My thoughts on the thoughts on Dak

[LatinMind]

I'm aware. For clarification I took what you said in your last paragraph and your mention of Linehan and gave you my opinion on that matter.

Then I see Dak is unable to utilize players Romo had, along with Witten walking away when he did as a sign to reiterate my opinion of him. Hopefully that clears up some misunderstanding.

You dont think witten walked away because he had a great situation with monday night football that paid him alot of money?

 

[mattjames2010]

Did you know Dak(7.4) is right with Brady(7.6) and Rodgers(7.4) in ypa?

Tom Brady, statistically speaking, had a down year. As did Rodgers.

I'm glad to see Dak's best is the best QBs in the NFL's worst.

 

[LatinMind]

Tom Brady, statistically speaking, had a down year. As did Rodgers.

I'm glad to see Dak's best is the best QBs in the NFL's worst.

tom Brady has a career ypa of 7.5 lol

 

[mattjames2010]

tom Brady has a career ypa of 7.5 lol

Yeah, genius, he's been in the NFL for 100 years. Dak has been in the league for 3 and one of those seasons he's been under 7 ypa.

"LOL"

 

[LatinMind]

Yeah, genius, he's been in the NFL for 100 years. Dak has been in the league for 3 and one of those seasons he's been under 7 ypa.

"LOL"

Brady has 6 yrs under 7ypa

 

[mattjames2010]

Brady has 6 yrs under 7ypa

Let's take a look at when those years happened, shall we? 4 of those happened in his first 6 years starting - different era, tougher defenses, Brady has already spoke about this. The other was 2013, again, not a great year for Brady - he had an 87.3 rating and there were talks about his "demise" that year that led into 2014 where he went on a rampage and won a Super bowl. Remember that? Of course you don't. "LOL"

Also, I see now you're leaving out Rodgers. Don't worry, I'm here for you. Let's take a little look, shall we? Rodgers had 7 seasons starting and every year was 7.0 ypa and 5 of those were 8 and above and 1 was 9 and above. He also had an MVP season in those years, but "LOL" why does that matter, right? Just matters during HOF induction. I'm sure Dak will get that for having a season where he averaged Brady's total career ypa "LOL"

 

[slick325]

The TD passes count tho @LatinMind. Dallas has issues scoring points. So the only difference you denote between 2014 Romo and Dak in his three years, TDs really makes a difference.

Hopefully thru maturation as a pro and Kellen Moore being innovative, the TD passes will come. With that, points per game should increase as well.

 

[LatinMind]

Let's take a look at when those years happened, shall we? 4 of those happened in his first 6 years starting - different era, tougher defenses, Brady has already spoke about this. The other was 2013, again, not a great year for Brady - he had an 87.3 rating and there were talks about his "demise" that year that led into 2014 where he went on a rampage and won a Super bowl. Remember that? Of course you don't. "LOL"

Also, I see now you're leaving out Rodgers. Don't worry, I'm here for you. Let's take a little look, shall we? Rodgers had 7 seasons starting and every year was 7.0 ypa and 5 of those were 8 and above and 1 was 9 and above. He also had an MVP season in those years, but "LOL" why does that matter, right? Just matters during HOF induction. I'm sure Dak will get that for having a season where he averaged Brady's total career ypa "LOL"

ok i didnt count bradys 2.0ypa first yr.

so he went under 7ypa in his first 3 yrs starting. How many yrs had dak been starting?

Aaron rodgers has a 7.8 ypa for his career. in the 3 yrs Dak has been in the league Rodgers has a 7.2 avg. Dak 7.4

 

[Coy]

Stats or no stats, comparing Dak to Romo is ridiculous, most everybody would agree. Romo was a much better QB.
Saying that, I like Dak, a slight above avg QB who has great intangibles, we can win with him when everything`s good/great around him. Not ideal I guess but it is what it is.

 

[OmerV]

Witten had his least amount of catches in 2014 - if you want to talk about "dumpoffs", you would have to look at Murray. But that was for an entire season, most of Zeke's catches came in the second half which means Prescott was dumping off far more.

Not necessarily so. It could merely mean the Cowboys were targeting Elliott more in the second half of the season. Besides, there really was only one game in the 2nd half where Zeke got a notably greater number of targets and receptions, and that was against Philly where he had 13 targets and 12 receptions, and one game in the first half where he had notably fewer targets and receptions, and that was against Jax where he had 1 target and 1 receptions. Other than those 2 games the usage of Zeke as a receiver was pretty consistent all season.

