Nate Burleson on Dak-Pay him!

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is not a statement on what Dak is or is not worth. This is more of a statement on the reality of the situation. I don't believe the Cowboys can pay top Dollar for Dak. If you decide to do that, then it's likely that the surrounding members of the team, both now and going forward, do not get paid. We will lose very important pieces of the puzzle IMO. The economics of the QB position, in todays game, are counter productive to sustained success of a franchise IMO. Unless you have a QB who is unselfish enough to accept less then the maximum, and lets face it, the market drives QB salaries far above what they actually deserve, you really can't sustain success. If you have a QB as talented as AR and you can't win, then that should really tell you all you need to know about how that works.

 

[glimmerman]

If things didn’t go perfect for Dak when he had no impact on the salary cap why do you think it will when he’s eating more space then anyone on the team?

Your solution? Knowing that JJ is keeping him regardless of what we think..

 

[glimmerman]

Why do you think this? I don't believe this at all.

JJ and SJ believe in him and are signing him. Luckily if SJ is involved he will be getting it fine as cheap as possible. It out of our hands and I don’t want to see them blow the cap with 35+..

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

JJ and SJ believe in him and are signing him. Luckily if SJ is involved he will be getting it fine as cheap as possible. It out of our hands and I don’t want to see them blow the cap with 35+..

I have seen no proof of this. I have seen statements that say they want to sign him long term but I've nothing to suggest that they would consider paying him 30 million a year or that any offer they have put forward is even close to a deal. I don't think you can pay Dak that kind of money and keep all the pieces in place. I definitely don't think you can sustain that for any amount of time if you go down that path.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Your solution? Knowing that JJ is keeping him regardless of what we think..

I don't think we can assume that "JJ is keeping him regardless". At least, not with out tagging him and the rules around that could change in the next year or so. I think that's not a certainty, at this point.

JMO

 

[glimmerman]

I don't think we can assume that "JJ is keeping him regardless". At least, not with out tagging him and the rules around that could change in the next year or so. I think that's not a certainty, at this point.

JMO

I am ok with this. Play him through his rookie deal and tag him the next year if you want. If our O-Line improves next year (IMO with everyone healthy they will) then Dak is going to play better than this year without even improving himself. And I believe he will improve his game over last year. You could be backing yourself into a even bigger contract. You have a QB that in 3 years has helped his team win the division and make the playoffs twice. That’s not bad at all.

 

[glimmerman]

I have seen no proof of this. I have seen statements that say they want to sign him long term but I've nothing to suggest that they would consider paying him 30 million a year or that any offer they have put forward is even close to a deal. I don't think you can pay Dak that kind of money and keep all the pieces in place. I definitely don't think you can sustain that for any amount of time if you go down that path.

Your right. He needs to be a brady type leader that takes a little less and makes a team friendly deal to keep talent around him. We will see if he is willing to do that. I am hoping he will.

 

[Runwildboys]

I don’t advocate a Rodgers like deal or even a cap killing Romo contract but 5-110 sounds good to me.

See, we agree on this. Does that mean you're being negative or I'm being uncharacteristically positive?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I am ok with this. Play him through his rookie deal and tag him the next year if you want. If our O-Line improves next year (IMO with everyone healthy they will) then Dak is going to play better than this year without even improving himself. And I believe he will improve his game over last year. You could be backing yourself into a even bigger contract. You have a QB that in 3 years has helped his team win the division and make the playoffs twice. That’s not bad at all.

No, that's true. On the face of it, it's actually pretty good. The problem is, the OL will not be as good going forward, if you pay him that kind of money right? We will lose talent in all areas of the team because anybody who is really good will likely move on, once their deals are up. It's just economics unfortunately.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Your right. He needs to be a brady type leader that takes a little less and makes a team friendly deal to keep talent around him. We will see if he is willing to do that. I am hoping he will.

