Rumor: DLaw looking for 100mils / 70 guaranteed

Sydla

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We wouldn't just let him walk.... we would get at least a 1st back for him or he isn't worth 100m

With 100m and a 1st we could solve our DE problem

I am not talking about tagging him. Some just want to let him walk - no contract, no tag. We aren't getting a 1st in that scenario.
 

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This is a guy who has disappeared in the big games lately. Not only that, but there is always the chance of a relapse and the further suspensions that come with it.

In short, I don't trust him and he just seems like the kind of guy that would sit on a fat contract and call it a career.

Let somebody else pay him, this team has already tried winning with 4-5 highly paid "stars" with a pack of minimum wagers left over. It was ugly.
 

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This is a guy who has disappeared in the big games lately. Not only that, but there is always the chance of a relapse and the further suspensions that come with it.

In short, I don't trust him and he just seems like the kind of guy that would sit on a fat contract and call it a career.

Let somebody else pay him, this team has already tried winning with 4-5 highly paid "stars" with a pack of minimum wagers left over. It was ugly.
We got DLaw in the second round
 

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So let him go and take your chances then. If you think you hate Taco Charlton now, just wait.
Dorance Armstrong showed potential at DE, plus Gregory. Tyrone Crawford and Taco Charlton could back them up.

David Irving can be resigned very cheap due to his headcase decisions, so you could keep him on the roster and help him with his psychological situation while getting him ready to come back and play both DT/DE in 2019.

Maliek Collins, Antwuan Woods, Caraun Reid and Daniel Ross could be kept to handle the DTs positions. Possibly try to draft another big hole plugger during the draft.

There. The Dline could be kept intact, still competitive and for cheap without having to pay such a ridiculous amount of money on just 1 player. If D-Law truly is asking for $100 mil with $70 mil guaranteed, let him walk. Use his compensatory pick to draft a position of need. D-Law is expendable.
 

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This is a guy who has disappeared in the big games lately. Not only that, but there is always the chance of a relapse and the further suspensions that come with it.

In short, I don't trust him and he just seems like the kind of guy that would sit on a fat contract and call it a career.

Let somebody else pay him, this team has already tried winning with 4-5 highly paid "stars" with a pack of minimum wagers left over. It was ugly.
(in bold ^^^) Yep. How quickly they forget.
 

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Disagree. It's about building/keeping a yearly competitive team within the restrictions of a yearly salary cap. That's the bottom line. If not, why watch if you're going to overpay 3-5 players while not having enough money left to afford a competitive team?

You can’t win without talent. And you have to pay talent eventually. New England gets it done with a legendary coach and the GOAT at QB who plays for the bargain basement price of 15mil a year.

As I said— they are an outlier. If want to have what they have— go be a Pats fan or play Madden and run your own team. To expect any other team to be able to pull off what they are doing as if it some “formula” is just setting unrealistic expectations
 

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Dorance Armstrong showed potential at DE, plus Gregory. Tyrone Crawford and Taco Charlton could back them up.

David Irving can be resigned very cheap due to his headcase decisions, so you could keep him on the roster and help him with his psychological situation while getting him ready to come back and play both DT/DE in 2019.

Maliek Collins, Antwuan Woods, Caraun Reid and Daniel Ross could be kept to handle the DTs positions. Possibly try to draft another big hole plugger during the draft.

There. The Dline could be kept intact, still competitive and for cheap without having to pay such a ridiculous amount of money on just 1 player. If D-Law truly is asking for $100 mil with $70 mil guaranteed, let him walk. Use his compensatory pick to draft a position of need. D-Law is expendable.

LOL.

That's not a very good DL. Armstrong barely played so to say he showed potential, enough potential that he could start in place of Lawrence is absurd.

If you let Lawrence walk, you have to draft a DE high and/or bring in a free agent DE who can play a little. And even then, your DL might be short.

There's nothing inherently wrong with letting him walk, but you better have a much better plan than "It's no big deal, DE will be fine with Gregory, Armstrong starting and Crawford (who is a DT) and Charlton backing up".
 

