News: USAToday: 5 reasons Jerry Jones may have tried to lure Adam Silver from NBA to NFL

[The Quest for Six]

Because Silver is good at his job and Goodell sucks at it?

Goodell is great at his job, He make billions of dollars for the league/owners and does what the owners want him too

 

[The Quest for Six]

'NBA is the best league' has turned into a Southwest Airlines 'Wanna Get Away?' commercial, lol.

This was pretty good

 

[Diehardblues]

I respect your opinion on this and your willingness on more than one occasion to take a less than popular position. But I think Goodell, with a big assist from owners looking to him to absorb bad publicity, has made his own bed. At the start of his tenure, he chose to be, more or less, the New Sheriff in Town, and was framed as a fair-minded disciplinarian. I think he has the right instincts, in this area, but has let himself be swayed by special interests and his personal desire to be popular with many of those interests. In some cases, he has ceded responsibility and hidden behind recommendations made by people who have inherent biases. Worse, he has been wildly inconsistent in enforcing and justifying disciplinary measures.

Under Goodell's leadership -- and in part because he hasn't used his bully pulpit adequately or at all, in some cases, the league has seen trust in its on-field officiating erode and appears to have allowed the quality of its officials decline. This is a major failure. The league hasn't been proactive in instituting measures to build trust. While it is true, fans will always question individual calls and officiating crews, the NFL has provided its critics plenty of ammo in the form of unclear and sometimes counter-intuitive rules interpretations (What is a catch?). The league has been inconsistent in communicating and explaining failure -- such as in the case of the missed PI that allowed the Rams to beat the Saints.

Goodell has been indecisive, at times, and the league has paid the price. Controversies have festered and finally exploded because he didn't take a strong, decisive position at the outset. Other times he has been remarkably stubborn and unwilling to bend in the face of new information or incomplete investigation.

Goodell has benefited from the league's massive popularity, something he didn't create. He has also benefited from the changed nature of television and the value such evolution has placed on sports programming content. Even with its warts, the NFL is the most valuable television property. But Goodell has been responsible for allowing or even prompting the development of some of those warts.

None of this is to suggest that Goodell has done nothing of value or to imply that he has had no hand in furthering the league's interests. But his position pays a staggering salary. One would expect him to be so utterly qualified and so consistently excellent that such salary is earned. He is not a $1 million/year employee. He is paid to be one of the most effective executives in the global business world. Virtually every league season has begun, in recent years, under some type of controversy and/or cloud. Not all of that is Goodell's doing, but he has played a role. Regardless, he is paid to minimize such distractions and to solve such issues before they become national controversies.

Goodell's job is tough. It is very tough. But his compensation reflects that toughness, and he should be judged by excellence. He has fallen well short of excellence.

The fact owners with their own individual interests in mind have decided not to punish Goodell's failures makes them no less relevant. In defeat, actually, I admired Jerry Jones' efforts more than I have on occasions when he has been an apparent victor. I don't see a "win" over Jones as vindication for Goodell's failure.

Fair points but we must always keep in mind Goodell represents the owners wishes and basically doing their dirty work for them. If at any time they feel he’s going outside that scope they can easily remove him.

 

[Cowboys22]

We came as close as we’ll probably come in 2017 with the commissioner and majority owners moving to force Jerry out.

Goodell stood his ground forcing Jerry to back off and has gained my respect.

Roger has ruled over the most controversial and contentious era in the NFL. History will reflect more favorably on him than current emotions.

No it won’t. History will reflect on this time as when the game was changed and ruined. It will be remembered for the never ending pointless rule changes and the inability to enforce them consistently which put the games in the hands of the officials more than the coaches and players.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Fair points but we must always keep in mind Goodell represents the owners wishes and basically doing their dirty work for them. If at any time they feel he’s going outside that scope they can easily remove him.

Agreed. You are 100% correct. My point is that their willingness to retain him, while every bit within their rights, doesn't mean that he has done a good job. I simply do not think the league is better for his leadership. I think its worse. But that is, of course, my subjective opinion. It doesn't mean I'm correct.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

 

[DallasEast]

Which is why I believe the NFL's focus on parity is ultimately good for the sport.

NFL's parity focus is good for maintaining a measure of consistent happiness across all fanbases. However, I am uncertain if the mandate is 'good' for the sport itself.

The NFL and NBA originated from similar backgrounds. Both sports grew and intertwined their mutual growth within the fabric of American culture. Both leagues because popular through certain teams nurturing drafted talent and acquiring talent via equitable trades along the way. While both leagues were 'top heavy' in previous eras, the top heavy teams had several top competing competitors vying for championships yearly. The annual battles of supremacy was the fuel that empowered both leagues to greatest that match and (in the NFL's case) superseded America's past-time of MLB.