Me too. I mean, I'm not saying pay him like he's an average QB. I think in a lot of areas, he's way above average honestly. I think you pay him 17 to 18 a year with a decent arrangement for reaching 20 million in incentives and you give him a nice guaranteed portion with a nice signing bonus.

 

[glimmerman]

No, that's true. On the face of it, it's actually pretty good. The problem is, the OL will not be as good going forward, if you pay him that kind of money right? We will lose talent in all areas of the team because anybody who is really good will likely move on, once their deals are up. It's just economics unfortunately.

Dak isn’t going to take 15 million a year. And we aren’t going to go out and get a replacement cheap and have the same success. We aren’t going to keep D-Law for 10 million a year. There is a price for these players and we have to pay to play. We are going to lose players going forward once these good players contract come due. We can’t kee everyone. That’s why we need a good draft and quality backup through FA.

 

[glimmerman]

Me too. I mean, I'm not saying pay him like he's an average QB. I think in a lot of areas, he's way above average honestly. I think you pay him 17 to 18 a year with a decent arrangement for reaching 20 million in incentives and you give him a nice guaranteed portion with a nice signing bonus.

Yes please. Lol. If he is willing to sign something like that then of course. I would even go for 25 million with incentives and he would likely reach them. He is going to get better but the window is closing with the current talent around him. Beez is his go to guy and I wanted to keep him. But not looking good right now. This will effect his game going forward.

 

[exciter]

I don’t advocate a Rodgers like deal or even a cap killing Romo contract but 5-110 sounds good to me.

What #s Nate? He can't hit 4000 yards passing. Can't hit the 25 td threshold. Can barely throw for 250 yards in the vast majority of games. He cant win without Elliot. Exactly what #s he talking about?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yes please. Lol. If he is willing to sign something like that then of course. I would even go for 25 million with incentives and he would likely reach them. He is going to get better but the window is closing with the current talent around him. Beez is his go to guy and I wanted to keep him. But not looking good right now. This will effect his game going forward.

I would not pay him 25 million. He isn't worth that IMO.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

There is literally nothing about this post that makes sense.

One, yes, the top QBs in the league have their contracts and contract negotiations scrutinized. This isn't a unique situation to Dak. There was coverage of what the Eagles and Nick Foles would do (pick up the option, would Foles then opt out, is Philly going to tag and trade him, etc.).

Two, the coverage of his contract isn't even that bad.

Three, yes, fans and media often think a player should sign a team friendly deal. This again, isn't unique to Dak.

Dak is no victim here.

Don't be obtuse. Dak's contract has received waaaay more press than the others. Either you live under a rock or you're purposely denying the obvious.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

He didn't have to make the Tom Brady salary comments last week, could have just said that his new contract was between the team and his agent to deal with. But he didn't. He opened this can of worms. Like it or not, now he has to deal with the fallout from it.

Don't like the people talking about it myself, but no national commentators we talking about this before Dak himself said what he said.

Did he bring up Brady or answer a question posed to him? I'm not sure. Anyway it was being blown out of proportion before the Brady comment. He might not even be offered this offseason so it's premature.

 

[mattjames2010]

Don't be obtuse. Dak's contract has received waaaay more press than the others. Either you live under a rock or you're purposely denying the obvious.

Where? In Dallas? No crap.

 

[Runwildboys]

Cowboys Nation doesn't deserve Dak.

That can be taken 2 ways.

 

[OmerV]

I wonder how Dak feels being the only QB whose contract negotiations is everybody's business. I don't recall this hystria over any other QB or any other player in the league. Dak is the only player expected to accept less than the market bears. He hasn't even had a big payday yet, but he's already expected to make concessions. I hope there is a happy medium. Dak isn't the worst QB ever like some think, but it's also OK to admit that he's not the best ever either. The truth is somewhere in the middle. He is a proven leader and winner. That's a great start.

Every QB in Dak's situation gets a ton of attention. Cowboy fans just pay less attention when the QB plays for another team.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Where? In Dallas? No crap.

The OP is about a national sports show but carry on. It doesn't even matter.