David Irving says goodbye for good to NFL **merged**

[Corso]

I think its funny to see everyone criticizing David Irving. The thing is, i bet half of these critics didnt even watch/listen to his video because in all honesty, he made some great points. Yes, he is passing up on a lot of money and a potentially great NFL career because the guy is a damned monster when hes out there. But in regards to what he said and why he is "quitting", i fully support him.

As a former opioid addict, first the pills then heroin (now in recovery, thank the good lord), what the NFL is trying to do by pushing Big Pharma's idiotic agenda and act like opioids are the answer to pain while punishing people for smoking weed to try and deal with the same pain is absolute bull****.

If David Irving can effectively deal with his pain/injuries from playing football through the use of marijuana, then i am all for him doing it and i think the NFL should be as well. Anything is better than getting physically dependent on opiods and benzos (which i have no idea why the NFL allows either, that is appalling to me as well.)

I think most people criticizing Irving have no idea how bad the opioid epidemic is right now and how many people it is killing by the day. I believe with the entire Purdue pharma case going on right now and the negative publicity they are receiving, more people will get familiar with just how corrupt that industry truly is and hopefully will force the NFL to finally change their damn policy on weed and stop pushing painkillers like water to the players.

This person is proud of you for your continued recovery and I hope that you stay strong and have a very healthy and happy life, my friend.
That struggle is real.

 

[glimmerman]

(That’s football, I quit football, not weed, just so we’re clear)

Wonder what happens in a year. How much will his tune change. I will say by week 9 we will start to hear chatter about how he has started to get his life together and his mental issues are under control. His home life has improved and he is ready to come back to football. Calls up JJ and starts asking for people to write letters for him to get reinstated.

 

[817Gill]

When drugs are more important than your work you have a serious problem

When drugs are given to you by your work there’s a serious problem. I want the guy on the field but I respect his decision. When the NFL finally stops testing for weed, it’ll be because of guys speaking up about the dangers of the opioids given to them by the league. Irving will be a big part of that debate, he saw something wrong and acted on it. Much respect.

 

[Stash]

I think its funny to see everyone criticizing David Irving. The thing is, i bet half of these critics didnt even watch/listen to his video because in all honesty, he made some great points. Yes, he is passing up on a lot of money and a potentially great NFL career because the guy is a damned monster when hes out there. But in regards to what he said and why he is "quitting", i fully support him.

As a former opioid addict, first the pills then heroin (now in recovery, thank the good lord), what the NFL is trying to do by pushing Big Pharma's idiotic agenda and act like opioids are the answer to pain while punishing people for smoking weed to try and deal with the same pain is absolute bull****.

If David Irving can effectively deal with his pain/injuries from playing football through the use of marijuana, then i am all for him doing it and i think the NFL should be as well. Anything is better than getting physically dependent on opiods and benzos (which i have no idea why the NFL allows either, that is appalling to me as well.)

I think most people criticizing Irving have no idea how bad the opioid epidemic is right now and how many people it is killing by the day. I believe with the entire Purdue pharma case going on right now and the negative publicity they are receiving, more people will get familiar with just how corrupt that industry truly is and hopefully will force the NFL to finally change their damn policy on weed and stop pushing painkillers like water to the players.

First of all, congrats on your recovery. Your same struggles have touched my family as well. And I agree with you on those points.

But that’s not David Irving. What he’s doing is zero effort and changes nothing. Like football, he’s not putting in any work for change. He’s crying because he can’t do whatever he wants whenever he wants.

If he was actually working for some change? Both you and I could respect that. But that’s not what he’s doing. Don’t get it twisted.

 

[AshyLarry06]

When drugs are more important than your work you have a serious problem

lol u see its people like you man who simply either choose not to read or purely cannot read, bc your comment literally has nothing to do with anything i just said. The drugs are NOT more important that his work, in fact he SAYS this in his video. Granted, the guy does seem to be a bit of an *** clown and im not trying to give him too much credit here BUT with that being said, his whole point (which i clearly agree with) is that he will not take the WORSE drugs (i.e. the god forsaken opiates) in order to continue his WORK. Get it?

 

[Stash]

Wonder what happens in a year. How much will his tune change. I will say by week 9 we will start to hear chatter about how he has started to get his life together and his mental issues are under control. His home life has improved and he is ready to come back to football. Calls up JJ and starts asking for people to write letters for him to get reinstated.

I think it’s more likely he goes the same way Rolando McClain did. Right into obscurity and irrelevance. Until they get arrested.

 

[JoeKing]

Naw that was something else lol. Don’t blame the weed on that one lol.

