Rumor: DLaw looking for 100mils / 70 guaranteed

[Stash]

And didn't half Crawford's sacks come from DT spot?

At what point do we understand that Tyrone Crawford is most effective at the 3T and inside on passing downs?

Never, apparently. They continue to waste seasons lining him up at right defensive end, the very worst spot you could line up a player like him.

 

[Stash]

That was not said..... but they don't have numbers because they didn't play much

Not a fair comparison

And they didn't play much because they didn't do anything with the snaps they did get. Let's face facts.

 

[Nightman]

They also don't play much because one is a mid round rookie who is likely unpolished and more of a situational DE type and the other is likely a first round bust.

So when America's Cowboys propped those two up as replacements for Lawrence, stash was right to call him out on that idiocy.

DLaw looked like a bust Year One as well with 0 sacks

 

[CPanther95]

And the contract to Bell wasn't misleading. In fact, I said exactly what you said in my post. $33MM guaranteed at signing, $45MM in total pay if he makes it 3 years.

Then you didn't read what I said.

The ONLY fully guaranteed money was the $10 million signing bonus.

 

[Nightman]

And they didn't play much because they didn't do anything with the snaps they did get. Let's face facts.

It is hard to get sacks on running plays

DLaw and RGregory played the obvious passing downs

 

[America's Cowboy]

They also don't play much because one is a mid round rookie who is likely unpolished and more of a situational DE type and the other is likely a first round bust.

So when America's Cowboys propped those two up as replacements for Lawrence, stash was right to call him out on that idiocy.

So speaks a Dak hater.

Idiocy.

 

[Stash]

Donald got 40mil Lawrence will get less. I can see 30-35mil sb

Donald got $50 million total at signing.

 

[Stash]

It is hard to get sacks on running plays

DLaw and RGregory played the obvious passing downs

Even harder when you're not good enough. There's very good reasons why they were playing "on running plays" because they're not good enough to be in those pass rushing roles. This team isn't hurting itself by undermining great pass rushers here.

 

[LatinMind]

Donald got $50 million total at signing.

40mil was the sb and his salary for 2018 and 2019 was guranteed.

 

[Nightman]

Even harder when you're not good enough. There's very good reasons why they were playing "on running plays" because they're not good enough to be in those pass rushing roles. This team isn't hurting itself by undermining great pass rushers here.

Not good enough or not better than DLaw and RGregory are 2 different things

Aaaron Rodgers wasn't good enough to play over Favre

 

[Sydla]

DLaw looked like a bust Year One as well with 0 sacks

So what's your point? That Armstrong or Charlton can replace Lawrence?

You seem to be arguing for the sake of arguing. In one breath, you claim people are stupid for letting Lawrence walk, then want to pick a fight with posters who are calling people out for claiming we can let Lawrence walk because we can roll with Armstrong and Charlton to pair with Gregory.

Which is it?

 

[Stash]

40mil was the sb and his salary for 2018 and 2019 was guranteed.

So the $50 million total like I said? Thanks.

 

[Stash]

Not good enough or not better than DLaw and RGregory are 2 different things

Aaaron Rodgers wasn't good enough to play over Favre

Ultimately, it's the same thing. They don't play and don't get sacks because the team puts the better players out there.

 

[America's Cowboy]

DLaw looked like a bust Year One as well with 0 sacks

Exactly. Actually, his first and third years.

 

[Nightman]

So what's your point? That Armstrong or Charlton can replace Lawrence?

You seem to be arguing for the sake of arguing. In one breath, you claim people are stupid for letting Lawrence walk, then want to pick a fight with posters who are calling people out for claiming we can let Lawrence walk because we can roll with Armstrong and Charlton to pair with Gregory.

Which is it?

I just don't run down my players to prop someone else up

With 100m and a 1st round pick DLaw can easily be replaced when added to what we have
I would also be happy keeping him a reasonable deal

it is not a zero sum game

 

[ShiningStar]

Just curious if anyone would choose Clowney over Tank. Let’s also assume money is close or equal.

remember when people swore Clowny was all that and than some?

 

[America's Cowboy]

Even harder when you're not good enough. There's very good reasons why they were playing "on running plays" because they're not good enough to be in those pass rushing roles. This team isn't hurting itself by undermining great pass rushers here.

Randy Gregory had 6 sacks with a boatload of QB pressures, along with 25 tackles, for his first year back playing part-time after a couple of years being absent. I can see him getting at least 10 sacks in 2019.

 

[Hawkeye19]

So you want more of the Romo years of having 5 overpaid players who gobble up 75% of your cap while not having enough left to keep a good enough team? You act as if D-Law is as good as D-Ware was? Not even close.

Lay off them red bulls, and instead, wake up and smell the roses. D-Law is not worth $100 mil with $70 mil guaranteed.

D Law is currently a top 3 player at his position. I understand you may not want to pay him 100 million/70 mil guaranteed— BUT if that is what the market value for a top 3 DE is— you have to negotiate realistically.

Keep in mind— his asking price is a rumor at this point, and it may be posturing more than likely. Players ask for the moon and settle for less regularly.

If you let him walk— who do you replace him with? Right. You just opened up another hole on your roster. A rookie certainly won’t match his production— so are you going to dip into FA and overpay for someone else’s guy?

Let them negotiate and we will see what his true numbers are. My guess is that he will a star and be playing for closer to 85 million and 60 guaranteed.

 

[Little Jr]

Dallas needs to pay the man his market value for three reasons:

1. D Law balled out while injured this year and was a good soldier while playing under the tag. He is a top 3 DE right now in the NFL— pay him what he deserves

2. The philosophy the FO has established and communicated is that they want to build through the draft, develop their players, and sign their guys longterm that produce. If they let D Law walk— they lose credibility with players and the result could easily be a loss of trust that the FO will give their productive core players long term security in a very violent sport.

3. They lose further credibility with the fan base. You can’t tell us you will stay out of FA bc you want the cap to sign your best players— and then you let a guy like D Law walk. Fans will question their commitment to winning (more than they already do) and moves like this cement the narrative that the Jones family are only in this for money.

Bottom line: sign D Law for what he is worth. Honor your players when they produce and they will run through a brick wall for you.

The FO doesn't have a lot of credibility with me but not signing him to this amount wouldn't make them lose any with me, it would actually make them gain some with me.

As far as losing credibility with players, how? With not signing one player they drafted? They signed, Fred , Martin , Smith, Crawford, Lee, Dez. Some of those to highest paid or top 3 at their position and 1 who probably didnt deserve what he got. So I can't see not signing Dlaw as them losing any credibility with their players

 

[Nightman]

D Law is currently a top 3 player at his position. I understand you may not want to pay him 100 million/70 mil guaranteed— BUT if that is what the market value for a top 3 DE is— you have to negotiate realistically.

Keep in mind— his asking price is a rumor at this point, and it may be posturing more than likely. Players ask for the moon and settle for less regularly.

If you let him walk— who do you replace him with? Right. You just opened up another hole on your roster. A rookie certainly won’t match his production— so are you going to dip into FA and overpay for someone else’s guy?

Let them negotiate and we will see what his true numbers are. My guess is that he will a star and be playing for closer to 85 million and 60 guaranteed.

He was 18th in Sacks last year