Granted, both leagues 'got' to where they were by having some of their fans languish within the non-competitiveness of their franchises' leadership. Unfair? Yes. Yet the solution to the problem--in the NFL's case especially--was force neutering franchises' longstanding ability to retain proven talent for long periods and allow said talent to spread across more teams. Solution? Increase the talent level of more teams by sacrificing the overall quality and quantity of the best teams.

I would agree parity is good for making more fans happy. More fan happiness was driven financial growth for the NFL in particular since the first 1993 CBA. I disagree that parity is good for the sport of football, namely championship quality competitive football.

I will get back to the NBA. The comparison between the current 'bad' NBA formula and the previously 'substandard' NFL formula are not equal in my opinion. A successful NFL team roster has many working parts. An NFL roster requires a majority of good or very good players, a handful of very good or superb players and usually dependable or better special teams players numbering dozens working in unison across three separate groups.

An NFL roster's fortune has always been a trickier process for achieving success. It is one of the reasons why the passion of the NFL became what it was before forced parity. Fans watched certain teams (plural) come together and dominate the league. Currently, an NBA roster's fortune is pretty darn simple. Acquire two or three superb or great players via super max contracts and four or five solid support players. That's it. The NBA's problem is that it does not have a respectable pool of super or great players. So, even though NBA rosters are small in a league totaling two less teams than the NFL does, the question of who wins basically boils down to either: a) the Golden State Warriors and b) possibly which team has Lebron James on its roster.

The Patriots have taken the most advantage of the post-1993 CBA NFL era but even New England cannot claim its monopoly is equal to what the NBA has recently evolved into for determining champions. That said, the best quality of the sport of basketball is seen in The Finals (and sometimes in the conference finals). On one hand, the NBA has allowed itself to be driven a one franchise championship corner with its introduction of the supermax contract roster concept . On the other hand, the NBA's one franchise championship supermax contract concept demonstrates the best quality of assembled basketball talent rivaling and may sometimes even exceeding the top championship teams (plural) the Association annually fielded during its epic rise in American sports society.

Please excuse the lengthy rant. The word parity still strikes a nerve for me, lol.

 

[DallasEast]

This was pretty good

 

[Melonfeud]

The article is by KD Dummy. He posted here years ago.

He took a vague rumor about the NBA commissioner and made it into a story by making up his own reasons it was Jerry.

Ya, this "story" was ( I think) a column #1 header over on the drudge report a couple of days ago, I don't recall seeing Jerry Jones ( or any owners name for that matter) being mentioned in it then

 

[BlueStar22]

Glad Silver turned him down. The NBA is in the midst of surpassing the NFL. Give me a player's league over ownership any day.

 

[DallasEast]

Glad Silver turned him down. The NBA is in the midst of surpassing the NFL. Give me a player's league over ownership any day.

What year would you anticipate the NBA reaching that breakeven point in popularity?

 

[Ranched]

 

[ryanbabs]

I respect your opinion on this and your willingness on more than one occasion to take a less than popular position. But I think Goodell, with a big assist from owners looking to him to absorb bad publicity, has made his own bed. At the start of his tenure, he chose to be, more or less, the New Sheriff in Town, and was framed as a fair-minded disciplinarian. I think he has the right instincts, in this area, but has let himself be swayed by special interests and his personal desire to be popular with many of those interests. In some cases, he has ceded responsibility and hidden behind recommendations made by people who have inherent biases. Worse, he has been wildly inconsistent in enforcing and justifying disciplinary measures.

Under Goodell's leadership -- and in part because he hasn't used his bully pulpit adequately or at all, in some cases, the league has seen trust in its on-field officiating erode and appears to have allowed the quality of its officials decline. This is a major failure. The league hasn't been proactive in instituting measures to build trust. While it is true, fans will always question individual calls and officiating crews, the NFL has provided its critics plenty of ammo in the form of unclear and sometimes counter-intuitive rules interpretations (What is a catch?). The league has been inconsistent in communicating and explaining failure -- such as in the case of the missed PI that allowed the Rams to beat the Saints.

Goodell has been indecisive, at times, and the league has paid the price. Controversies have festered and finally exploded because he didn't take a strong, decisive position at the outset. Other times he has been remarkably stubborn and unwilling to bend in the face of new information or incomplete investigation.

Goodell has benefited from the league's massive popularity, something he didn't create. He has also benefited from the changed nature of television and the value such evolution has placed on sports programming content. Even with its warts, the NFL is the most valuable television property. But Goodell has been responsible for allowing or even prompting the development of some of those warts.

