Disturbing stat line for our WRs

[MojaveJT]

Multiple teams "plug" in WRs and RBs that aren't considered elite and get things done. Recent past Super Bowl winners, in fact, have done this. About the only team that did it with stud WRs was the 2015 Broncos, but even then, Peyton Manning was rotting away and couldn't throw beyond 10 yards.

Nobody asked for scrubs to replace elites - however, good value and solid players go a long way at the RB and WR position. Most importantly, they don't take up a ton of cap space.

I agree with your points and great coaches like BB, Pederson, Reich, etc. are able to make good to average players provide excellent value. I guess my underlying reason for this team’s failures belong in another thread.

 

[blumayne38]

Multiple teams "plug" in WRs and RBs that aren't considered elite and get things done. Recent past Super Bowl winners, in fact, have done this. About the only team that did it with stud WRs was the 2015 Broncos, but even then, Peyton Manning was rotting away and couldn't throw beyond 10 yards.

Nobody asked for scrubs to replace elites - however, good value and solid players go a long way at the RB and WR position. Most importantly, they don't take up a ton of cap space.

I assume you speak of new england, they have a great HC. And a great arguably the best ever QB. This team and that one are night and day. Plus the isn't only 1 way to win a SB. Amd when trying to win one it doesn't hurt to have super talented players like Zeke and cooper.

 

[mattjames2010]

I assume you speak of new england, they have a great HC. And a great arguably the best ever QB. This team and that one are night and day. Plus the isn't only 1 way to win a SB. Amd when trying to win one it doesn't hurt to have super talented players like Zeke and cooper.

> there isn't one way to win a Super Bowl

Cool. So tell me why the vast majority, if not all, have not relied on an elite WR or RB to get them a trophy? And before some knucklehead hops in stating "It's a team game broooo" - there is an obvious philosophy with teams that build their entire game around their best player.

I will state what I have a million times: You won't win a Super Bowl in the modern NFL without either an elite QB or elite defense. If you don't have an elite QB, you better damn well hope your defense is top of the league in every important category too. Skill players do not get you Super bowl wins. When Zeke burns out in the next couple years and we're ringless, at least you'll have his highlights to look back on while our divisional rivals continue to find their way to the Super Bowl.

 

[blumayne38]

> there isn't one way to win a Super Bowl

Cool. So tell me why the vast majority, if not all, have not relied on an elite WR or RB to get them a trophy? And before some knucklehead hops in stating "It's a team game broooo" - there is an obvious philosophy with teams that build their entire game around their best player.

I will state what I have a million times: You won't win a Super Bowl in the modern NFL without either an elite QB or elite defense. If you don't have an elite QB, you better damn well hope your defense is top of the league in every important category too. Skill players do not get you Super bowl wins. When Zeke burns out in the next couple years and we're ringless, at least you'll have his highlights to look back on while our divisional rivals continue to find their way to the Super Bowl.

I never said guarantee, but having elite plays helps at every level and a very sport. Zeke is one of those plays that are "gritty" " hard nosed" built for the game type players. Loves contact And 3 years in seems healthy And fine. And yes I love me some zeke highlights hes a monster. I hope despite everything things line up and our cowboys win a Superbowl. I feel like maybe only new england has proved they have a successful blueprint and it takes a elite and super elite QB to fullfil it. Imo.

 

[morat1959]

He leads our team in receiving because of Captain Dink and Dunk!

 

[percyhoward]

Share of targets & passer rating
Games 1-7
21% Beasley 117.3
18% Elliott 97.4
13% Hurns 85.1
12% Swaim 120.6
11% Gallup 75.5
25% (9 others) 54.4

Games 8-18
25% Cooper 121.3
18% Elliott 104.2
16% Gallup 80.8
13% Beasley 103.2
9% Jarwin 120.5
19% (9 others) 93.6

% of targets resulting in 1st down/TD
Games 1-7
Beasley 45%
Swaim 45%
Gallup 29%
Hurns 28%
others 25%
Elliott 18%

Games 8-18
Cooper 49%
Jarwin 49%
Beasley 48%
Gallup 33%
others 30%
Elliott 28%

 

[Corso]

Share of targets & passer rating
Games 1-7
21% Beasley 117.3
18% Elliott 97.4
13% Hurns 85.1
12% Swaim 120.6
11% Gallup 75.5
25% (9 others) 54.4

Games 8-18
25% Cooper 121.3
18% Elliott 104.2
16% Gallup 80.8
13% Beasley 103.2
9% Jarwin 120.5
19% (9 others) 93.6

% of targets resulting in 1st down/TD
Games 1-7
Beasley 45%
Swaim 45%
Gallup 29%
Hurns 28%
others 25%
Elliott 18%

Games 8-18
Cooper 49%
Jarwin 49%
Beasley 48%
Gallup 33%
others 30%
Elliott 28%

And here comes da facts.
You goobers...

