News: Could Cowboys Gregory be 'poster guy' for progressive NFL move?

[CCBoy]

Could Cowboys Gregory be 'poster guy' for progressive NFL move?
https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-co...r-guy-for-progressive-NFL-movement-129574921/



FRISCO -- Far from the Dallas Cowboys “giving up” on Randy Gregory, there may be a movement afoot that represents the exact opposite of that sentiment.

“He’ll continue to work and try to get professional help for his issues,” Cowboys coach Jason Garrett said last week when asked about Gregory being suspended yet again for violation of the NFL’s drug policy. “I do believe he’s made great strides in this area and the way it’s been explained to me is sometimes, relapse is part of rehab.”

Relapse is s part of rehab. These aren’t just the words of a coach who wants his pass-rusher absolved of all wrong-doing so he can hurry back to being a pass-rusher (though that is of course part of any team's wish); these are words of rare NFL enlightenment, and hint at a conversation subject i’ve engaged in with people close to the situation for the last couple of days:

What Randy Gregory can become the “poster guy” for a progressive NFL movement to empathetically understand the ties between marijuana use and mental health?...

 

[erod]

If it was after the next CBA, this wouldn't be an issue.

There won't be testing for marijuana then.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

From everything I have read Gregory's problems have more to do with mental health than substance abuse.

If he's making satisfactory progress in the league's program there's no reason to not let him return at some point this year. Not every case is different. I was ready to give up on Gregory when this news broke a couple weeks ago, but now I'm not so sure.

 

[GenoT]

All good and fine, and potential rehab “poster boy” notwithstanding, but I’ll bet a nickel against a stale donut that Randy Gregory doesn’t play in the NFL this season.

 

[Nightman]

They gave him a break last time

He was hitting rock bottom in Dec 2017 when he was supposed to asking to be re-instated after missing a full year

4 or 5 guys suspended out of 2000 doesn't seem like a problem

 

[CCBoy]

All good and fine, and potential rehab “poster boy” notwithstanding, but I’ll bet a nickel against a stale donut that Randy Gregory doesn’t play in the NFL this season.

No matter the course taken, one has to stick with the integrity of ethics. You root for a man to win his race.

 

[ItzKelz]

Just get rid of it. I would bet that more than half of the NFL smokes weed.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Do you gain popularity or lose popularity by allowing it? The NFL knows what the numbers say on this.

 

[xwalker]

Could Cowboys Gregory be 'poster guy' for progressive NFL move?
https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-co...r-guy-for-progressive-NFL-movement-129574921/



FRISCO -- Far from the Dallas Cowboys “giving up” on Randy Gregory, there may be a movement afoot that represents the exact opposite of that sentiment.

“He’ll continue to work and try to get professional help for his issues,” Cowboys coach Jason Garrett said last week when asked about Gregory being suspended yet again for violation of the NFL’s drug policy. “I do believe he’s made great strides in this area and the way it’s been explained to me is sometimes, relapse is part of rehab.”

Relapse is s part of rehab. These aren’t just the words of a coach who wants his pass-rusher absolved of all wrong-doing so he can hurry back to being a pass-rusher (though that is of course part of any team's wish); these are words of rare NFL enlightenment, and hint at a conversation subject i’ve engaged in with people close to the situation for the last couple of days:

What Randy Gregory can become the “poster guy” for a progressive NFL movement to empathetically understand the ties between marijuana use and mental health?...

Drug testing is going to be a huge topic during the next CBA negotiations.

In fact, I believe the NFL started and has enforced the drug policy in order to use it as a bargaining chip during the next CBA.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Could Cowboys Gregory be 'poster guy' for progressive NFL move?
https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-co...r-guy-for-progressive-NFL-movement-129574921/



FRISCO -- Far from the Dallas Cowboys “giving up” on Randy Gregory, there may be a movement afoot that represents the exact opposite of that sentiment.

“He’ll continue to work and try to get professional help for his issues,” Cowboys coach Jason Garrett said last week when asked about Gregory being suspended yet again for violation of the NFL’s drug policy. “I do believe he’s made great strides in this area and the way it’s been explained to me is sometimes, relapse is part of rehab.”

Relapse is s part of rehab. These aren’t just the words of a coach who wants his pass-rusher absolved of all wrong-doing so he can hurry back to being a pass-rusher (though that is of course part of any team's wish); these are words of rare NFL enlightenment, and hint at a conversation subject i’ve engaged in with people close to the situation for the last couple of days:

What Randy Gregory can become the “poster guy” for a progressive NFL movement to empathetically understand the ties between marijuana use and mental health?...

