Dallas should explore Dak trade value

[Flamma]

The whole theory of a team carrying QB or he needs weapons around him is simple BS IMO. NO QB not named Brady can win this league w/o combination of weapons, coaching or great defense. I challenge any fan to show a winning Super Bowl QB that didn't have at least 2 of these combinations. Example.....look no further than the final four teams NFL championship games.

That's true, but that's not the only question. Do the Saints get that far without Drew Brees? Do the Chiefs get there with Alex Smith? Yeah you need a really good team to get to or win the Super Bowl. But how good that team needs to be has some to do with the QB.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

No. Just no.

You don't trade a QB that has been to two Pro Bowls in his first 3 seasons, and has the 2nd most wins in the NFL over that time period. I'm among those who doubt Dak's ability. But the reality is that the Cowboys would be foolish to trade Dak. They've built a team with a good young corps of players, and would be wasting that talent by starting over with a new QB. At this point, the Cowboys have to be committed to Dak for at least the next 3 seasons while the core of the team is intact. The best that those of us who doubt Dak can do is hope we are wrong, and that Dak dramatically improves as a passer.

probowls...did you say probowls....no let me get it straight...you said probowls....really....you know he only got to go to this last one because few others couldn't go.....so not sure how you want to digest that one

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Brilliant idea from our moron sector of the fan base....i still remember last year after the 2017 season the moron fan voice shouted "trade dak and sign cousins, bridewater, or fitzpatrick". Imagine how great that would have worked out. Whose it gonna be this year???? Mariota??? Allen??? Maybe Eli because he sets his feet and throws a pretty spiral?

not a lot of difference between those QBs....

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Where did i say that at all.......QBs touch the ball more than any other player. They get the most credit for the wins and most of the blame with losses. Dak took over a team tray was 4-12 and hasn't had a losing season ever so since you want to play that game, Dak deserves more credit for those wins then any player

The fact that you type that out and think it makes sense is embarrassing. The funniest thing about the "QBs touch the ball more than any other player" is that they literally HAVE to touch the ball because of the way the game is played... the center snaps the ball to the QB, duh. Dak touches the ball... and then he hands it off or throws a 5 yard pass on 3rd and 10 to a better, more important player.

Your posts become more vapid by the day...

 

[Flamma]

Not sure if this is trolling. If so, good job. If not why would a team primed for a deep playoff run trade their starting QB? Has a team ever done that? With a nearly 3-1 TD to INT ratio, a top YPA, and a winning record as a QB what has Dak done to deserve being traded? Has this coaching staff helped this guy with the terrible offensive scheme?

You Dak bashers are idiotic. You really are.

I've taken Dak Bash 101 and even I think that would be ridiculous and for obvious reasons including what you've said. The bold says it all. We don't have a replacement and we're not winning it all with a rookie. Dallas would be throwing away the season.

 

[Stash]

Couple points here and this just my take.....

The whole theory of a team carrying QB or he needs weapons around him is simple BS IMO. NO QB not named Brady can win this league w/o combination of weapons, coaching or great defense. I challenge any fan to show a winning Super Bowl QB that didn't have at least 2 of these combinations. Example.....look no further than the final four teams NFL championship games.

Ram....loaded with talent on both side of the ball
Saints...see Rams and Peyton
Chiefs ....Ford, Houston, Hunt, Hill, and Reid
Pats.......Brady and Belichick says it all

This reads like you wanting to find a conclusion you're looking for.

Wanna hear something funny, over the last 3 years the majority, if not most fans have wanted both Garrett and Linehan fired but the Cowboys have won anyway, even making the playoffs 2 out 3 years. Who gets credit for that? (Bad coach AND QB) Either Dak is pretty darn good ( winning with TWO bad coaches ), Garrett and Linehan were not as bad as some fans wanted you to believe, or many fans are misguided by personal emotions/agendas coz you can't have it both ways. Hell, bad QB with bad coaches yet you still winning AND making the playoffs. How many fans we never hear say one word about the top talent most so-called elite QBs are surrounded with but Dak can't win w/o it. Again this is just my take, but I care about one thing WINNING. As long as we're doing that, someone (coaches, players, FO ) is doing there job. We as fans may not like the way it's being done or sexy enough but it's getting done.

