Speculation: Dak Deal To Be Finalized By End Of Next Week

[Jake]

If we don't get to the SB, it wont be Daks fault. Just like it wasn't Romo's fault.

Coaching and defense have been the problem here and that hasn't changed since Romo.

I don't disagree with the comments about coaching and defense, but how does giving a big contract to QBs who can't overcome those shortcomings fix those problems?

 

[BrassCowboy]

There was one point to this thread and it was that Dak is getting 25M+, if you want to argue should or shouldn’t start another thread.

so you create a thread that you KNOW will bring nothing but that very argument for what? just to say he will earn 25M+ and claim you called it first? ok then

 

[Rockport]

I don't disagree with the comments about coaching and defense, but how does giving a big contract to QBs who can't overcome those shortcomings fix those problems?

Cowboys rule, haters drool.

 

[cern]

lot's of i's to dot and t's to cross. but I have no doubt Stephen will do what's in the best interests of the team. get this one done and move on to Lawrence.sign him or trade him. preferably before the draft.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

How many teams have an elite QB?

NE, GB, NO all are close to the end. The NFL now is not a league where you have to have a elite QB to win. What the NFL is about now is playing and exploiting the rules. You dont need a elit QB to win a superbowl. WHat you do need is coaches who can use the rules to their advantage.

It's not a question of how many teams have an elite QB. I agree that you don't need an elite QB to win but you're going to have to surround him with the talent he needs to win if he's not elite which Dak clearly isn't. Better than average, yes. Good enough to win a Superbowl without talent around him, no.

All the coaching in the world isn't going to be good enough to win a Superbowl with an above average QB who's taking up a lot of cap space and a bunch of scrubs around him.

 

[Little Jr]

It's not a question of how many teams have an elite QB. I agree that you don't need an elite QB to win but you're going to have to surround him with the talent he needs to win if he's not elite which Dak clearly isn't. Better than average, yes. Good enough to win a Superbowl without talent around him, no.

All the coaching in the world isn't going to be good enough to win a Superbowl with an above average QB who's taking up a lot of cap space and a bunch of scrubs around him.

Name the qbs that have won super bowls without talent around them. I can think of one.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Well, that’s the calculated risk you take. If you wait, you will have to sign him to likely an even bigger contract. Like I said, I think they truly believe he is a franchise QB (and I agree with that assessment)

I don't think it is a calculated risk, honestly. I think it is a bit of homerism by Jerrah. To me, on the other hand, it isn't so bad to pay Dak more or as much as he deserves if he proves he is the real McCoy. If he is not, then you have the 2020 draft. And next season would've been the perfect season for Dak to prove himself too, considering the hard schedule we will have. How will Dak do versus Brady and the Pats? I don't like gambling on unknowns, and I rather pay more for something that is known than take the risk.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

If they already know he is their QB of the future, then it makes more financial sense to re-sign him sooner rather than latter. That mean's now rather than next season. I have no problem with what's going on there.

How do they know that? Does Jerrah's past track record gives you confidence? Does Jerrah saying dumb things that gives Dak's side leverage in negotiations give you confidence? Does our past track record for overpaying players and being in Salary Cap Hell give you that?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

How many teams have an elite QB?

NE, GB, NO all are close to the end. The NFL now is not a league where you have to have a elite QB to win. What the NFL is about now is playing and exploiting the rules. You dont need a elit QB to win a superbowl. WHat you do need is coaches who can use the rules to their advantage.

Do we have either? And will an average quarterback do that other teams can game plan against?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Because thats the market. Why dont you understand that QBs in this league are going to get paid. And dont act like Dak is a scrub. He's one of the better QBs in the NFL. This league is a league with QBs that couldnt play pre 2005. But thats just the game today. Its evolved to over protecting the QB.