Marijuana testing is just stupid. To ruin a guys career because he cant stop smoking pot is pathetic. Its pathetic that you cant stop, but if that drug helps him deal with life and be a better person then why the hell shouldn't he take it? Certainly doesn't affect his football play.

 

[DHCBF66]

From everything I have read Gregory's problems have more to do with mental health than substance abuse.

If he's making satisfactory progress in the league's program there's no reason to not let him return at some point this year. Not every case is different. I was ready to give up on Gregory when this news broke a couple weeks ago, but now I'm not so sure.

But then there is Goodell, who enjoys making Jerrys life a living hell....

 

[tyke1doe]

If it was after the next CBA, this wouldn't be an issue.

There won't be testing for marijuana then.

You may be right. I think it will be gone after this CBA. The only caveat I have is if pot still is a federal crime. The NFL appears reluctant to go against federal rules. But the sentiment in society may be so far beyond the federal law, that the league may have to acquiesce, especially if the players union can make a case for marijuana for medicinal purposes. That ground has already been laid.

 

[Corso]

I'm stoopid and a goofball, but I just still like Gregory and I can't get mad at him for his indiscretions.

He really should be given the chance to have his career. He's not hurting the NFL, it's players, or the game with his habit.

I respect the rules. I know them and I understand.
But...

Sigh.

 

[Jipper]

Just get rid of it. I would bet that more than half of the NFL smokes weed.

Honestly it more about the fact that these guys are selfish than the weed....they can't stop doing something for a small period of time to get millions,,

Flight crews and attendants have no alcohol rules before flying and they adhere to them....same with truck drivers....why can't these guys stop to make millions....bc they put their own selfish habit first....so if you can't play by the industry rules get out of the industry.

 

[Garrettop]

As someone operating in the mental health arena, I have a soft spot for Gregory that I don't have for simple knuckleheads, despite even the need of "knuckleheads" for mental health services. There's a difference between a bad background and bipolar disorder, etc. Many people overcome bad backgrounds and become functioning members of society without any therapy. Bipolar disorder isn't something you simply "overcome". Being drugged, to put it crassly, is part of the treatment. Doing it with MJ isn't objectively worse than doing it with approved pharmacotherapy, if we put it in terms of simply being drugged.

 

[Corso]

As someone operating in the mental health arena, I have a soft spot for Gregory that I don't have for simple knuckleheads, despite even the need of "knuckleheads" for mental health services. There's a difference between a bad background and bipolar disorder, etc. Many people overcome bad backgrounds and become functioning members of society without any therapy. Bipolar disorder isn't something you simply "overcome". Being drugged, to put it crassly, is part of the treatment. Doing it with MJ isn't objectively worse than doing it with approved pharmacotherapy, if we put it in terms of simply being drugged.

I would like to have a serious conversation with you one day.

 

[Mr_437]

If he played for the Patriots, maybe.

 

[Vtwin]

He should be.

 

[buybuydandavis]

From everything I have read Gregory's problems have more to do with mental health than substance abuse.

If he's making satisfactory progress in the league's program there's no reason to not let him return at some point this year.

With an established psychiatric disability, Gregory would be able to sue most employers for the suspension. It's clear the NFL has exemptions from employment law, but I doubt that they're *entirely* exempt.

https://adata.org/factsheet/health

• Record of psychiatric disability. The ADA also prohibits discrimination against individuals who have a record (history) of a psychiatric disability or are regarded as having a psychiatric disability. This means, for example, that qualified individuals who have a history of psychiatric disability cannot be discriminated against just because of that history. Also, employers can’t take actions (such as failing to hire, demoting or denying training opportunities) because they believe a qualified applicant or employee might have a psychiatric disability.
• Rights under the ADA. Applicants and employees with psychiatric disabilities have two main rights under the ADA. First, they have a right to privacy. Except when asking for an accommodation, they can choose whether to tell the employer about their disability. Second, they have a right to a job accommodation unless this causes undue hardship for the employer.

Let's see the league try to argue that Gregory doing some joints is an "undue hardship" for the NFL.

 

[buybuydandavis]

As someone operating in the mental health arena, I have a soft spot for Gregory that I don't have for simple knuckleheads, despite even the need of "knuckleheads" for mental health services. There's a difference between a bad background and bipolar disorder, etc. Many people overcome bad backgrounds and become functioning members of society without any therapy. Bipolar disorder isn't something you simply "overcome". Being drugged, to put it crassly, is part of the treatment. Doing it with MJ isn't objectively worse than doing it with approved pharmacotherapy, if we put it in terms of simply being drugged.

CBD acts as a 5ht1a agonist, with antipsychotic, antidepressant, and anxiolytic effects.

Are they trying other 5ht1a agonists to treat pot addiction?