Dak is not better than Foles

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Problem is, all 3 benefit from choosing a certain window so it's hard to do. Maybe on a per game basis.

For me Goff has clearly been the best because once you remove the unenviable situation of having to take over midseason for a bad team (a situation I'm fairly sure Prescott and Wentz would have also flopped in) then Goff has easily been the better of the three. An argument can be made that Dak and Wentz are equal or maybe even Dak is slightly ahead.
Wentz has started and played in 40 games with 4 comebacks, 4 game-winning drives.

Goff has 38 games starting all with
5 comebacks, 5 game-winning drives

Foles has played in 54 starting 44 of them with 8 comebacks, 10 game-winning drives

Dak has 48 games all starting with 8 comebacks, 14 game-winning drives
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm

Just a quick glance at career stats they seem comparable. I think if you apply the average per game stats for Wentz and Goff to get to Dak's 48 and applied them to career totals they may come out ahead in some categories. Can't say for sure because frankly I'm just not going to take the time to do it.
 

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Wentz has started and played in 40 games with 4 comebacks, 4 game-winning drives.

Goff has 38 games starting all with
5 comebacks, 5 game-winning drives

Foles has played in 54 starting 44 of them with 8 comebacks, 10 game-winning drives

Dak has 48 games all starting with 8 comebacks, 14 game-winning drives
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm

Just a quick glance at career stats they seem comparable. I think if you apply the average per game stats for Wentz and Goff to get to Dak's 48 and applied them to career totals they may come out ahead in some categories. Can't say for sure because frankly I'm just not going to take the time to do it.
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Before he is through in Dallas, Dak will break so many hearts, create a fans uprising and leave his admirers shaking their heads in terrible disbelief. Blimey! You want a bus driver who has trouble throwing down field, well you're going to get him for the next 5 .550 seasons.
 

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Wentz has started and played in 40 games with 4 comebacks, 4 game-winning drives.

Goff has 38 games starting all with
5 comebacks, 5 game-winning drives

Foles has played in 54 starting 44 of them with 8 comebacks, 10 game-winning drives

Dak has 48 games all starting with 8 comebacks, 14 game-winning drives
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm

Just a quick glance at career stats they seem comparable. I think if you apply the average per game stats for Wentz and Goff to get to Dak's 48 and applied them to career totals they may come out ahead in some categories. Can't say for sure because frankly I'm just not going to take the time to do it.
14 game winning drives. That's why I want to see more balance put the ball in his hands from the first quarter. But I know this defense is Young and they don't want them on the field that long they don't want to score this fast. I believe ball control is essential but we need balance and that's what we will lacking. Along with innovation
 

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Sod.
Before he is through in Dallas, Dak will break so many hearts, create a fans uprising and leave his admirers shaking their heads in terrible disbelief. Blimey! You want a bus driver who has trouble throwing down field, well you're going to get him for the next 5 .550 seasons.
Somebody else that doesn't know what they're talkin about. It's not his deep ball it's his intermediate ball that has the most issues. I love getting the last laugh. You suffer watching him I enjoy it
 

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Sometimes he is. Foles is up and down more than a street walker.
 

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Before he is through in Dallas, Dak will break so many hearts, create a fans uprising and leave his admirers shaking their heads in terrible disbelief. Blimey! You want a bus driver who has trouble throwing down field, well you're going to get him for the next 5 .550 seasons.
Are you sure you're not Nad .reincarnated. you sound like him from the old forum
 

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Problem is, all 3 benefit from choosing a certain window so it's hard to do. Maybe on a per game basis.

For me Goff has clearly been the best because once you remove the unenviable situation of having to take over midseason for a bad team (a situation I'm fairly sure Prescott and Wentz would have also flopped in) then Goff has easily been the better of the three. An argument can be made that Dak and Wentz are equal or maybe even Dak is slightly ahead.
On the other hand once teams figured out the coach was reading the D for and stopped broadcasting what they were doing pre-snap Goff looked inferior. Too bad our staff seemed oblivious to that fact.
 

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On the other hand once teams figured out the coach was reading the D for and stopped broadcasting what they were doing pre-snap Goff looked inferior. Too bad our staff seemed oblivious to that fact.
I believe the microphone turns off in the quarterback's helmet 15 seconds after the game clock starts
 

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I believe the microphone turns off in the quarterback's helmet 15 seconds after the game clock starts
It turns off with 15 seconds left. Teams realized McVay was reading the D and relaying it to Goff up until it was cut and stopped pre-snap movement to counter it. Somehow our staff failed to apply the same sense.
 

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I can't wait until Dak gets his contract. There will be so many tears that day. It's going to be fun to watch.

Tears of realization that we have overpaid for Check down Charlie and sealed the fate of this team for many years to come.....Don’t believe me?

Just check out the message boards from the rest our NFC rivals after we sign this chump to big bucks, they will be cheering the move and laughing they butts off.....it will happen.
 

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Foles gets $88 mill over 4 years (22 mill year). Thats your Dak contract.

"Dak is not better than Foles"

maybe, sort of, ... but do you realize Dak has thrown more TDs in his 3 years than Foles has in 8?

Foles' 2018 SEASON STATS
YDS 1,413
72.3%
TD 7
INT 4

Is Dak better than that? yes, but Foles wasn't behind an iffy OL, Wentz was not much better
funny we had a few OL issues too last year - Dak learned to play through it - they didn't

Foles is averaging 7 games played per season in his career ... what are the odds Nick plays all 64 reg season games on that new contract ?

whatever else can be said of Dak - he's 25yo and rather sturdy - toughness matters, he has never missed a start
 

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So what is Dak who hasn't come near to accomplishing that?

Dak doesn't get the luxury of playing 5-6 games a season with a dominating defense. the team he got the ring didn't want him....lol
 

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Great thread to read. The only thing I can take from it is that Foles is better than Marino because he won a superbowl. I think that's how it works.
 

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Somebody else that doesn't know what they're talkin about. It's not his deep ball it's his intermediate ball that has the most issues. I love getting the last laugh. You suffer watching him I enjoy it
Somebody else WHO doesn't know ... You will gain more gravitas and more traction if you learn proper English, rude boy.
And, yes, Dak's long-ball game is legendary. :rolleyes:
 
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