Marinelli needs to go!

[Hadenough]

Just check out this film. Tune out them Cowboys homer hosts talking...making all kinds of excuses. Better yet, listen to them struggling to even believe their own words. Unbelievable.

Just watch some tape and see how bad of a pick and reach it was for the Cowboys to draft DT Trysten Hill, 6'3", 308 lbs. with that 2nd round #58 overall pick.... all while both Safeties Juan Thornhill and Nasir Adderley were still there waiting to be picked. Crazy.



Would have been better to pick up one of them Safeties in the 2nd round, then either use their 3rd or one of their two 4th round picks on a DT, which there are still plenty of to pick from.

This is clearly a Marinelli move. Another Taco persuasion by Marinelli in that Cowboys Draft Room. Another several rounds "over reach" for a player that should have been taken several rounds later just like Taco.

If this Trysten Hill DT doesn't show up this first year and proves he was worth "over reaching" for in the 2nd round, Marinelli needs to go!

AC,
I actually think we needed to add a DT but I would of been fine if they drafted a safety. Yesss Marinelli needs to go! Thats two playoff games now his defense has come out unprepared. Its reached a point where this defense is getting pretty stacked with players and there will be no more excuses.
Marinelli plays it safe too much. I would rather see more aggressive play calling with more LB blitzes and CB blitzes. he keeps things simple and doesnt disguise them. Relies too much on his linemen in key situations when they need to a get after the QB.

 

[America's Cowboy]

AC,
I actually think we needed to add a DT but I would of been fine if they drafted a safety. Yesss Marinelli needs to go! Thats two playoff games now his defense has come out unprepared. Its reached a point where this defense is getting pretty stacked with players and there will be no more excuses.
Marinelli plays it safe too much. I would rather see more aggressive play calling with more LB blitzes and CB blitzes. he keeps things simple and doesnt disguise them. Relies too much on his linemen in key situations when they need to a get after the QB.

Agreed, bro. Totally agree.

Fyi, I like the player, DT Trysten Hill. I just didn't like taking him in the 2nd while passing up on Safety Juan Thornhill. We need a stud Safety bad. Real bad.

Then again, reaching for Trysten Hill in the 2nd, it allowed the Cowboys to pick up super talented Center/Guard/Tackle Connor McGovern. So it looks like it worked out. Just hope Trysten Hill contributes this year, not the next. Tired of passing up players in the 1st or 2nd who can start right away over players that are over reached and need time (years) and lots of coaching up.

 

[Hadenough]

Agreed, bro. Totally agree.

Fyi, I like the player, DT Trysten Hill. I just didn't like taking him in the 2nd while passing up on Safety Juan Thornhill. We need a stud Safety bad. Real bad.

Then again, reaching for Trysten Hill in the 2nd, it allowed the Cowboys to pick up super talented Center/Guard/Tackle Connor McGovern. So it looks like it worked out. Just hope Trysten Hill contributes this year, not the next. Tired of passing up players in the 1st or 2nd who can start right away over players that are over reached and need time (years) and lots of coaching up.

I remember when Dallas traded down and selected Frederick. I think it was Sheldon Richardson was on the board and i was so pissed but it worked out for the best. McClay has done a pretty good job so far and the Cowboys really wanted this kid bad like gold fell into their lap so I guess we will see. That little hottie Jane Slater was reporting this before the draft.

 

[drawandstrike]

Yes yes it's quite obvious at this point Marinelli is what's holding the Cowboy's defensive unit from being top 10 in the league.

Oh wait....

 

[America's Cowboy]

I remember when Dallas traded down and selected Frederick. I think it was Sheldon Richardson was on the board and i was so pissed but it worked out for the best. McClay has done a pretty good job so far and the Cowboys really wanted this kid bad like gold fell into their lap so I guess we will see. That little hottie Jane Slater was reporting this before the draft.

Ooooh, Jane Slater!!!!! ♡

Thinking of her name makes me think of this oldie but goodie rock song...

 

[America's Cowboy]

Yes yes it's quite obvious at this point Marinelli is what's holding the Cowboy's defensive unit from being top 10 in the league.

Oh wait....

They dominated the Rams offense and shut it down.