He was top 10 in 2016. That was his Peak. He was figured out in 2017. He was 3-5 with average talent around him. He was game planned against in the Rams game. Dak is good enough to get you to the playoffs and even win a wildcard game. Is he good enough to win against the elite teams in the playoffs? Not right now he is. How are we going to get better if he has already peaked, possibly?

 

[Little Jr]

I don't think it is a calculated risk, honestly. I think it is a bit of homerism by Jerrah. To me, on the other hand, it isn't so bad to pay Dak more or as much as he deserves if he proves he is the real McCoy. If he is not, then you have the 2020 draft. And next season would've been the perfect season for Dak to prove himself too, considering the hard schedule we will have. How will Dak do versus Brady and the Pats? I don't like gambling on unknowns, and I rather pay more for something that is known than take the risk.

What will he need to do to prove he's the real McCoy?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

I don't disagree with the comments about coaching and defense, but how does giving a big contract to QBs who can't overcome those shortcomings fix those problems?

Here is the Dak Fanboy Logic:
1) Dak isn't to blame for such and such loss because the talent around him was average: Offensive Line, Recievers.
2) Dak deserves to get payed 27-32 million, which will make the talent around him average, or more average than it was last year.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

What will he need to do to prove he's the real McCoy?

Well what some of us been saying is wait to pay Dak. Don't pay him now, but pay him after the 2019 Season. Heck pay him more than he would get payed if he signs now, if he deserves it. The 2019 schedule itself will probably show us who the real Dak is. There should be plenty of games next season, where we can measure Dak in. Like i said, we'll have Dak vs Brady, or more important the patriots defense. We had a relatively easy schedule this year. Next year it should be harder.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

Name the qbs that have won super bowls without talent around them. I can think of one.

Trent Dilfer comes to mind if we're talking offense here. But they also had one of the best defenses in NFL history.

Which further proves my point that if you give Dak that much money, you wont be able to surround him with the help he needs.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Contract expected to be worth 27-30 M annually.

*I’ll post the source as soon as I can get the link*

I told you guys once but half the forum chose to ignore all the things said by the Joneses and Dak.

“Oh but he should be paid 18M because he’s not a top 5 guy.”

“Oh well even qb’s in the top 10 aren’t paid 25+.”

“Franchise qbs get 23M.”

Those same guys who make 22 now will make 32 their next contract. It’s called a market. Understand it and get over it.


PS. If you think this is fake news you’re literally setting yourself up to be crushed. Just accept it now.

At $30 million, I spit up. If true, that shows little football logic. And I might be done with it.
Dont do this to Cowboy fans.

 

[America's Cowboy]

This deal will set us back a decade. Dak is the furthest thing from a franchise QB.

 

[Little Jr]

Trent Dilfer comes to mind if we're talking offense here. But they also had one of the best defenses in NFL history.

Which further proves my point that if you give Dak that much money, you wont be able to surround him with the help he needs.

Lmao that's not the one I was thinking of. Even then, that's one QB you can name that won without talent around him although he had arguably the best defense ever.

Which futher proves my point, no matter the QB, they ALL need help. People act like there have been qbs who carried their team on their own to the super bowl. Just isn't true. Brady might be the closest .

 

[Little Jr]

Well what some of us been saying is wait to pay Dak. Don't pay him now, but pay him after the 2019 Season. Heck pay him more than he would get payed if he signs now, if he deserves it. The 2019 schedule itself will probably show us who the real Dak is. There should be plenty of games next season, where we can measure Dak in. Like i said, we'll have Dak vs Brady, or more important the patriots defense. We had a relatively easy schedule this year. Next year it should be harder.

Again, in your opinion, what will he have to do to show you he's the real McCoy?

 

[America's Cowboy]

At $30 million, I spit up. If true, that shows little football logic. And I might be done with it.
Dont do this to Cowboy fans.

 

[cowboys1981]

If Garrett is coaching for his job, then Dak needs to play for his. This should be a make or break for both parties. They either cement themselves into an extension, or we move on from both.

As positive as I am about things, this doesn't feel like the right thing our FO should do.