Speculation: Dak Deal To Be Finalized By End Of Next Week

[Super_Kazuya]

Most all people assign it. Most who don't see one's who dont like or approve of that QB and it wouldn't fit their narrative.

No “most” all people don’t assign it. It’s not even an official NFL stat. Stop spreading misinformation, you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
And just because people use it, doesn’t make it useful. For the longest time W-L was the sole way to judge pitchers until smarter people realized it had very little to do with performance.
Win loss stats for individuals in football is about as brain dead of a “statistic” as there is.

 

[Little Jr]

Well the problem is you want one singular thing that would prove to me that Dak is the real thing. I let you know that I don't think that is very logical to do and would be unfair to Dak. I know people who kept track of this debate between me and you can see me mentioning that. And now you are insuating that I'm being unfair because it is just 3 years. it was pretty obvious from the beginning that you were trying to trap me into saying something to make me look unreasonable from the beginning.

You give me a lot more credit than I deserve by saying I was trying to trap you. I actually was just trying to figure out what a non Dak Fan like yourself would turn you around. Pass the eye test which is the go to now for Dak because they get destroyed in any other conversion and a division win was your answers.

I said in 2016, toward the end of the year, that Dak was going to be Romo all over again in that, no matter what he does he'll have the detractors that will never give him credit and I'll be defending him just like did Romo for 10 years. 2.5 years later, I'm still doing it.

 

[Little Jr]

No “most” all people don’t assign it. It’s not even an official NFL stat. Stop spreading misinformation, you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
And just because people use it, doesn’t make it useful. For the longest time W-L was the sole way to judge pitchers until smarter people realized it had very little to do with performance.
Win loss stats for individuals in football is about as brain dead of a “statistic” as there is.

Most people do and they dont win it doesn't fit their narrative . I'm fairness others do when it does fit their narrative.

Qbs and coaches have always had Ws and Ls put next to their name. Fair or not , right or wrong, it's always been that way. It matters even if you don't think it does

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

I do the same thing that's been done in the NFL since the beginning, put a w or l beside the QB name. When they say Aikman was the winningest QB of the 90s they don't go back an watch film and decide if the QB was reason or not. Even if they won a game 10-6 he gets the credit. Just like Dak gets credit for the 13-10 win over the saints this year and the 6-0 win over the eagle's in 2017. But he also takes the Ls for games like the GB and rams game in 2017 when his offense scored 31 and 30 pts but lost because the defense gave up 35 both games. People act like Dak fans are the first to do it and act they never have done with a QB they approved of. Lol that's just for you .

And that is exactly the kind of thinking that can get you in trouble when trying to negotiate a contract. The thinking where you just look at a number instead of all the facts. Dak started his career on a very good team. He had a very good team this year too, IMO. And well people more qualified than me or you have said that Dak have ridden the wave of a talented team to wins. For instance, what about right after the 2016 season when most of us thought that Dak was the quarterback for the futurem and Eagles Head Coach Doug Peterson made mention of it? What about Jimmy Johnson questioning Daks accuracy to Troy Aikman on national TV? These coaches don't know what they are talking about? It's all based on Ws and Ls and we should just ignore these fools? What about Dak being 3-5 with an average an average offensive line and average receivers before we got an talent infusion called Amari Cooper? Without Coop, if Dak would've continued at that exact pace we would've ended up as 6-10. We are supposed to ignore that too? It must be nice, not to have any worries, even with certain trends happening in front of your face.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

You give me a lot more credit than I deserve by saying I was trying to trap you. I actually was just trying to figure out what a non Dak Fan like yourself would turn you around. Pass the eye test which is the go to now for Dak because they get destroyed in any other conversion and a division win was your answers.

I said in 2016, toward the end of the year, that Dak was going to be Romo all over again in that, no matter what he does he'll have the detractors that will never give him credit and I'll be defending him just like did Romo for 10 years. 2.5 years later, I'm still doing it.

Things aren't that simplistic, where you should say there is just one thing that would change someone mind. People should make up their minds based on a accumulation of evidence, versus just one thing. It's not just the Eye test again. But to say that people shouldn't form an opinion on what they observe is beyond ridiculous too, and that is not what the eye test means. The eye test is a general feeling you get from watching a game. When you discount people saying "ah it is just the eye test" you are also saying that they are not forming their opinion on any other pieces of evidence. Going by the eye test alone is just as ridiculous as just going by certain stats especially alone especially when people don't put them into context. Anyone who has been on this board last year know people were posting stats saying that Dak is greater than Tom Brady and Dak is greater than Rodgers, etc. That is a perfect example of people misusing stats and also devaluing those stats in the process to the skeptics on this board. And then someone brings up the W/L stat that Dak is 3-5 without Coop, and then all of the sudden the other side wants to take things into context and say, well its because his wideouts sucked, and the offensive line was average, etc, etc.. Then when Dak turns it all around now that Coop is on the team all of the sudden they tout his win loss ratio, and don't want to hear anything about him possibly being carried by some other players. Quarterbacks have been carried to win the super bowl before.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Stop smelling Romo's jock!!!