Oh wait...

Same with the Colts...

Golden.

 

[p_tubbs]

Just check out this film. Tune out them Cowboys homer hosts talking...making all kinds of excuses. Better yet, listen to them struggling to even believe their own words. Unbelievable.

Just watch some tape and see how bad of a pick and reach it was for the Cowboys to draft DT Trysten Hill, 6'3", 308 lbs. with that 2nd round #58 overall pick.... all while both Safeties Juan Thornhill and Nasir Adderley were still there waiting to be picked. Crazy.



Would have been better to pick up one of them Safeties in the 2nd round, then either use their 3rd or one of their two 4th round picks on a DT, which there are still plenty of to pick from.

This is clearly a Marinelli move. Another Taco persuasion by Marinelli in that Cowboys Draft Room. Another several rounds "over reach" for a player that should have been taken several rounds later just like Taco.

If this Trysten Hill DT doesn't show up this first year and proves he was worth "over reaching" for in the 2nd round, Marinelli needs to go!

SMDH, you guys are unbelievable. As if you actually know how to spot talent. I will trust the guy who actually does this for a living.

 

[cern]

Is marinelli capable of change??? Can he not see his scheme just does not get enough pressure on the qb, particularly on 3rd and long?? Is the dog just too old to learn new tricks?? It would seem so.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Is marinelli capable of change??? Can he not see his scheme just does not get enough pressure on the qb, particularly on 3rd and long?? Is the dog just too old to learn new tricks?? It would seem so.

What are you talking about? Is it your view that the solution to getting 'enough pressure on the QB, particularly on 3rd and long' is to take a S ahead of a potential impact 3-tech?

 

[Macnalty]

Just check out this film. Tune out them Cowboys homer hosts talking...making all kinds of excuses. Better yet, listen to them struggling to even believe their own words. Unbelievable.

Just watch some tape and see how bad of a pick and reach it was for the Cowboys to draft DT Trysten Hill, 6'3", 308 lbs. with that 2nd round #58 overall pick.... all while both Safeties Juan Thornhill and Nasir Adderley were still there waiting to be picked. Crazy.



Would have been better to pick up one of them Safeties in the 2nd round, then either use their 3rd or one of their two 4th round picks on a DT, which there are still plenty of to pick from.

This is clearly a Marinelli move. Another Taco persuasion by Marinelli in that Cowboys Draft Room. Another several rounds "over reach" for a player that should have been taken several rounds later just like Taco.

If this Trysten Hill DT doesn't show up this first year and proves he was worth "over reaching" for in the 2nd round, Marinelli needs to go!

God I hope the cowboys Front office had more than this film to make a decision, youtube scouts remember how you get your information and consider the source. In Rod and McClay I trust, youtube no so much.

 

[cern]

What are you talking about? Is it your view that the solution to getting 'enough pressure on the QB, particularly on 3rd and long' is to take a S ahead of a potential impact 3-tech?

I said nothing of the sort. Stunts, blitzes, mismatches are the way to get more pressure. Marinelli's schemes are predictable. His belief tackles aren't that important, particularly the 3 tech are one of his major shortcomings. I loved the hill pick. I'll take a good 3 tech tackle over a safety any day. Not sure where you're coming from.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

I said nothing of the sort. Stunts, blitzes, mismatches are the way to get more pressure. Marinelli's schemes are predictable. His belief tackles aren't that important, particularly the 3 tech are one of his major shortcomings. I loved the hill pick. I'll take a good 3 tech tackle over a safety any day. Not sure where you're coming from.

Marinelli would probably be the first to tell you (and, frankly, it's widely known) that the 3-tech position is probably the most important in his scheme. He doesn't value big fatties at the 1-tech, guys like Snacks Harrison, but his best defences have always had dominant 3-techs, from Warren Sapp to Tommie Harris and Henry Melton. He values that kind of penetrating, disruptive 3-tech more than anything. Not sure where you're coming from. Particularly as the purpose of this thread is to question the team for taking such a 3-tech over all the safeties that were available.