 

[JBS]

Let's take a look at when those years happened, shall we? 4 of those happened in his first 6 years starting - different era, tougher defenses, Brady has already spoke about this. The other was 2013, again, not a great year for Brady - he had an 87.3 rating and there were talks about his "demise" that year that led into 2014 where he went on a rampage and won a Super bowl. Remember that? Of course you don't. "LOL"

Also, I see now you're leaving out Rodgers. Don't worry, I'm here for you. Let's take a little look, shall we? Rodgers had 7 seasons starting and every year was 7.0 ypa and 5 of those were 8 and above and 1 was 9 and above. He also had an MVP season in those years, but "LOL" why does that matter, right? Just matters during HOF induction. I'm sure Dak will get that for having a season where he averaged Brady's total career ypa "LOL"

You really aren't good at this game

 

[LatinMind]

The TD passes count tho @LatinMind. Dallas has issues scoring points. So the only difference you denote between 2014 Romo and Dak in his three years, TDs really makes a difference.

Hopefully thru maturation as a pro and Kellen Moore being innovative, the TD passes will come. With that, points per game should increase as well.

They do, romo had 34 tds in that yr.

But when know theyre different types of QBs as Dak also gets tds with his feet.

2018 28 total tds
2017 28 total tds
2016 29 total tds

So im glad you brought that up. So i could further show how similar the production was in these yrs under Linehan

 

[mattjames2010]

ok i didnt count bradys 2.0ypa first yr.

so he went under 7ypa in his first 3 yrs starting. How many yrs had dak been starting?

Aaron rodgers has a 7.8 ypa for his career. in the 3 yrs Dak has been in the league Rodgers has a 7.2 avg. Dak 7.4

Again, context: the league was different in 2001 than it was in 2016 to 2018.

How long as Rodgers been in the league compared to Dak? I have a feeling you're acting stupid on purpose. This is embarrassing, even for the pro-Dak crowd.

Rodgers is outside of his prime, so Dak is playing on the level of the worst version we are seeing of Rodgers. Again, the best of Dak is the worst we see from elite QBs. Great.

 

[mattjames2010]

You really aren't good at this game

Don't waste my time and try to make a counter-argument. Otherwise, don't bother me. NEXT!

 

[LatinMind]

Stats or no stats, comparing Dak to Romo is ridiculous, most everybody would agree. Romo was a much better QB.
Saying that, I like Dak, a slight above avg QB who has great intangibles, we can win with him when everything`s good/great around him. Not ideal I guess but it is what it is.

Romo won when things when he didnt have the guys that he needed? Almost every QB needs to have the weapons to be successful. Only a select few in the history of the NFL have been successful without that situation.

 

[Little Jr]

You really aren't good at this game

He never is. He thinks he is, but he's not.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Again, context: the league was different in 2001 than it was in 2016 to 2018.

How long as Rodgers been in the league compared to Dak? I have a feeling you're acting stupid on purpose. This is embarrassing, even for the pro-Dak crowd.

Rodgers is outside of his prime, so Dak is playing on the level of the worst version we are seeing of Rodgers. Again, the best of Dak is the worst we see from elite QBs. Great.

You need to lie down and stay down. You're getting owned here. You bring up Rodgers. LatinMind shows that Dak has averaged a better YPA over his three years in the league so now you claim that Rodgers isn't all that good any more (outside his prime)?

Yeah. Seriously. You need to learn when to take the L and move on.

 

[LatinMind]

You need to lie down and stay down. You're getting owned here. You bring up Rodgers. LatinMind shows that Dak has averaged a better YPA over his three years in the league so now you claim that Rodgers isn't all that good any more (outside his prime)?

Yeah. Seriously. You need to learn when to take the L and move on.

The purpose of the thread wasnt even to get into Dak specifically but compare the similarities in production and stats in the 5yrs of Linehan in Dallas. even with Romo the offensive passing production and stats were limited. why because they played a ugly style of system that aimed more about keeping the opposing offense off the field and limiting their possessions. Some people just cant have a debate on something without turning it into something else.

 

[GMO415]

Dak is terrible, that is all

You're going to be miserable for several years to come. Dak ain't going nowhere.

 

[mattjames2010]

You need to lie down and stay down. You're getting owned here. You bring up Rodgers. LatinMind shows that Dak has averaged a better YPA over his three years in the league so now you claim that Rodgers isn't all that good any more (outside his prime)?

Yeah. Seriously. You need to learn when to take the L and move on.

Yes, he's outside of his prime. Clearly he is.

You aren't making a valid argument. He's comparing Prescott to Rodgers and Brady due to name recognition alone, rather than their season performances and where they are at in their career. Brady had a down season, statistically, this year. Rodgers is outside of his prime - he had a great 2016 season, but other than that, he has had statistically average seasons since 2015.

Try again, boy.