last two years.

Ummm, and a new, bright minded HC to boot...just sayn. Dak, meh, not so much, but yet he still leaves that sour taste in the Romo slubs mouths..

 

[CATCH17]

Of course when Dak fails then all the excuses get trotted out “it’s the coaching....bad play-calling...the defense didn’t hold up.”

I'm not a big Dak supporter when it comes to his ability but if JAred Goff can go to a Superbowl then so can Dak with the right coaching.

Our staff has never built a game plan that heavily involves moving Dak around in the pocket.

We've basically gave Dak the Troy Aikman game plan.

If he were in a offense that took advantage of his mobility he'd be a lot more effective and so would the WR's and Zeke.

Something like Shannahan runs.

When teams focus in on Zeke like they do we should be throwing teams for loops as to where the ball is going but Garrett makes it as bland and basic as possible.

 

[silvrNblue]

What we should be asking is what would Dak have looked like with Jeff Fisher and/or the general the lack of weapons the Eagles/Rams had 3 years ago?

Or, you could be asking, what IF Dak had a young bright football minded HC take him over the last 3 years? Hummmm one does have to wonder

 

[jrumann59]

Goff is really the worst of the 3 when it comes to ability. Goff can't read defenses well enough that his coach has to tell him what his reads are at the line. Of the 3 I would take Dak, he has proven to be durable, he does "learn". That really puts him above Wentz, Coff...

 

[visionary]

There's some information that makes comparing them side-by-side impossible.

For instance, Goff played in only seven games his first year, so Dak has nine more starts, which skews the passing yards, passing TDs and interception numbers. However, although the TD and passing yards would be higher for him, the overall numbers would likely be worse because he got off to a slow start.

Same with Wentz, he has eight less starts than Dak. An argument could be made, though, about his inability to stay healthy.

Then, there's progression to consider. Goff completed 64.9 percent of his passes this year for 4,688 yards, 32 TDs and 12 interceptions, which is a progression from his second season, which was a step up from his first.

Dak completed 67.7 for 3,885, 22 and 6 which was a progression from the previous year and about even with his first. So the good news for us is that Dak's numbers got back to being right in line with his first season. However, it's hard to say he put up better numbers than Goff considering that Goff clearly was passing more based on almost 1,000 more yards passing. That usually affects your completion percentage and interception and TD numbers.

To blanket put their stats down and just go by that fails to consider multiple factors. However, it is nice to see that Dak returned to his 2016 level statwise when it didn't look like that was possible early in the season.

Good post

 

[Kaiser]

lol 2016 QB class? Typically a 4th round QB is not even mentioned with top 2 QBs picked in the first round of a draft. My point is there were quite a few QBs picked before Dak that arent ever mentioned.

Hackenberg was taken in the second round that year and is already out of the NFL.

Also it took six premium picks in trade to get Goff and four to get Wentz.

 

[GMO415]

When Dak has success it is because of a great supporting cast. Great OLine play and running game. When Wentz and Goff have success it is not because of that at all. They are just better.

Huh?......Goff needs Gurley, Woods, Cooks, and his OL. Wentz needs his RB, Jefferies, and especially Ertz.

Neither Goff nor Wentz are in Brady's class where they can elevate another's talent level..

 

[J12B]

W-L should have been included on this list.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

When Dak has success it is because of a great supporting cast. Great OLine play and running game. When Wentz and Goff have success it is not because of that at all. They are just better.

I hate it when people use this excuse. EVERY QB NEEDS A GREAT SUPPORTING CAST TO BE GOOD. Goff wouldn't have made it to the Super Bowl if it wasn't for his O-line. He had/has one of the best O-Lines in the league. Great RB, Good receivers, and most of all, great coaching. When all that was taken from him, was he "better"? No. He wasn't. All the teams that made it to the Championship had good O-lines, coaching, and receivers. Jeez. Dak was in the same situation and got crapped on because his O-line wasn't as good and his WR-Core was bad, but when it happens to Goff or Wentz? "They're still great QB's they just don't have anything." Try another excuse please.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Why do Dak haters judge him on everything other than stats? If you would mask the names and ask the Dak haters which QB you would rather have, most would still pick Dak. Dak has his flaws but you cannot deny the fact that he holds up to the top two QBs drafted in his class other than where he was drafted. Dak haters cant get over the fact that he was drafted in the fourth round.

 

[Kaiser]

Wentz is a proven bum in crunch-time. Nick Foles has thoroughly exposed Wentz as the loser that he is.

You could say that Wentz was "spazzing out". That was his description of Prescott until he beat the Seahawks and went to the Pro Bowl.

 

[HungryLion]

Dak is the only one of the 3 that walked into the NFL and got to drive a Maserati. He's often driven it like a prius.

What we should be asking is what would Dak have looked like with Jeff Fisher and/or the general the lack of weapons the Eagles/Rams had 3 years ago?

If you think that the cowboys have had a better supporting cast than the Rams or Eagles, accumatively, over 3 seasons.

You are on crack.

 

[ClintDagger]

No one is saying Dak is better than Wentz or Goff. I feel like the comparison is trying to say that Dak isn't that far off. Everyone writes him off as a terrible QB when he isn't really that far off compared to the ones that everyone bashes over.

I feel like a lot of people are saying that TBH.

 

[JustChip]

Last night (If I heard right) Romo said, the Patriots want to prevent Goff from bootlegs and keep him in the pocket to scan the field. As I suspected, Goff doesn't have much between the ears, and it's McVay that is giving him pre-snap assistance.

Wentz had to be reassured by Pederson that he wasn't going to lose his job to Foles. That's sissy like behavior fit for pop-warner and not the Pros. Lastly, Wentz is completing 63% on 7 yards attempt. That's pathetic completion percentage for someone that throws a lot of screens.

Give me Dak all day every day!

The other thing NE did yesterday was call 2 defensive alignments, show 1 and then change inside 15 seconds on the play clock after communication from the bench is stopped. It forced Goff to have to read the defense himself rather than McVeigh doing it for him and telling him what to do. That's what a GOAT coach does to win Super Bowls (this is not some veiled shot at Garrett - there's only 1 GOAT).

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Dak is the only one of the 3 that walked into the NFL and got to drive a Maserati. He's often driven it like a prius.

What we should be asking is what would Dak have looked like with Jeff Fisher and/or the general the lack of weapons the Eagles/Rams had 3 years ago?

One of the most untrue statements posted in here in a long time.