Tanks seeks 22.5, Cowboys offer 20

[Diehardblues]

You're placing too much importance on rotational players. And you're mistaken on the financial effect. Also, we're very early in the off season and you've hit the panic button already.
I urge you to read up on Irving and Gregory's contract negotiations.

Im on the verge of hitting the panic button if we don’t sign Lawrence.

I believe a DL by committee could have similar effects that our RB and WR by committee had which some of the same Homeristic fans were in support of. Lol

 

[Denim Chicken]

Sort of. He played injured and has delayed that process. It's a significant surgery, procedure and recovery that leaves questions unanswered until you "wait and see."
One solid season on top of that and that lowers the market rate. And we won't know if he will be productive until into the season.
Unless you're one of those fans who is cool with avoiding the surgery and dislocating it more and missing even more games.

He could have had surgery mid year and missed game, but he played through it so you could watch the Cowboys compete in the post season.

 

[Denim Chicken]

So for the record.

You'd be lucky to get a 1st for him which would be significantly less than what Mack got in a trade, but you are arguing here that we need to pay him almost like Mack because they are more similar than people want to admit?

How does that make sense?

Mack didn't need surgery for one. Timing matters. If Dallas would have tried to trade him at the same time as the Mack trade, maybe they could have had similar compensation.

 

[G2]

Im on the verge of hitting the panic button if we don’t sign Lawrence.

I believe a DL by committee could have similar effects that our RB and WR by committee had which some of the same Homeristic fans were in support of. Lol

So over paying Bryant and Romo worked out for us how? Had either or both player signed a team friendly contract (See New England) we would be better off.

 

[DRella]

So over paying Bryant and Romo worked out for us how? Had either or both player signed a team friendly contract (See New England) we would be better off.

Absolutely correct. I just don't get some people. We finally rid ourselves of overpaid players costing us dead money. And now they want to sign players up that will further impact our team down the line. I think I have shaken my head into a concussion this morning.

 

[JayFord]

Would our pass rush suffer without Lawrence yes, yes it would

Is Lawrence a top dollar de? Imo no he is not ...I’m sorry but over 20 million you need to impact the game for all four quarters at least 14 out of 16 games and make other teams gameplan for you

 

[G2]

He could have had surgery mid year and missed game, but he played through it so you could watch the Cowboys compete in the post season.

He should have had surgery the second the season was over. Period.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Absolutely correct. I just don't get some people. We finally rid ourselves of overpaid players costing us dead money. And now they want to sign players up that will further impact our team down the line. I think I have shaken my head into a concussion this morning.

Better to just cut bait with talent and pocket the money? You designed your offseason and lack of FA interest on planning to sign him. Not doing so now would be a double failure.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Based on what I’ve read he asked for $20 mil per year. That’s what has been offered. Now he wants $22.5 mil? Piss on him and his agent.

It's not just about AAV.

We met his AAV and then lowered the guarantees. So when they lowered the guarantees the agent increased the AAV.

So he didnt get what he asked for.

 

[Denim Chicken]

He should have had surgery the second the season was over. Period.

And what if the surgery jacked him up or they found a larger issue? What happens to his value then without a contract?

 

[Sydla]

Exactly. It's a biased opinion to suggest Lawrence gets paid like Mack. That's just simply silly.

He's not as good as Mack and he would command less in a trade but conversely he shouldn't be paid Mack money either.

$90MM guaranteed is a number Lawrence shouldn't sniff.

 

[Diehardblues]

So over paying Bryant and Romo worked out for us how? Had either or both player signed a team friendly contract (See New England) we would be better off.

It’s difficult to say. I can’t imagine what we’d of had without either of them at the time.

I’m not saying Lawrence is worth what he’s asking for. I’m arguing what will the effects be to our DL, defense and overall team without Him, Gregory and Irving?

Are we really prepared for that? Or is it going to be similar to some of our cost cutting decisions to premium talent it took another failing season followed by using a 1st round pick and a trade to overcome?

 

[DRella]

Better to just cut bait with talent and pocket the money? You designed your offseason and lack of FA interest on planning to sign him. Not doing so now would be a double failure.

Not when a player and agent go back on their word to the organization due to greed.

Very easily this can be turned around. Trade Lawrence for close to Mack return, trade for Quinn, sign Suh with saved money, draft accordingly. I don't think fans would see this a failure.

 

[stiletto]

I would lower my offer now. $20 million was too much.

 

[Sydla]

Mack didn't need surgery for one. Timing matters. If Dallas would have tried to trade him at the same time as the Mack trade, maybe they could have had similar compensation.

Mack was traded right before the start of the season. How that is a more ideal time to trade a guy than now doesn't make sense.

Lawrence wouldn't get what Mack did because Lawrence isn't viewed as good of a player. It's that simple. And why he shouldn't be paid like Mack either.

 

[DRella]

I would lower my offer now. $20 million was too much.

For sure. If he and agent want to go down on their word, organization should play hardball too!!!!

Take 20 million offer within next 24 hours or that is off the table. Re-table an offer for 18 million a season that he either accepts prior to deadline or he's traded.

 

[Cowfan75]

Tank isn't even worth 20 mil. We were offering a couple million too many.
I'm glad we aren't upping the offer...yet, but it's distressing to know we were ready to overpay him.

 

[stiletto]

For sure. If he and agent want to go down on their word, organization should play hardball too!!!!

Take 20 million offer within next 24 hours or that is off the table. Re-table an offer for 18 million a season that he either accepts prior to deadline or he's traded.

I'd do that but I'd be seeking a trade right now anyways as well...

 

[G2]

And what if the surgery jacked him up or they found a larger issue? What happens to his value then without a contract?

Exactly why it's not a good idea to wait.
Lmao, seriously, you're ok with that scenario? You're ok with signing him and him falling off the planet?

Team first. Not one player above the rest.

 

[Sydla]

And what if the surgery jacked him up or they found a larger issue? What happens to his value then without a contract?

So in your world, the Cowboys should hand him like $70MM guaranteed. And then if the surgery shows that he was far more injured than they realized, it's OK because Dallas can eat the money and get a player that might not be the same player post surgery?

The only people that would say that are Lawrence fans above the Cowboys.

In no world would a rational fan want a team to hand over oodles of guaranteed money to a guy who needs surgery and could be a worse player post surgery.