Do you think the science is wrong that says smoking weed causes brain damage?

 

[glimmerman]

There is a place for all of the above. Pain medicine in all forms have there place. Abuse of anything is on the person. I don’t blame the drug.

There are addicts of everything. And it’s real. Anyone that’s recovering then keep it up. From what I understand it’s a day by day thing.

 

[conner01]

I’ve dealt with addicts
It’s a sad situation that ruins their lives
I have compassion, and admiration for those who beat it
Irving costs himself millions of dollars that he can never get back. I hate what we lost as a player but it’s much more important what he lost as a person
His issues have forever changed his life and my hope for him is he can one day get his life back on track and have a great life

 

[blueblood70]

can we merge the 7 threads about this loser, hes waste of space yo..

 

[Parcells4Life]

He made a statement he’d only miss games if he couldn’t move.

Well he did nothing to rehab his ankle so he lost all credibility in his video in the first few sentences.

He’s had issues his entire football career dating back to Iowa State. Do you have any idea how much of a head case you have to be for Iowa State to get rid of a talent like that?

I highly doubt Irving, Gregory or Gordon are the only ones in the NFL that do drugs. But every other player understands the rules of the game take priority over what you WANT to do.

Anyone that thinks Zeke went from doing cocaine at Ohio State to now being a choir boy with no drugs is nuts. But he has his priorities in line and has found ways to probably have his vices in a controlled manner.

 

[DFWJC]

I think its funny to see everyone criticizing David Irving. The thing is, i bet half of these critics didnt even watch/listen to his video because in all honesty, he made some great points. Yes, he is passing up on a lot of money and a potentially great NFL career because the guy is a damned monster when hes out there. But in regards to what he said and why he is "quitting", i fully support him.

As a former opioid addict, first the pills then heroin (now in recovery, thank the good lord), what the NFL is trying to do by pushing Big Pharma's idiotic agenda and act like opioids are the answer to pain while punishing people for smoking weed to try and deal with the same pain is absolute bull****.

If David Irving can effectively deal with his pain/injuries from playing football through the use of marijuana, then i am all for him doing it and i think the NFL should be as well. Anything is better than getting physically dependent on opiods and benzos (which i have no idea why the NFL allows either, that is appalling to me as well.)

I think most people criticizing Irving have no idea how bad the opioid epidemic is right now and how many people it is killing by the day. I believe with the entire Purdue pharma case going on right now and the negative publicity they are receiving, more people will get familiar with just how corrupt that industry truly is and hopefully will force the NFL to finally change their damn policy on weed and stop pushing painkillers like water to the players.

Congrats and good luck on your recovery

Still, forget all the side issues and get straight to the point

David Irving is choosing pot over the NFL.

That's his right, but it's as simple as that.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is the reality. Anybody who is coming into the NFL, anybody who has played at a high level, understands what the NFL is about. The Weed thing is business and that's all it is. If you don't get that, then you are too stupid to be a part of the NFL. It's not about the right thing to do, it's not about being a social warrior, it's not about going and posting a rant on instagram after you have taken the money and played the game and then been kicked to the curb by the league and your team. That stuff is just petty but to try and turn this into some kind of moral issue on drug use, by Irving, is hallow. This guy 100% new what the NFL meant. He took the money and would still be taking the money, if allowed to. This is the same guy who posted about his girl buying him two hookers and being proud of that, just before the law showed for DV issues. Sorry, this guy should not be representing any serious issue and anybody who decides to look upon him and place validity in his word or actions is misguided. Irving, simply put, is an idiot. I'm sorry, I know he's somebodies Son but hey, I have Sons. When they do stupid stuff, I tell them, just like my Dad and my Mom told me when I was young.

 

[TruBluSince1982]

I have smoked a lot of pot in my younger days and never felt and medicinal properties from smoking it. It just made me goofy and in a good mood. I remember being high at work on a milling machine sending a 1" dia milling cutter flying into the wall. Pot hindered my soccer playing and it wasn't until I cut down immensely that I could play a good game without sucking wind and having that burning feeling in the lungs.

IMO, Pot is totally recreational and only alters the mind to a point the mind is distracted from pain and you become so goofy you don't have bad thoughts.

I have no idea why he needed xanax bars and I also wish him luck getting of xanax as I used xanax .25mg 2x/day (minor amounts) after surgery and it was hell when I was ready to stop taking it. The withdrawal symptoms lasted almost a year.

IMO, he just wants to party get high and not be drawn in to a serious profession at his age. If he needs xanax bars, his problems are quite deep and will have a hell of a time quitting Benzodiazepines.