None of this is to suggest that Goodell has done nothing of value or to imply that he has had no hand in furthering the league's interests. But his position pays a staggering salary. One would expect him to be so utterly qualified and so consistently excellent that such salary is earned. He is not a $1 million/year employee. He is paid to be one of the most effective executives in the global business world. Virtually every league season has begun, in recent years, under some type of controversy and/or cloud. Not all of that is Goodell's doing, but he has played a role. Regardless, he is paid to minimize such distractions and to solve such issues before they become national controversies.

Goodell's job is tough. It is very tough. But his compensation reflects that toughness, and he should be judged by excellence. He has fallen well short of excellence.

The fact owners with their own individual interests in mind have decided not to punish Goodell's failures makes them no less relevant. In defeat, actually, I admired Jerry Jones' efforts more than I have on occasions when he has been an apparent victor. I don't see a "win" over Jones as vindication for Goodell's failure.

I totally agree with your point on the officiating and that is a major failure IMO. The fact that each of the networks has it's own officiating "expert" that chimes in on each and every penalty or controversial play says all you need to know.

 

[ghst187]

Because Silver is good at his job and Goodell sucks at it?

That sums it up!
RG is not only terrible at his job but a vindictive, biased, infantile egomaniac who has nearly ruined the league.

 

[HungryLion]

Goodell is great at his job, He make billions of dollars for the league/owners and does what the owners want him too

The league would be making billions without Goodell. Stop the fallacy that the leagues profits have anything to do with that moron.

 

[The Quest for Six]

The league would be making billions without Goodell. Stop the fallacy that the leagues profits have anything to do with that moron.

Just remember it was that maverick Jerry Jones had to take the other owners kicking and screaming with his marketing ideas and TV contract open bids that started the NFL into the giant they are today.....the fallacy is people who think Goodell doesn't.....Goodell negotiates the TV contracts, collective bargaining with the players, advertising agreements......he's not just some guy in a suit!! The owners like him, he's doing the job they want him too....while Goodell takes the hits from fans, the owners are raking in the cash from his work!!

 

[ColeBeasley11]

The “best” league?

The NFL makes twice as much revenue as the NBA. NFL teams are worth 52% more on average than NBA teams.

And even though NFL viewership is declining, a nationally televised NFL game is watched by 10-15 times more people than a nationally televised NBA game.

Just to make you look even more dumb with that statement I’ll throw out the best stat. The Super Bowl makes twice as much money as the entire NBA playoffs which has countless games.

Care to retract that statement? The NBA is child’s play compared to the NFL.

Thank you for that informative logical post. It’s insane too me people can have such strong opinions based on nothing.
Please post more keep educating everyone !

 

[KD Drummond]

The article is by KD Dummy. He posted here years ago.

He took a vague rumor about the NBA commissioner and made it into a story by making up his own reasons it was Jerry.

lmao @ KD Dummy!

 

[KD Drummond]

Ya, this "story" was ( I think) a column #1 header over on the drudge report a couple of days ago, I don't recall seeing Jerry Jones ( or any owners name for that matter) being mentioned in it then

Nowhere does the piece, in the headline or the article, proclaim to know that Jerry was one of the owners who reportedly reached out to Silver. The title is "5 reasons why Jones MAY HAVE TRIED." That's pretty clear that it is a thesis piece. Words matter; if it was stating Jones definitely was one of them, it would have been titled "5 reasons why Jones TRIED."

Then in the article, before the reasons are listed, it reads:

"It would surprise no one if it was ever uncovered Jones was one of the owners who tried to recruit Silver. With that in mind, here are five reasons we came up with on why Jones would want Silver as NFL commissioner."

And then it goes on to list 5 things either really attractive about Silver or why Jones would want to replace Goodell.

Where is the confusion coming from? LOL

 

[Melonfeud]

Nowhere does the piece, in the headline or the article, proclaim to know that Jerry was one of the owners who reportedly reached out to Silver. The title is "5 reasons why Jones MAY HAVE TRIED." That's pretty clear that it is a thesis piece. Words matter; if it was stating Jones definitely was one of them, it would have been titled "5 reasons why Jones TRIED."

Then in the article, before the reasons are listed, it reads:

"It would surprise no one if it was ever uncovered Jones was one of the owners who tried to recruit Silver. With that in mind, here are five reasons we came up with on why Jones would want Silver as NFL commissioner."

And then it goes on to list 5 things either really attractive about Silver or why Jones would want to replace Goodell.

Where is the confusion coming from? LOL

,,,er,,,is it really that dark& lonely where yer' at in this stage of the game,Bro?