 

[cern]

Marinelli would probably be the first to tell you (and, frankly, it's widely known) that the 3-tech position is probably the most important in his scheme. He doesn't value big fatties at the 1-tech, guys like Snacks Harrison, but his best defences have always had dominant 3-techs, from Warren Sapp to Tommie Harris and Henry Melton. He values that kind of penetrating, disruptive 3-tech more than anything. Not sure where you're coming from. Particularly as the purpose of this thread is to question the team for taking such a 3-tech over all the safeties that were available.

I only care what he does here. Neither he nor Monty accomplished anything here. The thread was about whether he should go. I vote yes.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

I only care what he does here. Neither he nor Monty accomplished anything here. The thread was about whether he should go. I vote yes.

The thread was about whether he should go because the Cowboys drafted a 3-tech over a bunch of safeties (most notably, Juan Thornhill) some people wanted. But your vote (for seemingly disconnected reasons, which is what prompted me to ask what you were on about) is noted.

 

[Jake]

I'm pretty sure one of you guys is my ex-wife. It's just hard to narrow it down.

 

[cern]

I'm pretty sure one of you guys is my ex-wife. It's just hard to narrow it down.
So does she want marinelli gone or not?

 

[CowboyRoy]

You can fill a bus with all the can't miss safeties the Cowboys passed on in recent years who disappear in the NFL.

Haha Cinton Dix, 21st pick, on his third team now.
Calvin Pryor, 18th pick, on his third team now. Jimmy Ward, 30th pick, 2 career picks, 2ints. Landon Collins, great rookie year, just like Roy Williams, flash in the pan, on to his next team.

I'll take a potential Dline prospect all day over a "can't miss" safety.

So you are saying the Cowboys would screw up the safety pick? But your confident that they are going to nail the DT pick?

Oh yah, because there have been so many great DT picks by the Cowboys in the Marinelli era.

Most quality DT's are gone by the end of the second round. Safety is a position you can get starting caliber players into the 2nd. Just sayin.

 

[DuncanIso]

The thread was about whether he should go because the Cowboys drafted a 3-tech over a bunch of safeties (most notably, Juan Thornhill) some people wanted. But your vote (for seemingly disconnected reasons, which is what prompted me to ask what you were on about) is noted.

I think people are tired of watching our DC [Marinelli] wreck playoff games.

And we are waiting it out, b/c at some point Jerry is going to get tired of it too.

BTW, how bad do you have to mess up your job before you are fired? Who's idea was it to play 4-2-5 nick package against a power running game?

It's amazing he still has a job, especially with Richard ready to take over.

 

[foofighters]

Just check out this film. Tune out them Cowboys homer hosts talking...making all kinds of excuses. Better yet, listen to them struggling to even believe their own words. Unbelievable.

Just watch some tape and see how bad of a pick and reach it was for the Cowboys to draft DT Trysten Hill, 6'3", 308 lbs. with that 2nd round #58 overall pick.... all while both Safeties Juan Thornhill and Nasir Adderley were still there waiting to be picked. Crazy.



Would have been better to pick up one of them Safeties in the 2nd round, then either use their 3rd or one of their two 4th round picks on a DT, which there are still plenty of to pick from.

This is clearly a Marinelli move. Another Taco persuasion by Marinelli in that Cowboys Draft Room. Another several rounds "over reach" for a player that should have been taken several rounds later just like Taco.

If this Trysten Hill DT doesn't show up this first year and proves he was worth "over reaching" for in the 2nd round, Marinelli needs to go!

I would like to know how you clearly know that this is a Marinelli move. Even though you have claimed for years (even on the old board) and dealt in absolute truths, I'd like to know. I find it interesting that now is when you decide you are done with him. I've been done with him for years and, in fact, I have been done with our HC, OC and DC for quite a while now. Our old OC is gone so just two left. However, my reasons are long and have been drawn out on this board. So why now? and what's your proof that this is his pick?

 

[drawandstrike]

They dominated the Rams offense and shut it down.

Oh wait...

Same with the Colts...

Golden.

Absolutely, the Cowboys aren't improving on Defense at all under Marinelli. Why, just look at how they didn't have a top ten defense in the league last year, something that allowed them to win over half the games they won when the offense struggled.

It should be obvious to anybody with real football acumen that Marinelli is the only reason this unit isn't #1 in the league last year.