 

[InTheZone]

Cole Beasley - 65 rec
Amari Cooper - 53 rec
Michael Gallup - 33 rec
Allen Hurns - 20 rec
Zeke Elliott - 77 rec

He's not only the best RB on the team, hes the best WR

How do people think with this WR group we could easily let zeke hold out. We definitely would be losing a huge chunk of our offense.

to be fair I don't think this outlines an issue with just the receivers. People will say yeah they're not all great, but what team has a great group? Everyone here has seen replays of wide open receivers and sure QBs can't see the whole field 100% of the time but I think ours may miss them more often than he should.

I see different topics with issues about our team, whether the playcalling, the receivers, the oline, but hardly ever do I see that maybe it's the guy that gets the ball every down that is the root cause of this? Not trying to say anyone sucks, but the issues aren't just directly related to that specific position.

 

[Risen Star]

Some of that has to do with the fraud QB though. You'll get a lot of checkdown receptions when your QB can't play.

 

[HungryLion]

Why is it being presented as an odd or bad thing for a running back to have a lot of receptions?

Running backs catching a lot of passes has been a part of a lot of high level offenses in the NFL, for a long time.

Marshall Faulk, Le’Veon Bell, Todd Gurley, ladanian tomlinson, etc. the list goes on and on.

 

[Risen Star]

Zeke's capable of actually running routes down the field and making some plays but again, you need a QB to really feature him that way. All we can do now is dump it off in the flats.

 

[Sydla]

Apparently he knows he's accounts for a high percentage of our offense and wants his money (that I think he deserves) early

Then let him sit out.

You can’t have a freaking TB hold the organization hostage.

 

[Flamma]

Apparently he knows he's accounts for a high percentage of our offense and wants his money (that I think he deserves) early

Early? Then what is the point of having rookie contracts with 5th year options? Does it not apply to him? He's the 4th overall pick, he should be good. But the Cowboys have to hold their ground here.

 

[cheftjpeck]

LA Rams paid their RB $$$$$

Zeke is making $

They talk. It’s not good.

Well he’s under contract for two more years with 5th year option ... plus he can be franchised after that .. he can hold out , he can go broke .. his choice ... this isn’t 1993 where an elite rb holds the cards... I love Zeke ... I respect the heck out of Zeke and he will probably be offered a reasonable contract eventually but if he tries the hold out card .. that’s not going to benefit him in my opinion

 

[Mr_437]

I need some popcorn or chips this thread is getting good. Great work PercyHoward with that chart of pass distribution!

 

[Idgit]

Number of receptions so violent not the sole basis for determining the quality of receivers.

 

[SSoup]

"He's not only the best RB on the team, he's the best WR"? Really?

Rank them by yards per catch, and tell me how great his 7 yards per catch looks to you. Because a blocking TE could match that pitiful average.

Comparing reception totals between running backs and real receivers like it means anything is stupid.

FB Richie Anderson leading our team in receptions didn't make him a better receiver than Witten and Glenn and Galloway. Moose catching more balls than Novacek and Harper didn't make him a better receiver than them.

Jerry Rice catching less balls than Roger Craig didn't mean Craig was a better WR than Rice. That's idiotic.

 

[OmerV]

Cole Beasley - 65 rec
Amari Cooper - 53 rec
Michael Gallup - 33 rec
Allen Hurns - 20 rec
Zeke Elliott - 77 rec

He's not only the best RB on the team, hes the best WR

How do people think with this WR group we could easily let zeke hold out. We definitely would be losing a huge chunk of our offense.

I don’t disagree that it is important to have Zeke with the team, but having the most receptions doesn’t make him the best WR.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I don't buy this at all, I take this more as Dak always taking the easy throw even missing open guys down field. He loves throwing to the flat on third and long to send our punter back out there.

 

[ClappingCarrot]

Another ill-advised thread started without thinking through the context.

You're probably a top contributor on the NFL memes Facebook page too.