But a funny story: We were painting condos on 10 ft ladders while high in the summer. My boss was explaining what to do if the ladder slips and you fall with the ladder. Just as he's done explaining, his ladder went sideways and he took a good 10ft tumble into the bushes and gave us great real life demonstration and we cheered and applauded him.

You didn't "feel" any medicinal properties? Lol

So when you take a Tylenol for a headache, do you "feel" the medicinal properties working in you before it relieves the symptoms of the headache?

Did you actually have some kind of illness that is said to be helped with Cannabis use when you did this? Just kinda curious... Otherwise doesn't really make a whole lot of sense otherwise.

 

[jterrell]

I think its funny to see everyone criticizing David Irving. The thing is, i bet half of these critics didnt even watch/listen to his video because in all honesty, he made some great points. Yes, he is passing up on a lot of money and a potentially great NFL career because the guy is a damned monster when hes out there. But in regards to what he said and why he is "quitting", i fully support him.

As a former opioid addict, first the pills then heroin (now in recovery, thank the good lord), what the NFL is trying to do by pushing Big Pharma's idiotic agenda and act like opioids are the answer to pain while punishing people for smoking weed to try and deal with the same pain is absolute bull****.

If David Irving can effectively deal with his pain/injuries from playing football through the use of marijuana, then i am all for him doing it and i think the NFL should be as well. Anything is better than getting physically dependent on opiods and benzos (which i have no idea why the NFL allows either, that is appalling to me as well.)

I think most people criticizing Irving have no idea how bad the opioid epidemic is right now and how many people it is killing by the day. I believe with the entire Purdue pharma case going on right now and the negative publicity they are receiving, more people will get familiar with just how corrupt that industry truly is and hopefully will force the NFL to finally change their damn policy on weed and stop pushing painkillers like water to the players.

Please don't take this the wrong way but this is just poorly done on every level.
It's equivalent to arguing RKelly has a point about the parents being out for money/fame.

DI had issues showing up period. He didn't love football and was suspended the 1st time for "gas station pills"....

As to being a beast. Give me a hard MEH there.
He had basically 1 stretch of games that spanned 2 seasons where he was truly impressive.
It was a blip on the radar.

Availability and Consistency are key abilities.

When he didn't even play in the playoffs it was clear it was over for him here and likely anywhere else.
He hadn't bothered staying in football shape and could not have cared less about the team.
Those kinds of people are anathema in every way.

DI attention seeking video was nonsense like basically all of his social media posts.

When you are suspended and no one wants you, it is less than meaningless to "retire". I am also formally announcing I am officially removing my name from the NFL talent pool in case they ever decide they need a 46 year old former back D1 safety.....

 

[Typhus]

I am not critical on Irving, I hope he gets his life together,, don't really care beyond that what he does.
Im more critical on the Dallas Cowboys Rehabilitation clinic, its better than the most elaborate Rehab clinic in the nation, even North Hollywood Hills.
We pay you millions while you try and rehab here, or you can go to the North Hollywood Hills clinic and you pay millions.
Im tired of being the the most "caring" team in the league.
Are we an NFL team or a rehabilitation team,, which is it?

 

[AshyLarry06]

There is a place for all of the above. Pain medicine in all forms have there place. Abuse of anything is on the person. I don’t blame the drug.

There are addicts of everything. And it’s real. Anyone that’s recovering then keep it up. From what I understand it’s a day by day thing.

I agree with that, but marijuana is now a known commodity of pain management that is non-addictive, whereas opioids are terribly addictive. And i disagree with the "abuse is on the person" statement as well with this particular drug because if a guy like Irving is dealing with tremendous levels of pain and the only way for him to play is by treating said pain with the "approved" pain management method (which are opioids), then he will be given large amounts.

With opioids, if you take them for long enough, you will get physically addicted- doesn't matter who you are, and that is where you "blame the drug". So i have no problem with him refusing to take them at all. You might be surprised as to how many people who have had their lives derailed by heroin started off by taking painkillers after a surgery and simply could not get off of them. It's a common and tragic occurrence..

 

[JPostSam]

the league’s rules may be dumb — and i think they will eventually change — but what’s dumber is insisting on smoking instead of staying clean long enough to earn millions.

 

[Direwolf63]

This thread and all future David Irving threads should be moved to the NFL zone.

Irving is no longer a Cowboy

 

[MadDog_78749]

he saw something wrong and acted on it.

Nods
When he was caught for the umpteenth time he finally decided to be brave & act on it.
Seems legit
lol