Here's something else "funny", Prescott has had the NFL's leading rusher for two of those years. And an improving and top defense in 2018. And that time he didn't have that running back in 2017? He and the team were terrible. Setting franchise records for the fewest points scored.

With regard to "doubting Dak would improve"......it's doubting you're going to see that much improvement in a year ( timeline of waiting to extend ). It's why I said we could see a slight bump in his stats from 2018 -2019.

Then by your own admission, you don't pay this guy top quarterback money. Because you're "doubting you're going to see that much improvement".

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Fair point. But let's not forget the people who invested that 4th only did so after trying to trade up for Paxton Lynch then Connor Cook earlier in that draft.

How much confidence do we have they'll select a better one?

Looking at their 1st round performance I think they deserve some benefit of a doubt.

Also I am sure Paxton and Connor look better in our offense than they did in their careers to date. Dak walked into the best QB situation for a rookie QB in league history.

 

[Brax]

Stephen thinks otherwise.

Yes he and Jerry are the only ones who count when all is said and done but it doesn't make it so, a lot of remorse because of them also.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

 

[Irvin88_4life]

All of those QBs have Super Bowl rings. Like I said, Dak is nowhere near those QBs

........wait for it........because Dak has only 3 years in the league. What was Peyton Manning, Rodgers Brees or most any of the others stats their first 3 years.......hint not a Superbowl champ. Again trying to compare a finished career or almost finished career to a 3 year player, yep makes sense.

 

[Nightman]

Lol @ comparing Dak to any of those QBs. All HOFers on that list

Dak belongs with the likes of Cousins, Dalton, Cam Newton, and Stafford.

None of them made the playoffs last season...

But Dak did for the 2nd time in his first 3 years

Go away

 

[Nightman]

Why? Because it's an undeniable fact and an "inconvenient truth"?



Go back to the days when those quarterbacks "got paid". Were they in fact taking up 17% of the team's total cap like guys like Rodgers are set to?



Sure, because we're not paying any of the other several guys in line for deals.

you have a lame excuse for everything

don't you ever get bored being scared

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Looking at their 1st round performance I think they deserve some benefit of a doubt.

Also I am sure Paxton and Connor look better in our offense than they did in their careers to date. Dak walked into the best QB situation for a rookie QB in league history.

That's completely false. Stop with this Dak walked the best QB situation in league history. That team Dak went to was 4-12 the previous year and Mahomes had a bunch better offense than Dak has had. Not saying Dak is better but Mahomes walked into a top offense, Dak walked into a 4-12 team.


Before you try and run around the bushes i know Mahomes wasnt a rookie but a guy that sat his first season before giving the team also is in a better situation.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

 

[InTheZone]

Where did i say that at all.......QBs touch the ball more than any other player. They get the most credit for the wins and most of the blame with losses. Dak took over a team tray was 4-12 and hasn't had a losing season ever so since you want to play that game, Dak deserves more credit for those wins then any player

Your entire post was littered with that. Why are you ignoring that the pass game has gotten steadily worse every season with Dak? He takes another step back and we will be ranked last. But he gets the credit for helping the team win? Yeah I cannot understand that.

 

[Stash]

you have a lame excuse for everything

don't you ever get bored being scared

It's funny that you have to refer to irrefutable facts as a "lame excuse."

And now it's "scared"?

How about a mature discussion and debate without having to try to be dismissive and insulting?

Take the high road.

 

[Nightman]

Their actions show otherwise. Even the Lawrence deal took the threat of delayed surgery before it got done.

And I also see none of the other teams with quarterbacks in the same draft class rushing to sign new deals for Goff or Wentz.

who said they aren't...you?????

 

[Stash]

who said they aren't...you?????

Me and the fact that none of them have signed new deals.

Those two things.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Go get Russell