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Dorance Armstrong showed potential at DE, plus Gregory.

Yeah, those 0 sacks for the entire season were very impressive.

Tyrone Crawford and Taco Charlton could back them up.
With their 5.5 and 1 sack respectively? This looks worse all the time.

David Irving can be resigned very cheap due to his headcase decisions, so you could keep him on the roster and help him with his psychological situation while getting him ready to come back and play both DT/DE in 2019.

Maliek Collins, Antwuan Woods, Caraun Reid and Daniel Ross could be kept to handle the DTs positions. Possibly try to draft another big hole plugger during the draft.

There. The Dline could be kept intact, still competitive and for cheap without having to pay such a ridiculous amount of money on just 1 player. If D-Law truly is asking for $100 mil with $70 mil guaranteed, let him walk. Use his compensatory pick to draft a position of need. D-Law is expendable.

Is this some sort of a sick joke?
 

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Where was D-Law the last 8 games of the season, plus the playoffs? Playing injured.

How did that turn out?

He still had quality pass rushes and was strong against the run— all with a bum shoulder. Are you really basing your argument to not pay D Law on the quality of his play?

That dog won’t hunt. The dude was a monster with one arm and posted double digit sack years while fighting through double teams and chips all year. And he is a leader in the locker room.

You don’t want to pay him? Fine. Agree to disagree but don’t blame it on D Law not being productive for us. That’s just ignorant
 

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I'll put it this way. People raved about the strides our defense made in 2018 going from a bottom half of the league defense to a Top 10ish defense.

Letting Lawrence walk with no real plan to replace him just makes this defense slide back into mediocrity and certainly not heading towards a Top 5 defense.

So if you let him walk, you better have a really good contingency plan in place.
 

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Yeah, those 0 sacks for the entire season were very impressive.

With their 5.5 and 1 sack respectively? This looks worse all the time.



Is this some sort of a sick joke?

And didn't half Crawford's sacks come from DT spot?

At what point do we understand that Tyrone Crawford is most effective at the 3T and inside on passing downs?
 

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And there are plans going forward without Lawrence that make sense.

Like if you were able to sign Frank Clark (he'd be cheaper than Lawrence but Seattle likely isn't letting him go) and then parlay the Lawrence savings into maybe bringing in a better DT like Grady Jarrett. So for $17MM I get Lawrence, but maybe for $20MM I get Clark AND Jarrett? I'd take that any day.
 

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http://nfltraderumors.co/nfc-east-notes-cowboys-eagles-giants-Commanders-41/

If repost feel free to delete.

Note to myself: Bye Bye.
I’d give him 70mil guranteed in a heartbeat. I think there would be talk of getting out of the contract after year 4. So you can probably assume probably 35mil signing bonus. 4 yrs 68mil with a 7 mil dead cap in 2023. 15.75-17mil avg for them 4 yrs. I’d jump at that if I were the cowboys
 

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That was not said..... but they don't have numbers because they didn't play much

Not a fair comparison

They also don't play much because one is a mid round rookie who is likely unpolished and more of a situational DE type and the other is likely a first round bust.

So when America's Cowboys propped those two up as replacements for Lawrence, stash was right to call him out on that idiocy.
 

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You can’t win without talent. And you have to pay talent eventually. New England gets it done with a legendary coach and the GOAT at QB who plays for the bargain basement price of 15mil a year.

As I said— they are an outlier. If want to have what they have— go be a Pats fan or play Madden and run your own team. To expect any other team to be able to pull off what they are doing as if it some “formula” is just setting unrealistic expectations
So you want more of the Romo years of having 5 overpaid players who gobble up 75% of your cap while not having enough left to keep a good enough team? You act as if D-Law is as good as D-Ware was? Not even close.

Lay off them red bulls, and instead, wake up and smell the roses. D-Law is not worth $100 mil with $70 mil guaranteed.
 

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I'd peg Lawrence's deal at $40 million at signing and $60 million guaranteed overall. Essentially locking it in as a three year deal at a minimum.
Donald got 40mil Lawrence will get less. I can see 30-35mil sb
 
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