 

[America's Cowboy]

That's more reasonable. I'm willing to pay a lot more for Dak if he proves himself on a hard schedule. I just don't know why people like throwing caution to the wind and are willing to pay him as high as 32 million that I have seen mentioned.

Seriously, control your feelings and accept the fact that Jerry is going to pay Dak around $30 million per season.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Seriously, control your feelings and accept the fact that Jerry is going to pay Dak around $30 million per season.

So I should be happy everytime Jerry does a stupid move, gotcha. Be happy with any and all stupid moves Jerrah may make or find another team to like...

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Same usual suspects lol. I hope Dak gets 40 million just to make y’all mad lol.

 

[JayFord]

I mean we gotta pay the man

Who’s gonna play QB?

Bart Simpson?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Same usual suspects lol. I hope Dak gets 40 million just to make y’all mad lol.

So you really are not a cowboy's fan, right, considering a 40 million dollar deal would hurt the team.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I don't disagree with the comments about coaching and defense, but how does giving a big contract to QBs who can't overcome those shortcomings fix those problems?

That’s only your opinion. Reality paints a different picture. Organization doesn’t base decisions on a handful of misguided fans that can’t see how good dak is and will be.

 

[Johnny23]

If this happens, the Cowboys are irrelevant in Super Bowl discussions until Jerry starts eating dinner out of a straw.

His idiotic children will run the team further into the ground.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I mean we gotta pay the man

Who’s gonna play QB?

Bart Simpson?

These trolls never have an answer or solution. They just cry and wine while life moves forward in cowboy land. Being left behind as petty trolls.

 

[Vtwin]

The same way that every QB in the history of the NFL has gotten credit for them. Im sure the same that you have for qbs that you approve of.

Ridiculous but if you want to use that logic we'll have to agree Dak also gets credit for the losses.

Right?

 

[reddyuta]

His current play doesnt warrant that kind of money but what are our options without him? there is zero guarantee we can get his level of performance even if we picked a QB at 58.I only hope White has progressed a lot to atleast be a serviceable backup this season.

 

[CowboyRoy]

So I should be happy everytime Jerry does a stupid move, gotcha. Be happy with any and all stupid moves Jerrah may make or find another team to like...

It’s a great move. Completely obvious move.

 

[CowboyRoy]

His current play doesnt warrant that kind of money but what are our options without him? there is zero guarantee we can get his level of performance even if we picked a QB at 58.I only hope White has progressed a lot to atleast be a serviceable backup this season.

So making the pro bowl twice in his first 3 years doesn’t warrant proper pay?

Just admit it, you’ve been proven dead wrong. Move on.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Things aren't that simplistic, where you should say there is just one thing that would change someone mind. People should make up their minds based on a accumulation of evidence, versus just one thing. It's not just the Eye test again. But to say that people shouldn't form an opinion on what they observe is beyond ridiculous too, and that is not what the eye test means. The eye test is a general feeling you get from watching a game. When you discount people saying "ah it is just the eye test" you are also saying that they are not forming their opinion on any other pieces of evidence. Going by the eye test alone is just as ridiculous as just going by certain stats especially alone especially when people don't put them into context. Anyone who has been on this board last year know people were posting stats saying that Dak is greater than Tom Brady and Dak is greater than Rodgers, etc. That is a perfect example of people misusing stats and also devaluing those stats in the process to the skeptics on this board. And then someone brings up the W/L stat that Dak is 3-5 without Coop, and then all of the sudden the other side wants to take things into context and say, well its because his wideouts sucked, and the offensive line was average, etc, etc.. Then when Dak turns it all around now that Coop is on the team all of the sudden they tout his win loss ratio, and don't want to hear anything about him possibly being carried by some other players. Quarterbacks have been carried to win the super bowl before.

Lol...no one said dak is better than Brady. Now you trolls are making up lies. No shame.

The “eye test” is abundantly obvious that dak is the man.

Not anyone else’s fault you are blind to that.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

These trolls never have an answer or solution. They just cry and wine while life moves forward in cowboy land. Being left behind as petty trolls.

See there you guys go again, ignoring everything the other side says. For one, many of use haven't said don't pay Dak, but it is more lets don't rush to overpay him now and wait and see how he does in 2019 with a tougher schedule, against harder opponents. Many of us have said, that we don't mind paying Dak, if he looks good in 2019 and proves he deserves his payday. But this seems like the safer bet, since if he totally flops in 2019, then we can draft a qb in 2020. So as you can see, we do have a solution on the quarterback situation, which you act like we never mentioned before and say that we have no solutions.